Originally Posted by wakefinance
So let me get this straight. When Android, Windows, BlackBerry, etc. does something first, it's expected that Apple will have that feature sometime later because they likely thought of it themselves? But when Apple does something first, it was likely that nobody else considered doing something like that? I don't think you even see your bias.
I'm not here to tell you that Apple shouldn't be borrowing ideas from the competition or that the competition shouldn't be borrowing them from Apple. I'm simply telling you that it happened and will happen again. In iOS 7 (and in iOS 6 and 5) Apple added features that brought it to parity with the features available on other platforms. Those features existed elsewhere, and Apple made them look like they belonged in iOS and added them. There is nothing wrong with that at all. That's how it should work. There's no lying whatsoever in saying that Apple has copied, borrowed, designed in the likeness of, or was inspired by features from other platforms.
As far as Android stealing the entirety of iOS, I completely disagree. Having used both, I can confidently say that the similarities between the two stop at the level of being a touchscreen smartphone interface, something that was around even before the iPhone but not done nearly as well as Apple did it. I think that you feel threatened by the explosion in popularity of Android in a market that was earlier monopolized by Apple. At least, that's the only reason I can think of for your irrationality.
One thing you are correct about is that even when not first to market with a feature, Apple usually gets it right(er). I see the tides changing a bit in that regard. Since Matias Duarte became head of Android user experience (or whatever his title is), Android has gotten a much more cohesive and polished UI. In no way does Android look as fresh and beautiful as iOS 7, but 5.0 is around the corner, and I expect it to further, if not entirely, close the gap in design and polish. Of course, even if Android 5.0 comes out this fall, something looking increasingly unlikely, I might still switch to the iPhone to get my hands on what appears to be a beautiful and functional (finally!) iOS 7. That's because I'm open-minded and have no problem acknowledging the truth when it's staring me in the face. You should work on that.
With your first post on this thread you had me wondering. As another stated, you seemed as though you found a tiny nugget of gold and started jumping up and down. You were correct, but you seemed to be using it to stir a monumental debate on this thread.
As you had so eloquently put it, yes that is Tim Cook up there next to a big screen showing a metric of "units shipped" and not units sold. Please read my earlier post. It was a DEVELOPER conference and he was literally just trying to show the install base of the operating system. The "shipped" word was purposly used. This conference had nothing to do with chest thumping sales numbers. Almost every time Tim mentioned anything about units sold he followed it up with a statement saying "we're not about units sold".
Your further posts show that you're a bit more open minded. If I were to disregard your strange links to evangelists type articles that you decided to share.
Please remember that most folk here are, for one reason or another, very defensive about Apple criticism except for Sol. (I love Sol) There are very few scientific minds on this site, so evidence vs. post is lost horribly in between posts and most posts used as so called evidence is just another radical opinion. (which you demonstrated)
My advise would be to listen to what some of the educated and longed lived people are posting here. You'll be able to pick them out. They're the people who are posting without bias. Sometimes you'll see heavy criticism in one post and pure apathy in the next.
However, just thank who ever you would that the Tallest Shrill is no longer on this site. I have. I'm sure he'll pop up somehow, but much deflated.
My last statement, you were very close to wrong on mosts of your posts on this thread. However I think you're just learning. Apple is not the best at everything and I sure hope they borrow all of the best from everyone out there. At least for me on a personal level I hope they do. Some of us know that they're not the best at all things but they are extremely good at a few key things that matter.
Please keep an open mind.
Edit: I don't like the icons on iOS7 at all. The whole speech was about giving the phone a personal touch. You can not do that on an engineering level. You can not grid out a personal touch. Faces are personal, and literally the most commonly recognizable things we see every day on a very personal level. I can guarantee you that there is nothing symmetrical about a persons face. Let alone that the color scheme seems like it was a Crayola kindergarden contest on who could color the best icon. Make an icon without symmetry and people will recognize it within seconds. That's literally what are brains are built to do. We see green instead of leaves or trees, but if you put a funky looking tree in there... oh brother! Everyone sees it! :)
Edited by Vadania - 6/17/13 at 7:37pm