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Coming on the heels of the iOS 7 beta 2 release, Apple on Monday seeded the second build of its next-generation OS X 10.9 Mavericks Developer Preview to registered developers.

Update: Along with the new Mavericks preview, Apple released the second beta of Xcode 5, which can also be found via the Mac App Store.

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According to people familiar with the new Mavericks seed, Apple has dubbed the build "13A497d," a few iterations higher than the "13A476u" designation held by the first preview issued to developers during WWDC 2013.

Apple notes in there are a few bugs with the release, including minor display issues with Safari and iCloud Keychain.

The forthcoming operating system boasts a number of improvements and feature additions like Finder tabs, Maps, App Nap and Compressed Memory, among others.

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Apple's OS X 10.9 Mavericks Developer Preview 2 is available now for developers via the Mac App Store.

For more on the features and what to expect from the upcoming Mac operating system, check out AppleInsider's ongoing in-depth coverage here.
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Not sure if you can mention it or not, but how are y'all liking mavericks so far? Does it seem faster, or smoother- even being in beta? how are maps? I love mountain lion- definite improvement from lion.

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Not sure if you can mention it or not, but how are y'all liking mavericks so far? Does it seem faster, or smoother- even being in beta? how are maps? I love mountain lion- definite improvement from lion.

Nothing to complain about, it is the most solid beta I can remember. Actually, it is causing less trouble than any release version I can remember. All drivers work (printers, scanners, video capture boards, audio interfaces), all applications work (with Mail.app plugins being the only exception - I can safely reveal that, as there are several discussions about this on the Internet already).

Maps work great, including sending directions from the Mac to iDevices. It does (of course) use the same map data as the iOS version, so, your mileage may vary. It also does not have public transport schedules (where I am). Otherwise it works fine.

My favorite feature by far is the vastly improved support for multi-display setups. Can't say much about the Finder improvements, as I can't live without PathFinder (the only thing I use the Finder for is AirDrop, as PathFinder does not support it).
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I've learned the hard way to avoid Apple betas! I just don't enjoy that much frustration and none of my development efforts require that I be on the bleeding edge. Given that reports from early adopters is encouraging.
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Not sure if you can mention it or not, but how are y'all liking mavericks so far? Does it seem faster, or smoother- even being in beta? how are maps? I love mountain lion- definite improvement from lion.
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My 2008 Air saw battery life improvements. Or perhaps it's an illusion.
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My 2008 Air saw battery life improvements. Or perhaps it's an illusion.

Battery life on my 2012 15" rMBP is certainly up 20% or more. And I do not even benefit from the default blocking of Flash ads etc., as I always had the ClickToFlash extension installed.
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Battery life on my 2012 15" rMBP is certainly up 20% or more. And I do not even benefit from the default blocking of Flash ads etc., as I always had the ClickToFlash extension installed.

 

As an aside, I can't understand how I existed before ClickToFlash.  I mean, I know I did because I vaguely remember it -- like an old nightmare.  But the idea of Flash ads and the like just turns my stomach at this point.

 

I'm glad that people seem to have positive reviews of Mavericks.  As funny as it sounds, the feature I'm MOST looking forward to is Finder Tabs. :)

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Sounds nice.
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The only thing I want to know about this next OS is … 

 

… have they changed the f*cking name from "MAVERICKS" yet?   1rolleyes.gif 1rolleyes.gif 1rolleyes.gif 1rolleyes.gif 1rolleyes.gif

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Sounds like OSX Mavericks is shaping up to be a better release then iOS 7.

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Update: Along with the new Mavericks preview, Apple released the second beta of Xcode 5, which can also be found via the Mac App Store.

 

Xcode 5 is not available through the Mac App Store neither is the update (just checked). Xcode 5 new beta needs to be downloaded from the Developers website.

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When will Apple ever release a more general beta of OSX?  They did this with the first version of OSX but I don't recall them ever doing it again.  With Mavericks and the change in leadership their policy of developers only should change to get the widest adoption possible.  I'm sure there's plenty of corporation on OSX that be willing to beta test and submit bug reports.

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When will Apple ever release a more general beta of OSX? ...  With Mavericks and the change in leadership their policy of developers only should change to get the widest adoption possible.

I do not know a single software that got better because there was a public beta. Windows 8? Millions of testers and a complete failure.

You are right that Apple did a "public beta" of Kodiak, but it was $30 and a way to work around the fact that there was no OS X developer program at that point.
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… have they changed the f*cking name from "MAVERICKS" yet?

What about Apple would give you the idea that this would ever happen? Do you know Apple?
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When will Apple ever release a more general beta of OSX?

