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post #41 of 72

I think Apple made the right choice in the 11" MacBook Air, between battery life and raw CPU performance. The Air isn't the Pro, and more importantly, the previous generation Core i5 and i7 based Airs could only muster 5 hour batteries, the shortest of any current MacBook product. Getting all-day battery life makes the 11" MacBook Air that much more useful for its intended market.

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I think you should say "never do with Apple support is run Mac OS X..,".  The Hackintosh program is alive and well, and there are plenty of folks running OS X ML as a VM (VMware, Hyper-V, and Virtualbox).

 

Also - I don't believe that the new Samsungs are convertibles.

I'm aware of hackintoshes, and those work best when building a system from scratch, choosing and using the exact right components, such as motherboard, cpu, gpu etc., and even then it takes some effort and fiddling around to make it work 100%. It's a bit more difficult and sometimes impossible when somebody is just trying to install OS X onto any out of the box PC laptop. Virtualization is another story.

 

Also, the Samsung Ativ Q laptop is definitely a convertible.

 

 -- It's a hybrid device, transforming from a Windows 8 slate into a full-fledged laptop in one quick motion. That's not all, though -- at the tap of an icon it'll boot into Android Jelly Bean, letting you swipe around all of your favorite apps from the Google Play store.

 

http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/samsung-ativ-q/4505-3126_7-35796877.html

 

That sounds like a device from the deepest gates of hell, running Windows 8 and Android, plus it's a convertible! lol.gif I can hardly think of a more unappealing device that I would want.1smoking.gif

post #43 of 72
Abigazal is right. The 13inch MBA is stated as 12 hours of battery life. Online someone tested it and it lasted for over 13 hours on medium brightness while using safari the whole time. Apple under states battery life. On lowest brightness it can probably last like 14 hours
post #44 of 72

Michael,

 

In addition to better battery life with Mavericks 10.9 installed, Apple Maps will be included which duplicates functionality of the iOS version.

 

I can't comment directly, but I don't think you'll be disappointed a GPS chip is not included, as long as wifi is switched on.

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These new Macbook Airs look great! The best models ever! And that battery time is just off the charts!

 

And what kind of a fool mentions anything about any Samsung Windows 8 vaporvare, that will no doubt suck. Who gives a shit about Windows 8 and who gives a shit about a Samsung product that is not even released? What a joke. Were you just born yesterday?

 

I agree... this has me itching for a new MBA.

 

But about Windows 8... I actually just installed it via Bootcamp on my 2011 Mac Mini along with Office 2013 (mostly because MS Office for OS X is horrendous).  I've got to say that it runs really well.  It's actually quite interesting to see the kind of design choices Microsoft has made.

 

The funny thing about Windows 8 is this:

After using it for awhile, my biggest complaint is the lack of polish.

 

Small bits of the UI or interaction animations just aren't quite right.  When I see these things, I'm the type to really inspect them and repeat the interaction several times.  I always end up wondering how it is that a person could be responsible for shipping such unpolished work.  I'd be embarrassed, but then I know people who I could show these things to and they wouldn't know what I'm talking about; they wouldn't even see it if I pointed it out.

post #46 of 72
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My new 11" is only lasting 3h40m running an external monitor and moderate use of Chrome Browser.


If you can use an external monitor why do you care about the battery life?  Further why do you disconnect power using external monitor?

post #47 of 72
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Nice review, but I'd rather read up on the 13" model. Oh well.
I thought that was already posted.
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With regards to the battery life, I think Apple is about the only company who actually understates their duration.
Yes, that is a dream company.

2 years ago I went searching for the longest battery life standard (bottom model)on a computer, I found some as low as 3 hours, yet the max I found was 7 hours included in macs and a few other weird brands. Apple has now uped that to 9. With some people testing up to 10 1/2 on 11 inch model, and 14 on 13 inch model.
post #48 of 72
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Sure it is.

Also, you need to condition your battery when you first buy it.
Maybe it's not a MacBook and one of cheap ones, or its powering the monitor.
post #49 of 72
>enough tilt for typing..
Why would you need tilt of the keyboard for typing? Are you still looking at the keyboard while typing?
I never could undertand why the tilt of any keyboard is needed - it makes it so non-ergonomic.
post #50 of 72
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The battery life in the new 11" is amazing. I just wonder how much of it is due to Haswell, and therefore the PC notebooks will get it too. However hopefully with the Mavericks changes the Mac will pull ahead even further.

I 'spect you be rite... The Air running on Mavricks will be a killer combo about the time the Brand X ultrabooks start hitting the market.

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post #51 of 72
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I'm aware of hackintoshes, and those work best when building a system from scratch, choosing and using the exact right components, such as motherboard, cpu, gpu etc., and even then it takes some effort and fiddling around to make it work 100%. It's a bit more difficult and sometimes impossible when somebody is just trying to install OS X onto any out of the box PC laptop. Virtualization is another story.

