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Microsoft on Friday released its Office Mobile 365 app for Apple's iPhone, allowing users with subscriptions to the productivity suite to access Word, Excel and PowerPoint documents on the go.

Office Mobile


With Microsoft's
Office Mobile, users can view documents stored in Microsoft's SkyDrive, SkyDrive Pro or SharePoint, as well as read and edit Office docs sent as email attachments. Additionally, owners of Windows machines can remotely access documents that were recently viewed on a desktop client.

Another PC-only feature is "Resume Reading," which allows Word documents opened from SkyDrive or SkyDrive Pro to automatically jump to where users left off on their Windows computer or tablet.

Microsoft says documents are optimized before being viewed on the iPhone, while support for charts, animations, SmartArt Graphics and shapes comes built-in. Also available is an in-app Slide Navigator in PowerPoint and a function to help with presentation practice.

From the release notes:

Make quick edits and share:
* Edit - You can make quick edits to Word, Excel and PowerPoint documents.
* Documents Remain Intact - Formatting and content remain intact when you edit Word, Excel, or PowerPoint documents on your phone.
* Edit While Offline - Your device doesn?t have to be continuously connected to the network to work on an Office document that is stored online. You can view and edit recently used documents even while you?re offline. Your changes will be saved online when your device reconnects to the network or to Wi-Fi.
* Create ? You can create new Word and Excel documents on your phone.
* Comments - You can review comments that have been made in Word and Excel documents on your phone and add your own comments.
* Share - When you?re done with your edits or comments, simply send the document in email or save it to SkyDrive or SharePoint.


Office Mobile comes in at 58MB and is available from the App Store as a free companion app for existing Office 365 subscribers. Microsoft Office 2013 for PC is required for recent document and resume reading.
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Can I create public documents on iCould's iWork, so that I can share them with my family or friends? 


Edited by Chandra69 - 6/14/13 at 4:06am
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I probably would have bought this if it was available on iPad, in the UK and not tied to an Office 365 subscription.


Oh well.

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Not available in the Norwegian app store yet
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post #5 of 49
Well, they did say they didn't have Office for iPad...
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Not in the Dutch store either. And iPhone only is a truly despicable attempt at getting Office Everywhere. Besides, once you've worked on a document the changes have to be saved and shared through email or their Sky Stuff. Thusly creating a new document. How typical, these try outs coming from MS. Oh well, at least they optimised it for the 5, so one star for that.
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post #7 of 49
iPhone only is a teaser. Not available in Canadian store either, seems to be US only for now.
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Subscription only is one way to get around paying any store cut. 

 

Will be interesting to see how long before it appears on an iPad given the push of Office as a USP on a Surface tablet.  I'd say a while or never.

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Someone is obviously scared.

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Microsoft's planting the seeds of a contingency plan, in case Surface and other Windows hardware sales keeps slowing. I'd love to see more collaboration between Apple & Microsoft
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Can I create public documents on iCould's iWork, so that I can share them with my family or friends? 

 

Not currently. There are no collaboration, multi-user editing, or tracked changes options. It's essentially the same experience you'd have using their iPad apps.

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post #12 of 49
Heh. Meh. Too little, too late. I'm successfully weened off of Office. I'd like to keep my iPhone and Mac Microsoft-free.

But I'm sure someone will want this turd.

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post #13 of 49

Interesting. So I have an Office 365 account (company account). I logged in and created a new WORD document. When I tried to save that "in the cloud" (which is SkyDrive for MS) it asks me again for my microsoft account and wouldn't even recognize my log-in and PW.

 

Does that mean that I have to sign up for SkyDrive individually?

 

I will always have critism for Apple when it comes to internet services. But at Apple my subscription for an Office service would include online storage and would NOT require me to sign up for that extra.

 

Apart from that: The WORD editor is a joke. Seriously!!!!

Font size, 3 colors, 3 markers, bold, underline.... that's all there is.

 

Having said that, I'm a fan of Win8 - graphically .... So I like how this app LOOKS (not works!).

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I'm going to hold out for the iWatch version.
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post #15 of 49
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Someone is obviously scared.

Exactly. This is a response to iWork for iCloud which was demoed earlier in the week. Honestly that must have sent shivers down their spines. Sorry Microsoft, I can barely stand using the version of office work gave me for free. I'm sure as hell not paying you a subscription fee.

They are on the precipice. Windows is turgid compared to OS X. If anyone takes enough market share from Office to make it no longer a defacto standard the rest of the dominoes will fall, spectacularly.
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M$, you are PATHETIC!
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Err, I have Pages, which as a bonus integrates with Text-To-Speech. What the hell would I want a crippled subscription-only bit of bloatware for? 