You've seen the comments when regular idiots get their hands on the DPs, right? You've seen the "complaints", right?

People today are too stupid to comprehend what they're doing even with RELEASE SOFTWARE. All I've seen is ruination of third-party developers' reputations by morons who don't know what iOS 7 and 10.9 are; imagine how that would change if it was PUBLIC!

OS X worked as a public beta for many reasons, not the least of which Apple's situation at that time and their userbase being, what, I think it was more than 5x smaller than today.

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Battery life on my 2012 15" rMBP is certainly up 20% or more. 

 

Music to my ears, I cant wait for Mav to come out! :D

i have the rMBP 15, battery life is pretty good, more would be great, does all the extra core animation stuff make things smoother?.

my 2010 air 11" will hopefully feel some improvements, battery & zippieness.

 

Even tho i have the 15" rMBP, I'm really keen to see what apple focus on when they do the haswell update on the macbook pros, If the 13" rMBP gets amazing battery life & GPU improvements are enough, i might get one & use it in place of the air, waiting on a retina air might be a few years away.

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..., does all the extra core animation stuff make things smoother?.

There isn't much in terms of additional animations. But 10.9 is definitely a lot smoother than 10.8.x. In all areas as far as I can say. Multitasking is much smoother, Safari is virtually stutter-free, even when zooming into pages on the Retina display, everything is more responsive, memory-compression clearly reduces page-outs... it really feels like there is refinement everywhere. I normally do not upgrade production machines before a .2 or .3 release, but I am really tempted to install this beta. Of course, I won't... but I feel I could.
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Even tho i have the 15" rMBP, I'm really keen to see what apple focus on when they do the haswell update on the macbook pros, If the 13" rMBP gets amazing battery life & GPU improvements are enough, i might get one & use it in place of the air, waiting on a retina air might be a few years away.

I am curious as well. If I had to bet money, I would bet on Apple trying to get the 13" as slim as the 15" before they do anything else. And I sincerely hope that a Retina Air is not "a few years away"... I really want one!
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When will Apple ever release a more general beta of OSX?  They did this with the first version of OSX but I don't recall them ever doing it again.  With Mavericks and the change in leadership their policy of developers only should change to get the widest adoption possible.  I'm sure there's plenty of corporation on OSX that be willing to beta test and submit bug reports.

 

Well, they've answered this before. They won't.

 

The reason for this is simply, that there is no benefit of doing public betas. Apple got a large developer community that helps them test their releases. Thanks to a myriad of various apps people are writing and/or optimising for each release, they are likely to uncover bugs in about every possible corner of the OS and in many cases they have enough technical understanding to describe them properly, do additional research, dig a bit deeper etc.

 

You can pretty much see all the negative side effects of being public in the current dev forums. When there still was ADC, which costed real money, only the most diehard fans would subscribe. However, since the Developer Program memberships became so super affordable the forums get swamped with regular users who simply want to try out the beta. Same story happening every year.

 

And honestly, there is absolutely no benefit to that, in fact it is terribly annoying, because you get all those people who swamp the forums with endless duplicate usability questions and generally stupid questions such as why their device got locked, because they failed to read the proper instructions and documentation before installing a beta on their everyday device. At the same time they have nothing to contribute to the community and this essentially makes it harder for developers and everyone who is actually trying to get real work done with those releases to find the information they need.

 

So no offence there, but there is little reason to make those releases more public.

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Either something went wrong with my update or Safari's default font changed. Not sure I like it.


EDIT: Aha, I knew I'd seen that style before; Safari just needed a clean quit and reopening. It's back to normal now.

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There isn't much in terms of additional animations. But 10.9 is definitely a lot smoother than 10.8.x. In all areas as far as I can say. Multitasking is much smoother, Safari is virtually stutter-free, even when zooming into pages on the Retina display, everything is more responsive, memory-compression clearly reduces page-outs... it really feels like there is refinement everywhere. I normally do not upgrade production machines before a .2 or .3 release, but I am really tempted to install this beta. Of course, I won't... but I feel I could.

 

Good to know, an upgrade to look forward to 1biggrin.gif

 

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I sincerely hope that a Retina Air is not "a few years away"... I really want one!
 

Its gotta be at least a year away, they just updated the airs, a great update, but I'll wait & see how the rMBPs go.

between the current 13" (new) air & 13" pro, they each have their upsides, battery vs performance, if they give the 13" pro amazing crazy battery life, It makes the air a harder choice for me to make, its cheaper & slightly smaller.

 

Mavericks giving even 10% (at least) more battery life, is amazing, I really hope its noticeable. 