 

Also, the Samsung Ativ Q laptop is definitely a convertible.

 

 -- It's a hybrid device, transforming from a Windows 8 slate into a full-fledged laptop in one quick motion. That's not all, though -- at the tap of an icon it'll boot into Android Jelly Bean, letting you swipe around all of your favorite apps from the Google Play store.

 

http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/samsung-ativ-q/4505-3126_7-35796877.html

 

That sounds like a device from the deepest gates of hell, running Windows 8 and Android, plus it's a convertible! lol.gif I can hardly think of a more unappealing device that I would want.1smoking.gif

My only point was that "never" is a mighty strong word.lol.gif

 

Also - jusephe brought up with Ativ Book 9 Plus. which is not a convertible.  As you pointed out, the Ativ Q *is* a convertible, and is like a device from the deepest gates of hell - blech.  Destined to sell by the dozens.

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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

Nice review, but I'd rather read up on the 13" model. Oh well.
I thought that was already posted.

Earlier? Because this article is about the 11". And I would like a review on the 13.3". You know 1440 vs 1366 px, 9 vs 12 hours, SD slot, all that.
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Earlier? Because this article is about the 11". And I would like a review on the 13.3". You know 1440 vs 1366 px, 9 vs 12 hours, SD slot, all that.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7085/the-2013-macbook-air-review-13inch

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post #54 of 72
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With regards to the battery life, I think Apple is about the only company who actually understates their duration.

 

Yay, I bought one over the weekend. So far I get about 7:30 minutes, that's so great it's double the time of my older one, very happy. Still would have liked a Retina version, oh well maybe next year, still an awesome upgrade though.

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post #55 of 72
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.... but these are the best battery life specs of any computer right now..

Really, my husbands Asus VivoTab 810c gets about 18 hours, my ThinkPad X230 none Haswell with the 9 Cell get's 12 hours, if I add the bottom battery slice it's over 20 hours, with browsing on the WWAN and listening to music. Not to say the new Macbooks aren't great but there are a lot of laptops that get the same if not better battery. When the new Haswell Thinkpad X's come out their talking 12 hours with the 6 Cell, 18 with the 9 and 28 hours with the external battery slice. The Panasonic SX is 18 hours and only weighs 2.55 lbs, they just announced the Haswell version with a 24 hour battery, same weight.


Edited by Relic - 6/24/13 at 12:49am
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post #56 of 72

I wonder why the Haswell MBPs didn't come out at the same time? Perhaps they will come out at the same time as the new Mac Pro, and have Thunderbolt 2 also, and work with an Apple 4K display.

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Despite of my hate of Samsung , to be honest, their Ativ book laptop with 3200x1800 display, more powerful cpu options,
12 hour battery life, and comparable thickness, makes the new MBAs immediately outdated. Was saving money for a 13", guess will have to wait for another year

Is that 3200x1800 display using retina software to display the equivalent of a 1600x900 screen, or really 3200x1800?

 

If it is the latter, then it serves little except to make everything appear comically small on the screen. Heck, even 2560x1440 on my 27" imac makes some of the fonts extremely small. 

 

Has anyone gotten their hands on one to try? Seems like it would be a pain to see anything on it!

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Very kind; thank you!
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Is that 3200x1800 display using retina software to display the equivalent of a 1600x900 screen, or really 3200x1800?

If it is the latter, then it serves little except to make everything appear comically small on the screen. Heck, even 2560x1440 on my 27" imac makes some of the fonts extremely small. 

Has anyone gotten their hands on one to try? Seems like it would be a pain to see anything on it!

Windows 8 scaling sort of sucks. It maxes out at scaling things up to 150%. I'm guessing this thing will release with Windows 8.1 which is not only supposed to provide better scaling options, it will also allow different scaling settings on different monitors (simultaneously for multiple monitor configs). Only time will tell. Maybe Samsung has something custom up their sleeves (I have not watched the review videos).
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Originally Posted by abazigal View Post

Is that 3200x1800 display using retina software to display the equivalent of a 1600x900 screen, or really 3200x1800?

 

If it is the latter, then it serves little except to make everything appear comically small on the screen. Heck, even 2560x1440 on my 27" imac makes some of the fonts extremely small. 

 

Has anyone gotten their hands on one to try? Seems like it would be a pain to see anything on it!

I hate to say this due to fear of a reprisal but that thing is pretty bitch'n. I think I want it, I'll just add it to my wish list of notebooks I'll never buy, right next to the ChromeBook Pixel and a Panasonic Toughbook. The Pixel by the way is without out a doubt one of the most beautiful laptops I have ever seen.

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post #61 of 72
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"Apple now offers a 128GB SSD as standard across the MacBook Air line, with 256GB and 512GB options available for the pricier 11-inch model."

 

It's the pricier 13-inch model, not 11-inch.

