or Connect
AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPhone › iOS 7 beta: Apple's 'Voice Memos' app returns in latest build
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

iOS 7 beta: Apple's 'Voice Memos' app returns in latest build

post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 
While it was absent from the first beta of iOS 7, the built-in "Voice Memos" application has returned with Monday's release of iOS 7 beta 2.

Voice Memos


Developers testing iOS 7 will see the Voice Memos application appear on their home screen after installing the latest version of the beta software. It features a new icon showing wavelengths of a sound recording against a white background.

Like other native applications in iOS 7, the software has also been redesigned with a new look. Recording can be initiated by hitting a large red button, and a timeline with sound wavelengths scrolls as the memo is saved.

When tapping Done, users can then enter a name for their new recording, and it is saved. A list of saved recordings can be found at the bottom of the screen.

Legacy recordings that may have been saved in iCloud are restored with the return of the Voice Memos application, and can be listened to once again. Clips can also be trimmed, sent via message, mail or AirDrop, or deleted.
post #2 of 33
God, that keyboard looks so "linuxy" as do all those screens.
post #3 of 33

Yep. Small gray text on a gray background and no way to zoom it or change it in the settings. Perfect, as usual.

Life is too short to drink bad coffee.

Reply

Life is too short to drink bad coffee.

Reply
post #4 of 33
I'm beginning to dig this new interface design, only wish the keyboard has a bit of a depth.
post #5 of 33

I would love for some more information about the design strategy with relation to App coloring.

 

It seems like most Apps are primarily "white" where as just a few are mostly "black".  but I don't see the clear logic behind the decision to make an App black over white.  Seems like a lot of 'utility apps' are mostly black (i.e. stocks, compass and now voice memos).  By utility, I mean apps that perform a single purpose and do not interact with other apps.  One could also argue the Camera App has a mostly black interface but it clearly has inter-related operations with other iOS apps and functionality.  However, I would consider Clock, Calculator, Weather, Reminders, Notes and even Settings to be utility apps as well.

 

Anyone have any info on the graphic logic behind this stuff?


Edited by antkm1 - 6/24/13 at 11:34am
post #6 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post

Anyone have any info on the graphic logic behind this stuff?

I'd say it's very likely that Apple will do an updated "UI Guidelines" PDF.

Originally posted by Relic

...those little naked weirdos are going to get me investigated.
Reply

Originally posted by Relic

...those little naked weirdos are going to get me investigated.
Reply
post #7 of 33

Good to hear. I use it all the time, though I am sure I could pick from hundreds of other recorder apps if Apple didn't include one.

Please update the AppleInsider app to function in landscape mode.

Reply

Please update the AppleInsider app to function in landscape mode.

Reply
post #8 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by matrix07 View Post

I'm beginning to dig this new interface design, only wish the keyboard has a bit of a depth.

The only thing I don't dig about this really has nothing to do with me and everything to do with the non-techy-users.  There are arguably many more non-tech users of iOS devices than there are techy users.  What (IMO) drew those types of users to the iOS platform was it's very clear and intuitive UI.  With the advent of iOS 7 and the removal of some of the more discoverable and less intuitive UI features, I fear those will drive away some of the current users and new non-techy users that flocked to iOS because it was so obvious to use.  This new interface, while very cool and fresh and new looking, is much less obvious.  I fear the learning curve is much greater than is once was and it may drive away new and/or borderline users from it because it's slightly less obvious UI.

 

As an example, the sheer fact that non of the tap-targets are clearly marked as something you can tap.  The previous versions were very obviously marked as a button.  Something you could interact with. Now, everything is subtle; and really, colored or highlighted text is the only indication that you can interact with it.  And that to me seems like the wrong approach.  I'm all for minimalism, and this kind of UI works well in a desktop platform because you can at least hover your cursor over it and see it's clickable.  But on a touch interface, there is no hovering over links or text.  it has to be visually obvious you can tap on it and something will happen.  Otherwise you're going to get a million and one users stabbing at their screens trying to figure out what works and what doesn't...and that will be frustrating enough that some users might just give up.

 

It was very clear in the keynote that Ives & Co. believe iOS has to 'grow-up' with it's users, but then you just alienate any new users.  And when that happens, you loose market share, profit and user base.

 

Now I did play with iOS 7 a little bit at the Apple store.  One of the employees had the beta on his phone and i was able to interact with it and was pretty ok with it since i'm a seasoned user.  But if i were to give this to a newer user or someone like My mom who has never used an iOS device before, chances are it would take them a lot longer to figure out how to use the device than from the previous versions of iOS.