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Still no name change? Mavericks is just plain awful, unless they're releasing a sports team or using Tom Selleck's head as the new logo for Safari.

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Still no name change? Mavericks is just plain awful, unless they're releasing a sports team or using Tom Selleck's head as the new logo for Safari.

 

Honestly, the people who have a problem with the name need to begin associating images like this to "Mavericks":

 

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What about Apple would give you the idea that this would ever happen? Do you know Apple?
You've seen the comments when regular idiots get their hands on the DPs, right? You've seen the "complaints", right?
The level of ignorance out there is just amazing. People have no idea what a beta is or why Apple even asks developers to test their apps with the beta software.
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People today are too stupid to comprehend what they're doing even with RELEASE SOFTWARE. All I've seen is ruination of third-party developers' reputations by morons who don't know what iOS 7 and 10.9 are; imagine how that would change if it was PUBLIC!
The up unfortunate side effect of the Internet is that it gives a voice to anybody that can type. Worst yet these people supply the fuel to feed the minds of those ill equipped for rigorous thought. Apple looses in these two ways with more public betas.
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OS X worked as a public beta for many reasons, not the least of which Apple's situation at that time and their userbase being, what, I think it was more than 5x smaller than today.

If people really want to run these betas, something I don't recommend at all, they can sign up to become a developer. If you aren't up to that little adventure then maybe you shouldn't be whining about public betas. As an aside I've spent some time trying to development work against Apples betas, for me it wasn't worth the effort! If it isn't a shipping product I don't bother with it.
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Still no name change? Mavericks is just plain awful, unless they're releasing a sports team or using Tom Selleck's head as the new logo for Safari.

Get with the program, naming an OS after great surfing locations is far more interesting than naming the OS after big pussies. You might just want to spend a few minutes on the net becoming familiar with the location and why it is called Mavricks and more so why it has a reputation with surfers.
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Honestly, the people who have a problem with the name need to begin associating images like this to "Mavericks":

These are likely the same idiots that spoke out about the name iPad. It takes all of ten seconds these days to become familiar with Mavericks and the big waves there.

This might go over the heads of some but associating a major OS release with big waves is an interesting marketing strategy. Will Mavericks make big waves for Apple? From what I'm seeing it is a good association.
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These are likely the same idiots that spoke out about the name iPad. It takes all of ten seconds these days to become familiar with Mavericks and the big waves there.

This might go over the heads of some but associating a major OS release with big waves is an interesting marketing strategy. Will Mavericks make big waves for Apple? From what I'm seeing it is a good association.

 

I couldn't agree more.  And I had the same exact thought about the iPad, too.

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Sounds nice.

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mavericks is looking very stable.  Plop the 802.11ac performance fix in and lets go!  I feel like killing virtual cows :)

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Honestly, the people who have a problem with the name need to begin associating images like this to "Mavericks":

 

 

This is what's wrong with the name though.  The blanket assumption that this is a "good" image that everyone will "naturally" like.  I don't give a shite about California, surfing, or anything close to either.  

 

The only thing worse would be to name the OS's after American football leagues or put a giant f*cking American flag on the box with crossed six-guns or something.  

 

What it comes down to is really this:  

 

In almost every culture on earth, it's considered offensive to crow about yourself.  To say "Look at me, I'm the best!"  

Only in the USA is this considered a decent or good thing.  

 

That's why Mavericks is a bad name.  Because all it is to everyone else is that oh, so familiar American conceit rising to the surface.  In this case it's being thrown in our faces and will continue to be so for TEN YEARS.  We will now have to suffer each release of OS X, because each release will have some moniker that promotes the USA as the "greatest place on earth," "conquerer of the world" etc.  

 

If it were still the 1950's and thus true that "America leads the world" that would be one thing.  But it isn't.  

This is just the faded, collapsing empire trying to pretend that they are better than everyone else when they are not. 


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This is what's wrong with the name though.  The blanket assumption that this is a "good" image that everyone will "naturally" like.  I don't give a shite about California, surfing, or anything close to either.  

 

The only thing worse would be to name the OS's after American football leagues or put a giant f*cking American flag on the box with crossed six-guns or something.  

 

What it comes down to is really this:  

 

In almost every culture on earth, it's considered offensive to crow about yourself.  To say "Look at me, I'm the best!"  

Only in the USA is this considered a decent or good thing.  

 

That's why Mavericks is a bad name.  Because all it is to everyone else is that oh, so familiar American conceit rising to the surface.  In this case it's being thrown in our faces and will continue to be so for TEN YEARS.  We will now have to suffer each release of OS X, because each release will have some moniker that promotes the USA as the "greatest place on earth," "conquerer of the world" etc.  

