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The theatrical trailer for the Steve Jobs biopic, "Jobs," has been released, giving viewers a closer look at Ashton Kutcher in the title role, as well as a better sense of the span of the film.



The trailer is the longest look viewers have gotten to date at Kutcher as Jobs in the controversial film. The biopic, originally set to open in theaters this past April, is now slated for release on August 16.

"Jobs" is one of two pictures based on the life of the Apple co-founder. The other, to be penned by "The Social Network" scribe Aaron Sorkin, Sorkin describes his film as "a play in three scenes" in real-time backstage footage at different Apple product launches.

"Jobs," on the other hand, spans much of the life of the late Apple icon. The theatrical trailer shows the movie going from at least the development of the personal computer on through the debut of the iPod, with a bearded Kutcher as Jobs visible for a fraction of a second.

The Kutcher film, which also stars Josh Gad in the role of Steve Wozniak, has come under some criticism since it was announced. Kutcher initially said he believed the role of Jobs was meant for him, and called the script "award worthy." When early footage emerged, though, it was panned by Steve Wozniak, who said that the portrayal of Jobs was "so far from anything that really happened" that the Apple co-founder would have been "offended and embarrassed."

Kutcher and Gad appeared at this year's Macworld conference to discuss the film and perhaps do damage control in the wake of Wozniak's comments. The film, they said, was done with the "utmost love, admiration, and respect."
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Cha-Ching. Cashing in on Steve. Kutcher may have taken the job to honor him, but based on few early scenes shown already, Woz has said it didn't get the history right. He was on CNN talking about the movie.

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post #3 of 35
I'm waiting for the David Fincher directed, Aaron Sorkin written, Scott Rudin produced movie. Three scenes from a life rather than a whole life compressed into 90 mins.
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As much as I hate Kutcher, I have to admit this looks like an exciting fun movie.  1smile.gif

 

It could easily be better than the Sorkin one, which based on his previous work is likely to be a snooze-fest. 

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… Woz has said it didn't get the history right ...

 

Woz famously has pretty much no idea about people, personalities, relationships, etc. so what he remembers isn't likely to be what actually happened in any case.  

The other people present at the time would be better sources of "fact."

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Kutcher seems to have nailed a lot of jobs mannerisms, etc here. His voice isn't right, but I can't imagine there's much he can do about that.

 

The guy playing woz doesn't seem quite right either. 

 

It's hard to portray real people that so many people have seen, in a movie. 

 

I don't care if there's license taken with reality-- after all, a lot of what happened happened behind closed doors and other than interviewing Woz extensively, there's no way to recreate those conversations.... and Woz is a great guy but he's got a seemingly inconsistent memory.

 

Just so long as it isn't one of those ignorant Apple hatefests that things like "Pirates of Silicon Valley" and the like. 

 

Sorkin's Facebook movie wasn't exactly flattering, and the Jobs Biography was written by an asshole who couldn't be objective (and not in a favorable way to jobs--- for instance he quotes jobs saying something, then says jobs was wrong and quotes bill gates saying something that was completely factually untrue... at that point, I about threw the book across the room.) 

 

I doubt Sorkin has the integrity to rise above the material he's been given.

 

Of course, I'll be seeing both movies opening night.  That goes without saying.

post #7 of 35
Very good trailer. For people who know the general story,
it pushes a lot of buttons. I look forward to the movie.
I bought the Apple II soon after its release in the 70s,
will be fun to see it on the screen.

Not bothered if the movie stretches the truth here and there,
it isn't a documentary. Same with the Oliver Stone movie, "JFK."
Besides, even the memories of people who participated in events
often change.

If they get the feeling right, that sense of what it was like
to start Apple and make it grow, that will make a successful film.
post #8 of 35
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I'm waiting for the David Fincher directed, Aaron Sorkin written, Scott Rudin produced movie. Three scenes from a life rather than a whole life compressed into 90 mins.

 

I like how you name-drop as if these guys were so great that it guarantees a good movie.  lol.gif

 

In fact, Sorkin is no great shakes as a writer and Fincher is primarily known for directing Madonna music videos.  Everything Sorkin has written is a cliche-fest and other than "The Social Network" he writes TV shows.  Fincher only has a couple of really good movies under his belt, and those were successful more because they were fantastic scripts acted by some of the best in the business, than because of his direction.  

 

I'm keeping my mind open, but the description of this thing "three 30 minute scenes in real time, all at Apple product announcements," sounds dubious IMO.  

post #9 of 35
Surprisingly it looks decent enough to get me in the seat.

I think some of the facts may not be there 100% but that doesn't mean it can't get the feel of the time and the main themes and inspirations correct.

Movies are about how they make us feel more so than that of historically correct depictions.

Other wise they'd be documentaries. And even those are often a farse.
post #10 of 35
That looks horrible! Glad it stopped buffering before I saw any more. Ashton can't act a lick. Just terrible.
post #11 of 35
I'd like to find the idiot that cut that trailer and punch him in the nuts, along with everyone that approved it.