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Obviously the iWork in the cloud reveal made MS crap their pants. The great reviews the beta is getting probably made them cry. I'll bet iWork in the cloud will be free as well instead of this stupid subscription junk.

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post #19 of 49
Pretty interesting that this comes out right after apple announces iwork for icloud.
EDU office 365 pricing is pretty good, $74 for 4 years. gives you access to Office for pc/mac, office 365 mobile apps and office on demand (streams office to a pc/mac without it)+ 27gb of skydrive space.
No real web version though. Also the iphone app has pretty limiting editing abilities. But documents look exactly like do in office on the computer & editing and saving them will not screw them up.
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Err, I have Pages, which as a bonus integrates with Text-To-Speech. What the hell would I want a crippled subscription-only bit of bloatware for? 

 

You don't but Apple is taking over the enterprise in mobile, and like it or not, Office is still king in the enterprise on Mac and PC.  You're probably not the target market.

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No thanks...don't want anything MS in my life or on my devices and certainly don't like subscription services that go into my account and take money out!

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I have had a theory Microsoft has been sitting on this for a while.  All the rumors that Office for iPad and iPhone existed, I just think Microsoft didn't want to release it.  Releasing Office for iPhone is close to admitting defeat.  They had to hope that Office being exclusive to Windows Phone and Surface would draw people from iPhone and the iPad.  Didn't work.  Then, Apple announced its cloud based office suite, and that was it.  Microsoft had to act.

 

Microsoft is struggling on mobile, losing ground with Windows 8, Xbox One is in trouble, so the only thing Microsoft has going for it is enterprise and business software.  They can't afford to give Apple and others an obvious opening any longer.

 

It's pretty smart, actually.  I've always thought Microsoft's going to try and stay and factor in the consumer market and are willing to take big risks there, but in the back of their minds, they see themselves and a business/enterprise company now.  

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No real web version though. Also the iphone app has pretty limiting editing abilities. But documents look exactly like do in office on the computer & editing and saving them will not screw them up.

Note that any Skydrive account can edit a Word document through the web for free.  Excel too.  It's far from full featured, but enables basic editing the same as all these web editors.  http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/web-apps/

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Exactly. This is a response to iWork for iCloud which was demoed earlier in the week. Honestly that must have sent shivers down their spines. Sorry Microsoft, I can barely stand using the version of office work gave me for free. I'm sure as hell not paying you a subscription fee.

They are on the precipice. Windows is turgid compared to OS X. If anyone takes enough market share from Office to make it no longer a defacto standard the rest of the dominoes will fall, spectacularly.

 

Yeah, it's pretty obvious that this was rushed out the door as an "answer" to iWork.  They also had to hold back the iPad version so they could still run those awful adverts that tell us how the iPad doesn't have Office but some shitty DELL tablet does.  

 

Interestingly, I just went and read four or five "hands on" articles about the software and everyone is climbing all over themselves to give it a good review even though it's clearly buggy as hell and very severely limited.  BGR is especially egregious in that regard but then they always have their hyper-aggressive heads stuck up some corporate ass at that site.  

 

Also just to be annoying myself I have to say "called it!" (in regards Office not really "coming to iOS" but instead a link to Office 360 coming to iOS).  1smile.gif

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The subscription based model ruins it for many. I don't want to pay for an application over and over again just to use it. iWork with iCloud is a way better deal and I don't have to pay Microsofts extortion money to keep using it. It works on Mac, Windows, and iPad and iPhone and iPod Touch. Microsoft is in trouble with there GREEDY subscription crap. They want to extort the user like they do with there corporate licensing fees every year. It's easy money cause they don't have to do a thing except collect there money.
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Someone is obviously scared.

I agree. I suspect Microsoft has had Windows for iOS ready for some time (including a version for iPad) but was waiting until the market pressures forced them to announce the product.
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I'm of 2 minds on this...  
1) Microsoft has to be present on the most popular systems, if for nothing else to ease migration 'back' to a Windows/Surface/Phone platform.   The obvious delay was that somewhere in their heads, the felt that 'just a couple months more' and WinPhone and Surface and Win8 would be 'most popular'  and they wouldn't need to release it.   The fact they are selling Office on Surface as a differentiator  vs iPad and releasing this to iPhone really tells me that they've given up on WinPhone, and are still in a distortion about Surface.
 
2) Exchange and Office as an App/webApp is the roadmap.  Microsoft is selling their exchange cloud solution purely on that You won't be able to buy Outlook as an .exe in 7 years, unless your an existing corp client.   Pushing an iPhone version out gives them a testbed for office, for low power users (you're not going to be creating much on a iPhone, just tweaking/updating), and gain a experience prior to releasing a general solution for Android, and iPad (inevitable. see #1)
 
iWork (and Google Apps) show that for the masses, plinking notes and recipes and filling in squares on a spreadsheet can be done pretty well now with HTML5.  Power users will still need fully compiled local applications, but I think you'll see the storage model of the web evolve to a 'write through' concept.  Shared documents will become fully journalled objects, so as changes come in, your changes and their changes are merged just like a distributed database.
 