 

If it were still the 1950's and thus true that "America leads the world" that would be one thing.  But it isn't.  

This is just the faded, collapsing empire trying to pretend that they are better than everyone else when they are not. 

If you hate America and Americans soooo much why buy Apple? "Designed by Apple in California"

That must really bother you..... I am sure to stick to your principals you are going to just not buy American then........ So much hate and resentment for a country and people....why would you buy products from them?

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That's why Mavericks is a bad name.  Because all it is to everyone else is that oh, so familiar American conceit rising to the surface.  In this case it's being thrown in our faces and will continue to be so for TEN YEARS.  We will now have to suffer each release of OS X, because each release will have some moniker that promotes the USA as the "greatest place on earth," "conquerer of the world" etc.  

 

If it were still the 1950's and thus true that "America leads the world" that would be one thing.  But it isn't.  

This is just the faded, collapsing empire trying to pretend that they are better than everyone else when they are not. 

 

A famous surfing location reference and you give us reference to a faded collapsing empire.  You are a loon.

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mavericks is looking very stable.  Plop the 802.11ac performance fix in and lets go!  I feel like killing virtual cows :)

 

I don't think its quite that ready as of yet. I still see bugs here and there that need to be fixed before it becomes GM status. 

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Sounds like OSX Mavericks is shaping up to be a better release then iOS 7.

 

Yeah I don't think so....

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This is what's wrong with the name though.  The blanket assumption that this is a "good" image that everyone will "naturally" like.  I don't give a shite about California, surfing, or anything close to either.  

 

The only thing worse would be to name the OS's after American football leagues or put a giant f*cking American flag on the box with crossed six-guns or something.  

 

What it comes down to is really this:  

 

In almost every culture on earth, it's considered offensive to crow about yourself.  To say "Look at me, I'm the best!"  

Only in the USA is this considered a decent or good thing.  

 

That's why Mavericks is a bad name.  Because all it is to everyone else is that oh, so familiar American conceit rising to the surface.  In this case it's being thrown in our faces and will continue to be so for TEN YEARS.  We will now have to suffer each release of OS X, because each release will have some moniker that promotes the USA as the "greatest place on earth," "conquerer of the world" etc.  

 

If it were still the 1950's and thus true that "America leads the world" that would be one thing.  But it isn't.  

This is just the faded, collapsing empire trying to pretend that they are better than everyone else when they are not. 

Alas,the product wasn't named for you... not for Americans,

It's named for the Apple employees.   This is about them making stuff _THEY_ like and THEY want to make for us.

(If I remember the keynote right, it won't be 'USA' places... it will be CALIFORNIA places)

Hence the "Designed by Apple in California' Ad.

 

(one could argue that Apple is trying to avoid the USA relationship, because everyone loves California;-)

 

Yes, it may be conceitful to consider the chosen few of Apple Employees when selecting a product name, but on the other hand, your view is antagonistic, to the point of trollworthy.

 

It's just a name.   I don't think they will even market it as such to the public, other than the 'Wave' Logo.  It's just the latest version of OSX... and unlike Microsoft, they don't have to market it, as they don't make money on the OS... just the hardware that it drives.   So, they don't give a F*ck on it's marketablilty (Vista?  LongHorn?  Metro?), because, no ad campaign will need to feature it... they don't need the lemmings to go out and buy box of Vista to make their quarterly earnings... they need people to embrace the apple ecosystem, buy the Point of Sale devices to the App/Music/Book/Movie/radio stores, and then the WiFi/backup server, then a TV attachment, then a stereo attachment (airport express), then iTunes Match....   None of that requires speaking of "the Mac OS that shall go nameless" ;-)

 

A rose by any other name.


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This is what's wrong with the name though.  The blanket assumption that this is a "good" image that everyone will "naturally" like.  I don't give a shite about California, surfing, or anything close to either.  

The only thing worse would be to name the OS's after American football leagues or put a giant f*cking American flag on the box with crossed six-guns or something.  

What it comes down to is really this:  

In almost every culture on earth, it's considered offensive to crow about yourself.  To say "Look at me, I'm the best!"  
Only in the USA is this considered a decent or good thing.  

That's why Mavericks is a bad name.  Because all it is to everyone else is that oh, so familiar American conceit rising to the surface.  In this case it's being thrown in our faces and will continue to be so for TEN YEARS.  We will now have to suffer each release of OS X, because each release will have some moniker that promotes the USA as the "greatest place on earth," "conquerer of the world" etc.  