 

So all i'm saying is that I sure hope Apple is ready to have new and existing users flock to the help-centers and Genius bars to in greater numbers when they officially release iOS 7.  Sure like anything there is a learning curve, all i'm saying is the curve was shallower on pre-iOS 7.

 

All i'm asking for is some simple minimal boarders around key tap targets.  The buttons were not all bad and there are ways to simply them without completely removing them.


Edited by antkm1 - 6/24/13 at 11:36am
post #9 of 33
I'm curious about one comment. Stored in the cloud. So are they talking from your backup and was just 'invisible' until now or are they going to allow more control over what is backed up by giving us a toggle for voice memos. Mine sync via wifi to my computer every day so I don't need them in my backup and would love to turn it off

A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

(She's family so I'm a little biased)

Reply

A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

(She's family so I'm a little biased)

Reply
post #10 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post

 

As an example, the sheer fact that non of the tap-targets are clearly marked as something you can tap.  The previous versions were very obviously marked as a button.  Something you could interact with. Now everything is subtle and really colored or highlighted text is the only indication that you can interact with it.  And that to me seems like the wrong approach.  I'm all for minimalism, and this kind of UI works well in a desktop platform because you can at least hover your cursor over it and see it's clickable.  But on a touch interface, there is no hovering over links or text.  it has to be visually obvious you can tap on it and something will happen.  Otherwise you're going to get a million and one users stabbing at their screens trying to figure out what works and what doesn't...and that will be frustrating enough that some users might just give up.

 

I can't agree with more on this idea. There was an amazing simplicity in iOS from its lock screen to its back button. It made discovery easier than any other OS out there IMO. By loosing the tap targets (boxes), I think Apple made iOS more pretty but also a bit harder to use and this is a step backward.

 

That said, I think the new recording app is actually easier to use (The old one always confused me a bit with its recording state somewhat ambiguous. NOTE: I used it only infrequently) but I wish it was black on white instead of white on black.  However (and this might be the reason), I see this being used often in meetings where less light would be a good thing.

post #11 of 33

Does the 40% ultra-thin grey text over 20% grey background also fit with this whole "clarity" theme Ive talks about? I don't get it. That shit is barely visible. What I've always hated about Google apps (gmail, etc) is the lack of contrast. I'm not happy Apple is headed in that same direction. 


Edited by Slurpy - 6/24/13 at 11:59am
post #12 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

Does the 40% ultra-thin grey text over 20% grey background also fit with this whole "clarity" theme Ive talks about? I don't get it. 

don't get me started on a sunny day in the weather app.1hmm.gif


Edited by antkm1 - 6/24/13 at 12:03pm
post #13 of 33
Eh I've been Using it since it came out and I miss a lot of the old os. Really Apple didn't update anything anyone wanted updated. Like widgets. And opening up a bit.
post #14 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by clever View Post

...Apple didn't update anything anyone wanted updated. Like widgets.

Because no actual user wanted widgets.
Quote:
And opening up a bit.

Or that.

Originally posted by Relic

...those little naked weirdos are going to get me investigated.
Reply

Originally posted by Relic

...those little naked weirdos are going to get me investigated.
Reply
post #15 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by cleger View Post

Eh I've been Using it since it came out and I miss a lot of the old os. Really Apple didn't update anything anyone wanted updated. Like widgets. And opening up a bit.

you are so sad,,,

post #16 of 33

Too bad.  Was happy to see it go.  

post #17 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

Does the 40% ultra-thin grey text over 20% grey background also fit with this whole "clarity" theme Ive talks about? I don't get it. That shit is barely visible. What I've always hated about Google apps (gmail, etc) is the lack of contrast. I'm not happy Apple is headed in that same direction. 

 

I'm finding this all kind of amusing actually because when we first heard that Ive was going to design the UI, people with design chops said "he knows nothing about UI design and his graphic and industrial design skills won't translate."  These people were shouted down.  

 

Now we see the design and it basically fails in every way that graphic and industrial design differs as a discipline from UI and interactivity design.  It's pretty much exactly what you'd expect as the result of turning over UI design to someone who really only knows graphics and materials design.  Precisely what people were arguing when he was given the job.

post #18 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by cleger View Post

Eh I've been Using it since it came out and I miss a lot of the old os. Really Apple didn't update anything anyone wanted updated. Like widgets. And opening up a bit.