Why? That last bit. They should have stopped at the title card. That was the perfect build up etc and then they go and put a joke after it. That kind of decision making doesn't bode well for the choices the final cut may enough. Could be things worse than that clip we saw in January which was full of bad directing and camera work.

Course to be fair, I think the Sorkin movie should not be a movie with the way they are going about it. A play would be the better move for that style of storytelling.

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post #12 of 35
The people who cut the trailers are not often the ones who cut the movie.
post #13 of 35
This trailer looks great, now I might actually go see it. The snippet shown a few months ago seemed pretty dismal.

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post #14 of 35
This looks pretty good. Getting excited to see it. 1smile.gif. I have a feeling this one will be a little more "fun" than the sorkin one.
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I like how you name-drop as if these guys were so great that it guarantees a good movie.  lol.gif

The odds are more in their favor than the three guys behind Jobs.

Lets break it down

For this film we have
A director with two credits prior to this. And along with writing/co-writing both of those, he wrote two TV movies both of which were over ten years ago.
A writer with zero credits before this
A producer with no prior credits (plus a pack of so called EPs that got that from being part of the backing studios but didn't spend 5 minutes on set ever)


Compare this to
'Untitled Steve Jobs from bio, etc' film
Director who cut his teeth with music videos and then went on to direct several tv show eps and nine major films including the Social Network which was nominated for several awards including Best Director, etc
A writer with some half dozen TV shows (all of which he helped to create) including the Globe and Emmy winning West Wing and that many again in movies. He's also wrote the play 'A Few Good Men' which the play was based on as well as the screenplay for said adaptation.
And a producer who, after a start as a casting director, has been involved with almost a full 100 projects prior to this one from both movies and TV shows. He's also one of only 14 EGOTs in the industry.

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The people who cut the trailers are not often the ones who cut the movie.

Having started my career at a trailer house I am very aware of this fact. Which is why I said and the folks that approved it.

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That looks horrible! Glad it stopped buffering before I saw any more. Ashton can't act a lick. Just terrible.

This is almost as bad as learning that Mila Kunis is dating Ashton Kutcher. Well, I guess that is a step up from Macaulay Culkin.

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In fact, Sorkin is no great shakes as a writer and Fincher is primarily known for directing Madonna music videos.  

 

Everyone's entitled to their opinions. But David Fincher is known for much more than that.

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Everything Sorkin has written is a cliche-fest and other than "The Social Network" he writes TV shows.  

 

 

Untrue. Not even close to the truth.

 

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Fincher only has a couple of really good movies under his belt, and those were successful more because they were fantastic scripts acted by some of the best in the business, than because of his direction.  

 

Not even pretending to be objective. Good for you.

 

I am no fanatical fan of Sorkin and Fincher but I also don't understand the blatant disregard for one's own credibility. Oh well, to each his own.

post #19 of 35
Eh I've seen the first half of this movie already, and Noah Wyle played a better jobs than Kelsow I have to say.
post #20 of 35

Wow! A movie about Ashton Kutcher playing Steve Jobs pretending he is Ashton Kutcher trying to do a Steve Jobs impersonation. Awesome!

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post #21 of 35

That trailer actually looked pretty awesome I thought!

 

And I've said this before, but I'll say it again. I'll probably end up liking this movie better than the Sorkin movie. I thought that the Social Network was pretty damn boring and vastly overrated.

post #22 of 35
New to here, but a apple user since the early 90's.

This & the Sorkin production will bring out the subjectiveness in us all. We all have a view of Jobs, that may or may not be supplemented with the views of others (books etc.). He was such a iconic figure that we want to know more about how & why he became this & achieved so much.

As a result this film will either satisfy us (offers a visual representation of the stories we've heard) or not - depends on us really.

To judge the film on any artistic merit, will be quite difficult for us, due to a lack of objectivity - I mean Pirates was hardly Oscar material.

I'm interested in seeing it, but don't know if that will be the cinema, DVD or cable
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From what I have seen (not much) it seems this film is a variation (with bigger budget) of scenes previously seen in Pirates of Silicon Valley, which was not so bad, according to me. It seems that these gospels (present and future) will all tell the same story, with slightly different viewpoints. The question will eternally remain : what is the truth ? I am not sure Wozniak is necessarily the well qualified source ....

post #24 of 35

Steve Jobs, even without his accomplishments in the computing industry, was an intellectual explorer. 

 

Ashton Kutcher, despite strong resemblance to his subject, is a lightweight actor. I tried to withhold judgment when the casting decision was announced. This trailer shows my reservations were justified. Kutcher is unable to shake his "Dude, where's my car" persona.

post #25 of 35
Yes, a total insult to Jobs. Ashton's couches makes him look and act like a pissed off teenager not a man struggling with a depth of vision and and growth from contemplation. This is a pop culture movie for the masses, not something made with any humility.
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There's a much funnier and easily better movie made to parody this, called iSteve that was on funnyordie.com which was essentially the best Steve Jobs movie about Steve Jobs. It's no longer available to watch but you can see it on Hulu Plus or Amazon... of course I don't know if Amazon Prime members get it for free but I saw it the day it was on their website and it's by the guy who made the I'm a Mac and I'm a PC Commerials who went to the Art Institute of Schaumburg in Illinois. I might be wrong on which one he went to so I might not be right on the location.