Microsoft is realizing that capitated revenue will need to move to Azure, owning the rights management of the app access and data access for your personal and professional lives.   Eventually, All AD will be a forest of forests eminating from Redmond.   The question is, will people put the Credit Card numbers in like they do for iTMS/iCloud?   If they don't, Microsoft is doomed to be IBM... a managed service for corporations, and a army of overpriced consultants who are one quarter from being RIFfed at the whims of Armonk.
post #28 of 49

I think this is a huge win for Apple in enterprise sales. The only thing that can top this is MS Office for iPad.

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Microsoft is a devices and services company now. What that means is, eventually, you need to be on every major platform. This is the beginning of that. Granted, they'd rather you buy a Surface to run Office on, but they really need to support all the platforms. There's a lot of heterogeneity out there. People aren't necessarily completely inside one ecosystem. (For example, they may be using a PC with an iPhone or a Mac with an Android phone.)  Office needs to be on all devices to provide a good value in terms of being a service.

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So much for Microsoft's latest "iOS Doesn't do Office" commercial.

Now that subscription based software is the red-headed lepper in the room, I hope MS & Adobe suffer the same fate giving way for better suites (like iWork) to shine. 1smile.gif
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The subscription based model ruins it for many. I don't want to pay for an application over and over again just to use it. iWork with iCloud is a way better deal and I don't have to pay Microsofts extortion money to keep using it. It works on Mac, Windows, and iPad and iPhone and iPod Touch. 

 

I am sure Microsoft would gladly take your money, but the app is probably directed at people that already have the subscription.  Many have subscriptions that they're work pays for.

 

 

 

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Microsoft is in trouble with there GREEDY subscription crap. They want to extort the user like they do with there corporate licensing fees every year. It's easy money cause they don't have to do a thing except collect there money.

 

You obviously do not have to deal with software licensing fees often.  For Enterprise software, all things relative, an Office license is a steal.  In fact, the subscription model is cheaper than the traditional licensing model.  The total price for one year of Office365 is less than you would pay for a single license of Office.  Subscriptions are usually about charging less but having a more consistent stream of payments and a higher volume of payments (most will pay $12 / month faster than they will drop $300).  

 

This is an interesting article:

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57586530-92/survey-creative-suite-users-loathe-adobes-subscriptions/

 

What it basically says that users of Adobe's products, by and large, don't like the switch to subscriptions.  Oddly enough though, those that have switched are very satisfied and plan to renew.  I think the biggest thing subscription models have going against them is they are new and unfamiliar, but subscription based software has been far more common in the enterprise, so businesses are more quick to embrace it than consumers, and business is where Office is popular.  

 

As such, I don't really see Microsoft being in much trouble here, especially since Microsoft still sells licenses, unlike Adobe.  So businesses don't want a subscription, they can still get Office the same way they always have.  Plus, I can see certain segments, like colleges and schools, preferring Office365 because they can work out deals so every student has access copy of Office.

 

As for you as an individual, you have far cheaper options than Office365, so use them, but I don't really think Microsoft expect consumers to jump on board.  They're mostly after businesses and students.


Edited by rednival - 6/14/13 at 9:44am
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So much for Microsoft's latest "iOS Doesn't do Office" commercial.

Now that subscription based software is the red-headed lepper in the room, I hope MS & Adobe suffer the same fate giving way for better suites (like iWork) to shine. 1smile.gif


I kind of like Adobe's subscriptions.  I need Photoshop from time to time, but not enough to justify the price tag.  So $20 for access here and there is sufficient, but ditching licenses altogether was a bad move.

 

Keep in mind, Microsoft still sells Office the way they always have.  Office365 is just a new option.  They may go the way of Adobe in the near future, but so far they have not.

 

Everyone keeps talking like Office365 is the only way to get Office now, and that's completely false.  I am not so much defending Microsoft as I am defending accuracy.

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Subscription only is one way to get around paying any store cut. 

 

Will be interesting to see how long before it appears on an iPad given the push of Office as a USP on a Surface tablet.  I'd say a while or never.

Actually, as far as I know Apple doesn't allow publishers to get around paying the 30% cut by using external subscriptions systems.

 

http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/12/11/apple-and-microsoft-at-odds-over-skydrive-app-subscription-fees

 

Presumably Microsoft got a special deal from Apple.

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Office is Microsoft's last island. They've already sunk their other island with the Xbox One. Windows 8 is at the bottom of the Marianas Trench. Windows RT is burning up in the earth's core. Balmer is surfing like an ape on a surfboard having a great old time not realizing the wave will cover his last island.