No, it's the pricier 11" model.  I just went to the store - there are 2 11" models split by processor grade.  On the pricier, faster 11", you can get a 512GB SSD, just like on the pricier 13" model.

 

Pretty sweet- I have a 512GB SSD in my old-ish MBP - but it's nowhere near a svelte as the 11" Air.  Sigh.

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I hate to say this due to fear of a reprisal but that thing is pretty bitch'n. I think I want it, I'll just add it to my wish list of notebooks I'll never buy, right next to the ChromeBook Pixel and a Panasonic Toughbook. The Pixel by the way is without out a doubt one of the most beautiful laptops I have ever seen.

 

And therein lies the rub - MBP Retinas are not only beautiful, but also functional.  Remember design isn't just looks - it's how the device works.  Part of that "how it works" is what it can do, and how much effort it takes to make it do that.

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And therein lies the rub - MBP Retinas are not only beautiful, but also functional.  Remember design isn't just looks - it's how the device works.  Part of that "how it works" is what it can do, and how much effort it takes to make it do that.

Yeah but the Chromebook Pixel has a glowy thingy on it and who cares about functionality when it's shiny. Reason number 121 why girls shouldn't comment about tech products.  1biggrin.gif

 


Edited by Relic - 6/25/13 at 4:37pm
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post #64 of 72

A recent power outage here has me thinking that a MacBook Air paired with a solar charger is a really good idea, just on the basis of emergency preparedness alone.

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A recent power outage here has me thinking that a MacBook Air paired with a solar charger is a really good idea, just on the basis of emergency preparedness alone.

Charge your way to a healthier life;

 

 

Just waiting for the Shake Weight model myself.

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post #66 of 72
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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

Earlier? Because this article is about the 11". And I would like a review on the 13.3". You know 1440 vs 1366 px, 9 vs 12 hours, SD slot, all that.
It was real brief but gave a few things more (that seem to not be in mind for you)

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I wonder why the Haswell MBPs didn't come out at the same time? Perhaps they will come out at the same time as the new Mac Pro, and have Thunderbolt 2 also, and work with an Apple 4K display.
Yes or they don't have enough planned for them, This just won't me to put the year to breif

Minor
1)new 16 gb iPod touch to replace the 4th gen.
2)added 128 gb IPad (retina only)
3)faster speed+lower price in some retina MacBooks
MajorImproved battery and speed MacBook airs (non retina)

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A recent power outage here has me thinking that a MacBook Air paired with a solar charger is a really good idea, just on the basis of emergency preparedness alone.
I hope Steve jobs had a super hybrid screen with touch sensors, display, solar glass, as with other patents apple has for renewable energy (if you think about it the more you use it the more you charge it so sleep/just picture would be more simular in battery life) in his labatorys.
post #67 of 72
Make it retina, take a few hours of battery life if you must, and I'll be first in line.

Well - not really, I'll order it online, but you know what I mean.
post #68 of 72
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Make it retina, take a few hours of battery life if you must, and I'll be first in line.

Well - not really, I'll order it online, but you know what I mean.

Retina is nice but I would take battery over resolution any day, current display is no slouch, I can still accomplish everything that I need the little guy to do.

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post #69 of 72
My dilemma has been choosing between waiting for an iPad mini with Retina (whenever) to supplement my MacBook Pro 13" or replace it for commuting with an 11" Air.

May sound like a strange choice, but I travel almost constantly and when I'm not I commute by train in town daily, so question is which would be better as a working tool for email and such without adding too much weight to an already heavy backpack.

With an iPad mine Retina nowhere in sight, I now seriously consider an 11" Air for traveling and leaving my 13" at home. For business travel, the trade-off is (plus) lighter weight and slightly longer battery life (my 3 y/o Pro is down to about 6 hours) and (minus) a narrower display for spreadsheets (one thing I prefer about a full size notebook).

Advantage Air. Thanks for the review, I will think about an 11" 1.70GB/8GB with 256GB or 512GB Flashdrive.
post #70 of 72
Absolutely the best decision i have made in purchasing a new computer in a long time. I struggled back and forth between iPad/Macbook for awhile. I always enjoyed the power of OS X which finally pulled me to Macbook Air. This machine is awesome. So many good points and no bad ones. Well built, light weight, powerful, quiet, no heat buildup and just plain works well. And the convenience of not worrying about battery life is the Icing on the Cake.
post #71 of 72
A bit of the review from the samsung.

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" in desktop mode the scaling isn't quite right. You'll need to bump up the size of on-screen items to 200% just to be able to read text and graphics, although some aspects - such as third-party programs - are still tiny."

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"To the untrained eye, a battery result of between four and five hours doesn't seem particular impressive, but bear in mind that we ran the Ultrabook at High Performance without a break, doing some seriously demanding activities, ranging from simple document editing, up to editing video."

Two important things to consider.
post #72 of 72

got to the samsung page for the computer and try click the "where to buy" button. It doesnt even work lmfao

 

 

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