 

I still want to see Jobs with Ashtun Kutcher but I heard through the internet grapevine that it's not as good as everyone thought it could be. Maybe the best steve jobs films are those found on Youtube where he's presenting a new product. 

 

What do you guys think would be different if Steve Jobs was still alive today?

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The people who cut the trailers are not often the ones who cut the movie.

 

That usually means the movie is even worse.

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What do you guys think would be different if Steve Jobs was still alive today?

It's still early enough on that I see everything they make being nearly the same, sans iPad mini.

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There's a much funnier and easily better movie made to parody this, called iSteve that was on funnyordie.com which was essentially the best Steve Jobs movie about Steve Jobs.

 

That movie was complete garbage, and it wasn't even that funny and it only has a 5.4 on IMDB, hardly the mark of a good movie. It's more die than funny.

 

In comparison, Pirates of Silicon Valley scores 7.1 on IMDB.

 

I'm not just going by IMDB scores here, because I've also seen both of them. iSteve is not even worth watching, IMO. It's amateurish crap and an insult to Apple and Steve Jobs.

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It's still early enough on that I see everything they make being nearly the same, sans iPad mini.
Considering we know the next three iPhones were made by him pretty simular.

The trailer was enjoyable, now I am wondering us this going to be in theaters?
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That movie was complete garbage, and it wasn't even that funny and it only has a 5.4 on IMDB, hardly the mark of a good movie. It's more die than funny.

In comparison, Pirates of Silicon Valley scores 7.1 on IMDB.

I'm not just going by IMDB scores here, because I've also seen both of them. iSteve is not even worth watching, IMO. It's amateurish crap and an insult to Apple and Steve Jobs.

I actually didn't care that much about it being a "good movie" that costs millions to develop. You're point is obviously valid because it took less than a month to make iSteve.

I still want to see "Jobs" but because of it's 7 average rating on imdb I'd say that rating is maybe based on Steve Jobs life and not just the movie itself. We've read his biography and seen keynotes of him, get thinner over the years. And you'd think if he'd treated himself the first time instead of using natural foods he'd still be alive today.

In all honesty I don't like Ashton Kutcher though as Steve. He's done too many stupid things to be taken seriously so that could be a factor as well for the rating.

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It's still early enough on that I see everything they make being nearly the same, sans iPad mini.

Yeah maybe you're right... but I think iOS 7 would look different than it does at this moment if he was still here, I now think the iOS 6 icons look better than ever before. Too many design errors on the new OS. It looks like they tried making Windows 7 Aero but took out the really good parts about iOS doing so like the dock app reflections and the nice glossy finish on the icons that made them look a bit like glowing candies. Now it looks all unicorn rainbowy puke bleh and 80's Van Halen. It essentially looks like an OS designed for teenage girls.

I'm pretty sure iOS 8 will look more like BB OS 6.
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That movie was complete garbage, and it wasn't even that funny and it only has a 5.4 on IMDB, hardly the mark of a good movie. It's more die than funny.

 

In comparison, Pirates of Silicon Valley scores 7.1 on IMDB.

 

I'm not just going by IMDB scores here, because I've also seen both of them. iSteve is not even worth watching, IMO. It's amateurish crap and an insult to Apple and Steve Jobs.

I think people downrated that movie because they didn't understand it.    They didn't understand that it wasn't a parody of Steve and Apple.   It was a parody of the way that Hollywood makes screen biographies of famous people.     So you have the competition for the same girl between Jobs and Woz, the bookended story, etc. --- all things that absolutely never happened, but included anyway because they follow Hollywood script conventions and because Hollywood script writers think it's no big deal to change reality.   There were even major historical event changes in Spielberg's Lincoln movie which the screenwriters were apparently aware of. 

 

When I looked at the trailer for "Jobs", some scenes did remind me uncannily of the parody.

 

I don't think this is going to be a great movie.   I don't hate Kutcher as much as many other people do, but at the very least, he doesn't have the acting ability to fully inhabit the character - he apparently didn't even attempt to work with a vocal/dialog coach to make himself sound more like Steve.    (Or, if he did, he failed).     Having said that, Noah Wiley didn't attempt to change his vocal style in "Pirates..." either.     There are few actors who are capable of this and I actually can't think of anyone who would have been better to play Steve, even though I'm sure there are better actors out there.   An actor like Johnny Depp does fully inhabit characters and he generally becomes a completely different person with each character he plays, but he looks nothing like Jobs.  But just to show what someone can do with a voice, in the "The Lone Ranger" trailer, Depp's voice is exactly that of Jay Silverheels, who played Tonto on TV.    That really made me laugh.   

 

Where I think the movie will succeed is in presenting those famous bits and moments and provide us with a sense of nostalgia.   So seeing that Apple II display and the old rainbow Apple logo at a small trade show (Applefest?) did bring a smile to my face and for those reasons, I'm likely to go see this movie and possibly even enjoy it.  

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The portrayal of Woz appears to be a grotesque parody of the man.
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