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With Monday's release of iOS 7 beta 2, the next-generation operating system is now available for developers to test for the first time on the iPad and iPad mini.

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iOS 7 is compatible with the iPad mini, third- and fourth-generation iPads with Retina displays, and the iPad 2. Unsurprisingly, its appearance is largely identical to its counterparts on the iPhone and iPod touch.

Here, AppleInsider offers a peek at what iOS 7, in its current beta form, looks like when running on the iPad.

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post #2 of 131
That keyboard is just butt ugly. If I wanted a frosted glass table top which that keyboard depicts I'd buy coffee tables with that look.
post #3 of 131
Just as I suspected...
post #4 of 131
Really hoping some if the icons are also still in beta. 1frown.gif
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I don't see what the point of this kind of design trickery.  

 

It replicates the 3D shelves with gradients and squares, but the shelves are still there.  If the shelves are still there, why not just let them be shelves?  Why try to pretend that they aren't there when they obviously are?  

 

I hated the old wooden shelves, but while these are more attractive, WHY DO WE NEED VIRTUAL SHELVES AT ALL?  

 

Why not just a simple grid of book covers, just like iTunes grid of album covers?  F*ck the shelves.  

post #6 of 131
Anyone think the bar at the bottom of the home screen looks like the taskbar in windows 7? I like the current one in iOS 6 better I think. But everything else looks nice. It's hard to tell from pictures what it will be like
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I don't see what the point of this kind of design trickery.  

I hated the old wooden shelves, but while these are more attractive, WHY DO WE NEED VIRTUAL SHELVES AT ALL?  

Why not just a simple grid of book covers, just like iTunes grid of album covers?  F*ck the shelves.  

I liked the shelves!!!! Much warmer ad inviting I think. But I like the redesign too. I wouldn't want shelves in ios7 unless they were a glass shelving or something
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The quick settings panel looks a lot better on the iPad than it does on the iPhone.  

 

I still think they are making a horrible mistake in eliminating all the buttons for Windows 8 style text instead.  It violates practically every rule of UI design there is.  

 

They say we are now more "mature" users of the system so we don't need the 3D cues anymore, but this is clearly just a lie or cover-story they tell themselves (or us) to smooth things over.  No other OS I can think of has ever purposely reduced discoverability or legibility in this way.  

 

Sure lots of mistakes have been made along those lines in the past, but I can't think of anyone who has purposely done such a thing and then tried to explain it away by saying that the users are "too sophisticated" to need that stuff anymore.  It's just fluffy words to cover up decisions that have been made based on visuals instead of usability. 

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I liked the shelves!!!! Much warmer ad inviting I think. But I like the redesign too. I wouldn't want shelves in ios7 unless they were a glass shelving or something

 

Well to each their own. 1smile.gif

 

Personally, my most hated visual feature of any version of iOS is the glass shelving in iPhoto (and the associated virtual plastic binders that sit on the virtual glass shelves).  I think they look really, really, tacky and the first time I saw them was the first time I seriously thought that the whole skeuomorphic thing had gone too far.  

post #10 of 131
And here come all the design experts to tell us how Apple got it all wrong. Next we'll get the Tim needs to bring back Scott Forstall pronto or Apple is doomed posts...
post #11 of 131
In a word - HORRIBLE. Vile colours and a layout that looks like it should be sold in Toys R Us.
post #12 of 131
Not crazy about new Newsstand "shelves" either. A little too stark. Can't we find a happy medium between ghastly cartoonish skeuomorphism (remember Myst?) and modern sterility--things that reference nothing?
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post #13 of 131
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The quick settings panel looks a lot better on the iPad than it does on the iPhone.  

 

I still think they are making a horrible mistake in eliminating all the buttons for Windows 8 style text instead.  It violates practically every rule of UI design there is.  

 

They say we are now more "mature" users of the system so we don't need the 3D cues anymore, but this is clearly just a lie or cover-story they tell themselves (or us) to smooth things over.  No other OS I can think of has ever purposely reduced discoverability or legibility in this way.  

 

Sure lots of mistakes have been made along those lines in the past, but I can't think of anyone who has purposely done such a thing and then tried to explain it away by saying that the users are "too sophisticated" to need that stuff anymore.  It's just fluffy words to cover up decisions that have been made based on visuals instead of usability. 

totally agree with you.  And I just wished the tech press/blog-o-sphere would focus more on these kinds of "improvements" than what the freakin' app icons look like.  These basic UI changes are way more important than flashy colors, gradients and translucency.  

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Perhaps in a few more years in iOS 10 we will have the ability to select skins for iOS which will let us pick between the classic, iOS 7, iOS 10 or third party custom looks. I for one am in favor of giving the user more choices, making it easy to reset to defaults and making the defaults work the Apple designers think they should.
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That keyboard is just butt ugly. If I wanted a frosted glass table top which that keyboard depicts I'd buy coffee tables with that look.

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post #16 of 131
I'm with uberben on this. I like much of what has been shown on the new interface but I don't like (or don't understand) the new icons. The colour scheme is too naive for me and the icons seem to be a random set of images, there is no coherency to make them look like a set.