Every survey I have read for which features should Apple offer in iOS 7 seems very consistent with the features Apple is offering in iOS 7:
  • "Refreshed UI"
  • "More customization"
  • Multitasking (App Switcher)
  • Quick Access to Controls
  • AirDrop
  • Notification Center improvements
  • Siri improvements
  • Unified Search field in Safari
  • More "Tabs" in Safari
  • Full Screen Content for Safari
  • Smart Mailboxes in Mail
  • More swipe actions in Mail


Perhaps the one thing some people requested which was not provided was "improvements" to File Management. I have seen requests for opening APIs to Siri. Siri will not be open as Apple is monetizing the contracted services provided by Siri.


I didn't see a lot of people asking for these features:
  • Screen Sharing
  • Remote Control
  • "Full Access" to the Wi-Fi radio
  • Location Profiles



There really aren't a large number of significant features that the Apple iPhone is missing natively at this point.


What does "opening up a bit" even mean?
post #19 of 33
Waiting for turtleneck and beret-wearing graphic design snobs to denounce the new Voice Memo icon as "wrong."
post #20 of 33

Realizing iOS 7 is still in beta, but I hope Apple puts Voice Memo on the Control Center panel. I would think Notes would be on there as well. A super quick way to capture pixels (as in photos and videos) and sound and notes.

 

Very handy. Or give me a space or two for the App of my choice.

 

I remember Steve Jobs demoing the Lips within NeXT's email application. You clicked on the lips and recorded your message. It was popped right into the email and all the recipient had to do was open the email and click the lips to listen.

 

Not that I would be vocalizing my emails but there are some that would find it useful and/or fun.

 

I'm liking the visual impact of Ive's work more and more, just by looking at it. I haven't even touched it yet and it's growing on me.

post #21 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by macinthe408 View Post

Waiting for turtleneck and beret-wearing graphic design snobs to denounce the new Voice Memo icon as "wrong."

 

Can't say much about the icon, but yeah there is a lot to be desired here, and you don't have to be a 'design snob' to see it.  Actually, you only need to want to be able to READ more than half of the text presented in the the visual field.

 

I wish folks would stop being knee-jerk apologists long enough to examine the grey on grey text this UI design and ask themselves "is that really functionally useful?"  Anyone that can answer "yes" to that question either has the eyesight of a hawk or they are deceiving themselves.

 

Anybody who actually values and cares about Apple's contributions and products has a right to be concerned, in my opinion, based on these designs.


Edited by tt92618 - 6/24/13 at 3:00pm
post #22 of 33

Here's hoping they 'explain' why they think it isn't important for text to be legible.


Edited by tt92618 - 6/24/13 at 2:27pm
post #23 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

 

I'm finding this all kind of amusing actually because when we first heard that Ive was going to design the UI, people with design chops said "he knows nothing about UI design and his graphic and industrial design skills won't translate."  These people were shouted down.  

 

Now we see the design and it basically fails in every way that graphic and industrial design differs as a discipline from UI and interactivity design.  It's pretty much exactly what you'd expect as the result of turning over UI design to someone who really only knows graphics and materials design.  Precisely what people were arguing when he was given the job.

heck, they tried to over simplify even their own hardware.  Remember the 3rd Gen iPod Shuffle?  They took away all but one physical control and people hated it.  Now they want to take away all the buttons from iOS.  Well, time will tell.  Personally, I think all these transluscent screens are a bit too Windows Vista for me but what do I know?  Gruber et. all seem to think this is the new 'timeless' design of iOS that will take it another 5+ years, but I think it's going to feel dated long before that.

post #24 of 33
The choices of and general quality of the screenshots is pretty bad. They seem cropped to different sizes, and don't make immediate sense. When using the app it's very clear. Can you take screenshots that show the 'workflow' instead of randomizing it at different sizes/crops?

The way it's presented here, it's a bit of a train wreck... how about some explanations of what's going on in each screen, for the uninitiated? For example, the first screen has 'stacked' app/UI elements (light grey background, Airdrop text, Message & Mail icons, a cancel button)… why are those there and not in the following screens? Is that three-shade (black-medium grey- light grey) screen the default when the app launches?
Edited by tribalogical - 6/24/13 at 4:49pm
post #25 of 33
I've used it. Works fine, no complaints.

Been using the Beta since release, with the exception of a rollback to iOS 6 that lasted a day. I continue to enjoy most of the changes
I'm seeing in iOS 7.
post #26 of 33
Ok, here's my problem with the voice memo app. Driving along in the car. Want to use Siri, or just tap the voice memo button. NAAAAAH. I have to put in my security password thats required by my work, that I have at the maximum time of 30 mins. Remembering the voice memo on my old BB, just hit the button and it bypassed the password lock.