 

I simply cannot fathom how far Microsoft has fallen since Balmer has taken charge. The board of directors must be under lock-down to not get rid of this buffoon. At least I respected Bill.

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You don't but Apple is taking over the enterprise in mobile, and like it or not, Office is still king in the enterprise on Mac and PC.  You're probably not the target market.

 

Funny you should mention that - I use Pages in, well, and enterprise environment. Then again, like most folks in an office environment, I don't really live/breathe office-type apps (most of my time is spent in SSH if that helps). 

 

The only target demographic I could see for this new app is maybe the exec who wants to edit the occasional PowerPoint or Excel bit at the last minute. Anyone else will need a keyboard/mouse, or they can use one of a zillion other apps to do the same thing... here's six of them off the top of Google: http://teachmeios.com/6-ios-apps-to-edit-ms-office-documents-word-excel-and-powerpoint/

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The only target demographic I could see for this new app is maybe the exec who wants to edit the occasional PowerPoint or Excel bit at the last minute. Anyone else will need a keyboard/mouse, or they can use one of a zillion other apps to do the same thing... here's six of them off the top of Google: http://teachmeios.com/6-ios-apps-to-edit-ms-office-documents-word-excel-and-powerpoint/

 

You'll notice I didn't defend the iOS version.  If someones already has a Office365 account at work, school, or otherwise, they might use this.  Then again, Pages has been around to edit Word documents for awhile, so if you REALLY needed that capability on the iPhone or iPad, chances are you've already purchased an app for it or migrated to iWork.

 

 

 

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Funny you should mention that - I use Pages in, well, and enterprise environment. Then again, like most folks in an office environment, I don't really live/breathe office-type apps (most of my time is spent in SSH if that helps). 

 

I'm glad Pages does what you need, but unfortunately, I ran out of options.  The main reason I make use of Office is because the files sent to me are nearly always in MS Office format.  I really wanted to do without Office when I switched to Mac, but I just couldn't manage it as I was spending far too much time dealing with the incompatibilities, especially with Excel.  I tried, it didn't work.  Honestly, I could use iWork for myself, but that doesn't stop others from sending me XLSX and DOCX documents.

 

Also, my wife is in school and she tried to do without Office on her laptop.  She had a professor that failed her on a paper because he couldn't open it.  He didn't let her know when it happened, she found out when she got her grade on the paper.  He told her he only accepted Word documents and flunked other papers if they would not open.  She was using OpenOffice at the time, and I think she just forgot to do a "Save As..." and change the format to Word.  The grade isn't the point though.  She got paranoid about using anything other than Office and didn't want to flunk more papers because she forgot to pick the right menu option.  So we bought Office.  Not because of Microsoft, but another person,

 

It's just hard to use another program when you live in a world where some people act like Microsoft Office is the ONLY software for editing documents.


Edited by rednival - 6/14/13 at 11:23am
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Wow, it's Friday morning and someone at Microsoft decided, "what the hell, let's really blow this week!"

 

Really, can Microsoft do anything right these days?

 

I was really excited about MS Office for iOS, but wow, did they blow it... and not in a beta/version-1 kind of way, but in a way that's all kinds of bad and not likely to improve.

 

I'm ok with the $99 a year.  I don't like it, but if it's solid, it's worth it.

 

What I'm not ok with is simple things like not being able to save a document unless you're connected and able to log in.  Not being able to print at all.  And worse, somehow managing to be less compatible with Office than several other apps including Apple's iWork.

 

I think the ultimate, "just give up Microsoft" moment for me was when I read this review on InfoWorld:

"Microsoft Office for iPhone is pathetically bad"

 

Specifically, "I have to be fair to Microsoft: Its version of Mobile Office for Window Phone has all the same issues and limitations, as did the years-old version of the long-dead Windows Mobile platform".

 

In other words, for Microsoft, this is as good as it gets.

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Err, I have Pages, which as a bonus integrates with Text-To-Speech. What the hell would I want a crippled subscription-only bit of bloatware for? 

 

This is just a viewer with very light editing capabilities, what bloatware. Plus it's not meant for you but medium to large companies who use Office 365, which is actually a pretty decent service. I love being able to retrieve all my documents, company documents and company memos anywhere, where as before I had to wait to get to the office. This is a very handy tool for those who use an iPhone and their company utilizes Office 365.

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I was really excited about MS Office for iOS, but wow, did they blow it... and not in a beta/version-1 kind of way, but in a way that's all kinds of bad and not likely to improve.

 

 

Wow, this isn't Office for iOS but just a document viewer for Office 365. If you or your company doesn't use Office 365 then this isn't meant for you.

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