We were expecting to see the end of skeuomorphism: well good riddance. Except it isn't. The Contacts and notes icons are just naive (being kind) renderings of the old icons, the concept is identical. The camera icon is now entirely literal, the videos icon is a related artefact of the production of videos (as the camera icon used to be) and the photos icon has no relationship to photos at all that I can see (except perhaps it's ripped off from Snapseed which is a photos app).

The delicacy of touch of the old icons, love them or hate them, is gone. The unifying "gloss" effect is gone without replacementand the palette has regressed from 'realistic' to 'my first poster paints'. If you were trying to update the Human Interface Guidelines to describe the concept of the new icons, what would you say? Use random tasteless colours?

I look forward to the new functionality of iOS 7, I really hope Apple's exemplary graphic designers are allowed to fix the icons.

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post #17 of 131
Terrible! Apple wants the whole world to imagine that they're still in the 8th grade!
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Not crazy about new Newsstand "shelves" either. A little too stark. Can't we find a happy medium between ghastly cartoonish skeuomorphism (remember Myst?) and modern sterility--things that reference nothing?

 

Myst was awesome. I loved that game. I didn't find it cartoonish, probably because I was much younger (10) when I first played it. I had no strong feeling about the look and feel of it. It was what it was.

 

Riven was harder and darker in my opinion, but still great. I wonder if we will see the third title in the series (Exile??) on iOS one of these days? Off topic, I know but I'm feeling a bit nostalgic today.

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Not crazy about new Newsstand "shelves" either. A little too stark. Can't we find a happy medium between ghastly cartoonish skeuomorphism (remember Myst?) and modern sterility--things that reference nothing?

I think that's the inherent problem with digital UI.  You have to reference something, because it's all just pixels anyway.  How do you visually represent a series of digital publications in a GUI?  you have to make them look like something familiar...otherwise you have various sized blobs or images with text in the middle.  Oh, wait, that's Game Center.  Apparently, not even Team Ives knows what games should look like.  A magazine has to look like a magazine.  A note has to look like a note.  I love that the screen-cap for the notes App actually has the first entry titled "these are notes".   Really?  you have to tell your users what the hell it is because you've dumbed it down so far that it's just a bulleted piece of text now?  Removing visual queues with text is the worst direction to take.  If you have to make it a piece of text, you've failed.  It's no longer a GUI.  It's an instruction manual...and everyone knows nobody reads those.  You have to create a series of glyphs or icons that are visually distinctive in such a way that in a split second you can glance down a immediately know what they are and what they do.  Otherwise you've failed.  What are they going to do in the German Version?  Or the Chinese Version?  Or any other foreign language where the text just doesn't fit the area they've designated for the tap target?  when the text they've placed from the icons is too long to display in a single bar?  If you have to explain in text what something does, you've failed in the GUI.  Text should be supplemental information, not primary source.

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I don't see what the point of this kind of design trickery.  

It replicates the 3D shelves with gradients and squares, but the shelves are still there.  If the shelves are still there, why not just let them be shelves?  Why try to pretend that they aren't there when they obviously are?  

I hated the old wooden shelves, but while these are more attractive, WHY DO WE NEED VIRTUAL SHELVES AT ALL?  

Why not just a simple grid of book covers, just like iTunes grid of album covers?  F*ck the shelves.  

I agree. The shelves were part of the old skeuomorphism. Since the end result is a grid of icon anyway, having any kind of stylized shelves might be unnecessary. OTOH, I don't think this looks bad. Just unnecessary. I noticed that some high end luxury cars are getting virtual spedometers and/or tachs made to look like the physical counterpart they replaced. Weird: you'd think with a LCD screen they could design displays that weren't limited by that skeuomorphism. I mean, what is the point of an all LCD instrument panel?

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post #21 of 131

Does the iPad version have a weather app this time around?
 

post #22 of 131
So after all that trouble to get the nice-looking clock face, they dump it? I don't get it. No skeuomorphism is NOT better than some skeuomorphism.
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Terrible! Apple wants the whole world to imagine that they're still in the 8th grade!

Some of this nonsense cracks me up, man.
post #23 of 131
I like white but iOS 7 is too damn white.. Add some contrast or even tiny bit of shadow or something for goodness sake.
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Terrible! Apple wants the whole world to imagine that they're still in the 8th grade!

No silly we are talking about iOS here, put down that Microsoft device ... 1smile.gif
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I don't see what the point of this kind of design trickery.  

 

It replicates the 3D shelves with gradients and squares, but the shelves are still there.  If the shelves are still there, why not just let them be shelves?  Why try to pretend that they aren't there when they obviously are?  

 

I hated the old wooden shelves, but while these are more attractive, WHY DO WE NEED VIRTUAL SHELVES AT ALL?  

 

Why not just a simple grid of book covers, just like iTunes grid of album covers?  F*ck the shelves.  

 

You have to remember that the iBooks app is not built into iOS. It is a separate download from the app store. This is likely temporary until they release the actual app in the app store. But I agree with you that current iBook app in iOS 7 is not impressive at all.