Voice memos are a really great way to make reminders when driving. Clicking the button on the screen, putting in your password, is just as dangerous as texting when driving. I may need to get a little digital voice recorder and keep it in the car, or else I am beating a dead horse here.
post #27 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by rkevwill View Post

Ok, here's my problem with the voice memo app. Driving along in the car. Want to use Siri, or just tap the voice memo button. NAAAAAH. I have to put in my security password thats required by my work, that I have at the maximum time of 30 mins. Remembering the voice memo on my old BB, just hit the button and it bypassed the password lock.

Voice memos are a really great way to make reminders when driving. Clicking the button on the screen, putting in your password, is just as dangerous as texting when driving. I may need to get a little digital voice recorder and keep it in the car, or else I am beating a dead horse here.
yeah the voice memos might need it in the new center,
Maybe Siri can help?
post #28 of 33
Installing this beta soon on my 4S. It expires on August 8 if anyone was wondering.

iTunes Radio - Apple TV with Wifi AC - Gold Anodized Aluminum iPhone - Mac Pro: September - November 2013

 

Reply

iTunes Radio - Apple TV with Wifi AC - Gold Anodized Aluminum iPhone - Mac Pro: September - November 2013

 

Reply
post #29 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post

heck, they tried to over simplify even their own hardware.  Remember the 3rd Gen iPod Shuffle?  They took away all but one physical control and people hated it.  Now they want to take away all the buttons from iOS.  Well, time will tell.  Personally, I think all these transluscent screens are a bit too Windows Vista for me but what do I know?  Gruber et. all seem to think this is the new 'timeless' design of iOS that will take it another 5+ years, but I think it's going to feel dated long before that.

Windows Vista didn't have transparent windows. They were black... Windows 7 did... and Windows 8 doesn't.

 

I feel iOS 7 is a very simplistic and a safe approach to design. It's too clean which makes it look like lazy work to me. The other icons look so well made but at the same time a little old because I've seen them for so long. Maybe if they had kept a bit of depth to the new OS with drop shadowing or glowing UI's it would look better but the flatness and removal of almost everything iOS 6 looks like is too much. It looks like a makeup artist was hired to do some of the icon designs and some of their inconsistency with other icons make them unappealing like the Safari icon and the Reminders icon.

 

But I love the new transparency in some portions of the UI and think they should have left the message bubbles the way they used to be before or just whitened them a bit instead of making them flat. Siri should have stayed the way it was... I have no idea why they think it should feel like the messages UI. It's not better like that.

iTunes Radio - Apple TV with Wifi AC - Gold Anodized Aluminum iPhone - Mac Pro: September - November 2013

 

Reply

iTunes Radio - Apple TV with Wifi AC - Gold Anodized Aluminum iPhone - Mac Pro: September - November 2013

 

Reply
post #30 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by darkdefender View Post

Windows Vista didn't have transparent windows. They were black... Windows 7 did... and Windows 8 doesn't.

 

I feel iOS 7 is a very simplistic and a safe approach to design. It's too clean which makes it look like lazy work to me. The other icons look so well made but at the same time a little old because I've seen them for so long. Maybe if they had kept a bit of depth to the new OS with drop shadowing or glowing UI's it would look better but the flatness and removal of almost everything iOS 6 looks like is too much. It looks like a makeup artist was hired to do some of the icon designs and some of their inconsistency with other icons make them unappealing like the Safari icon and the Reminders icon.

 

But I love the new transparency in some portions of the UI and think they should have left the message bubbles the way they used to be before or just whitened them a bit instead of making them flat. Siri should have stayed the way it was... I have no idea why they think it should feel like the messages UI. It's not better like that.

This is the criticism I agree with the most. Are you a designer by any chance?

The direction is OK but it need a lot of fine tunings, and a lot less ego. As for SIRI, yes, it shouldn't be just flat. She/He should have a personality. It's not a matter on mere design but also a question of how to give her a personality.

 

Btw, Vista has transparent. I know because it made my old notebook useless.

post #31 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curtis Hannah View Post

yeah the voice memos might need it in the new center,
Maybe Siri can help?

Siri does not appear to have the capability to record Voice Memos at the moment.
post #32 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


Voice Memos

 

 

What does the key to the left of the spacebar do?

post #33 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by v5v View Post

What does the key to the left of the spacebar do?

Records instead of typing. Added in iOS 6.

Originally posted by Relic

...those little naked weirdos are going to get me investigated.
Reply

Originally posted by Relic

...those little naked weirdos are going to get me investigated.
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: iPhone
AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPhone › iOS 7 beta: Apple's 'Voice Memos' app returns in latest build