 

EDIT: I mixed up Newsstand with iBook app. My mistake. Thanks Tallest Skil.


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post #26 of 131
Looking good 1smile.gif I like the colorful feel, shows off the beautiful screens on apple devices. Plus, the change is nice.
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You have to remember that the iBooks app is not built into iOS. It is a separate download from the app store. This is likely temporary until they release the actual app in the app store. But I agree with you that current iBook app in iOS 7 is not impressive at all.

... That's Newsstand. It's built into the OS.
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Wow, those images do not look very pretty.  I sure hope it's more appealing in person.

 

Steve Jobs didn't give certain people broad power, and he didn't force certain other people to leave the company -- maybe he had a reason.

 

It was a balance between form and function.

 

It's so freaking depressing to own Apple shares.  Tanking sales of the flagship product.  Reports of people jumping ship.  Screen shots of iOS 7 that look, frankly, a little scary.  And no whisper of any new product on the horizon that could create new growth.

 

What the heck?

 

How can the company that ushered in the PC era, and the tablet era, be in a free fall?  And how, seemingly, can this have happened so quickly?

 

Correct me, please!  I so want to be wrong.  Thanks.

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How can the company that ushered in the PC era, and the tablet era, be in a free fall?

Because it isn't, by any stretch of the imagination.
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What the heck?

That sums up a lot of posts from you people these days.
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... That's Newsstand. It's built into the OS.

 

 Ah.. thanks for the clarifications.

post #31 of 131
I love the looks of it.

But it looks like wailers and whiners (and the guys who are too vain to buy or wear a pair of reading glasses) are out in force again.... I fully hope and expect that Apple will simply ignore them.
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Personally, the more i use iOS 7, the more i dig the colours & changes, it visually pops, it give me a happy feeling 1biggrin.gif.

Apple can't please everyone, I think the average user (wider public) will really like iOS 7s look & design.

 

if people hate the new keyboard so much, they can always go to android lol.gif

I have never actually used news stand, so I really don't care how it looks now, its hiding in a folder now (Wooohooo we can do that now), a good enough reason in its self for iOS 7.

 

Sucks that i left an iPad at home (just got to work) can't test out the iPad version till tonight...

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Because it isn't, by any stretch of the imagination.
That sums up a lot of posts from you people these days.

 

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Apple moves forward and make big changes.. Apple cannot innovate anymore.. Apple is Doomed!™

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I think that's the inherent problem with digital UI.  You have to reference something, because it's all just pixels anyway.  How do you visually represent a series of digital publications in a GUI?  you have to make them look like something familiar...otherwise you have various sized blobs or images with text in the middle.  Oh, wait, that's Game Center.  Apparently, not even Team Ives knows what games should look like.  A magazine has to look like a magazine.  A note has to look like a note.  I love that the screen-cap for the notes App actually has the first entry titled "these are notes".   Really?  you have to tell your users what the hell it is because you've dumbed it down so far that it's just a bulleted piece of text now?  Removing visual queues with text is the worst direction to take.  If you have to make it a piece of text, you've failed.  It's no longer a GUI.  It's an instruction manual...and everyone knows nobody reads those.  You have to create a series of glyphs or icons that are visually distinctive in such a way that in a split second you can glance down a immediately know what they are and what they do.  Otherwise you've failed.  What are they going to do in the German Version?  Or the Chinese Version?  Or any other foreign language where the text just doesn't fit the area they've designated for the tap target?  when the text they've placed from the icons is too long to display in a single bar?  If you have to explain in text what something does, you've failed in the GUI.  Text should be supplemental information, not primary source.

They did that already and then the whiners came out and said it was stale and outdated. Well you now have your modern flat design so live with it.
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I really dislike the new UI. Dark backgrounds with semi-translucent overlays is a terrible theme in my opinion. My vision is not perfect so I can imagine a lot of difficulty with the small text on various shades of gray and blotchy blurred colors, that have been shown on many of the leaked screen shots. For people who have some visual impairment it really harms their accessibility. Even in iOS 6 although you can change the font size it only changes some content in a few apps, nothing in the UI. It may be a modern style, and again just my opinion, but I think the functionality is significantly degraded by lack of legibility. 

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post #36 of 131

Man these colors are well trippy!

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Sorry, I don't like most of it. Flat, dead-looking icons in garish colors. Eyeball grinder homescreen. But I hated the skeumorphism in find my iPhone so I am glad that is gone.
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The icons kind of look like the ones on my Nokia N9, actually the whole interface is very Meego's, digging the keyboard.

 

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They did that already and then the whiners came out and said it was stale and outdated. Well you now have your modern flat design so live with it.

I was never one to whine that iOS 6 and earlier ever really looked dated at all.   It was simple and user friendly.  I never wanted them to flatten anything.  Sure simplify some of the Skeuomorphic stuff, fine by me but never really had a problem with it before.  Check some of my posts from about 6 months ago if you care enough.  Personally, I thought the Skeuomophic stuff was what gave Apple OS' their personality.  Friendly, intuitive and familiar.  it needed very little explanation.

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The iPad version desperately needs a login screen for multiple users.
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