If it were still the 1950's and thus true that "America leads the world" that would be one thing.  But it isn't.  
This is just the faded, collapsing empire trying to pretend that they are better than everyone else when they are not. 

Someone needs a hug.
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This is what's wrong with the name though.  The blanket assumption that this is a "good" image that everyone will "naturally" like.  I don't give a shite about California, surfing, or anything close to either.  

 

The only thing worse would be to name the OS's after American football leagues or put a giant f*cking American flag on the box with crossed six-guns or something.  

 

What it comes down to is really this:  

 

In almost every culture on earth, it's considered offensive to crow about yourself.  To say "Look at me, I'm the best!"  

Only in the USA is this considered a decent or good thing.  

 

That's why Mavericks is a bad name.  Because all it is to everyone else is that oh, so familiar American conceit rising to the surface.  In this case it's being thrown in our faces and will continue to be so for TEN YEARS.  We will now have to suffer each release of OS X, because each release will have some moniker that promotes the USA as the "greatest place on earth," "conquerer of the world" etc.  

 

If it were still the 1950's and thus true that "America leads the world" that would be one thing.  But it isn't.  

This is just the faded, collapsing empire trying to pretend that they are better than everyone else when they are not. 

 

I have to strongly disagree.  To think that Apple is praising themselves here seems particularly twisted to me.  There is a difference between pride and conceit, and I believe an homage to special nearby locales is a matter of the former.

 

Apple is not saying that this place Mavericks is the best place ever; they're saying that this place Mavericks is inspiring, it's a natural wonder that any human can appreciate.  If you can't look at waves like that and be awed, you've got bigger problems than "suffering each release of OS X."

 

edit: small typo

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This is what's wrong with the name though.  The blanket assumption that this is a "good" image that everyone will "naturally" like.  I don't give a shite about California, surfing, or anything close to either.  

 

The only thing worse would be to name the OS's after American football leagues or put a giant f*cking American flag on the box with crossed six-guns or something.  

 

What it comes down to is really this:  

 

In almost every culture on earth, it's considered offensive to crow about yourself.  To say "Look at me, I'm the best!"  

Only in the USA is this considered a decent or good thing.  

 

That's why Mavericks is a bad name.  Because all it is to everyone else is that oh, so familiar American conceit rising to the surface.  In this case it's being thrown in our faces and will continue to be so for TEN YEARS.  We will now have to suffer each release of OS X, because each release will have some moniker that promotes the USA as the "greatest place on earth," "conquerer of the world" etc.  

 

If it were still the 1950's and thus true that "America leads the world" that would be one thing.  But it isn't.  

This is just the faded, collapsing empire trying to pretend that they are better than everyone else when they are not. 

I also didn't know what Mavericks was when I first heard it (I knew little-m maverick meaning "an unconventional person," but not big-M Mavericks).

 

I think you're reading too much in to it. The people who make a thing should be able to name it, and if they name it after something/someplace meaningful to them or near to them it shouldn't be surprising at all.

 

Edit: and the USA is still #1 by the way: http://www.tradingeconomics.com

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...each release will have some moniker that promotes the USA as the "greatest place on earth," "conquerer of the world" etc.  

 

 

This is all in your mind. Mavericks is just a name, the image is probably meant to convey freedom and speed, and there is absolutely nothing even vaguely approaching "conquerer of the world".

 

Honestly, some anti-US hysteria has risen to be the international equivalent of Obama Derangement Syndrome. It's so overblown and detached from reality it has become a bad joke.

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Dude. Mavericks is a hallowed California surfing spot. In legend, a giant wave surfing spot kept a secret for years by a guy and his dog Maverick. It perfectly matches Apple's orientation to make great things in secrecy. It is awesome. In other words, the name Mavericks will not change.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

American conceit

I don't see you whining about cats.

Keep your crap in PO. At least there you'll be peeing in an ocean of it rather than on our carpets.

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

 

This is what's wrong with the name though.  The blanket assumption that this is a "good" image that everyone will "naturally" like.  I don't give a shite about California, surfing, or anything close to either.  

 

The only thing worse would be to name the OS's after American football leagues or put a giant f*cking American flag on the box with crossed six-guns or something.  

 

What it comes down to is really this:  

 

In almost every culture on earth, it's considered offensive to crow about yourself.  To say "Look at me, I'm the best!"  

Only in the USA is this considered a decent or good thing.  

 

That's why Mavericks is a bad name.  Because all it is to everyone else is that oh, so familiar American conceit rising to the surface.  In this case it's being thrown in our faces and will continue to be so for TEN YEARS.  We will now have to suffer each release of OS X, because each release will have some moniker that promotes the USA as the "greatest place on earth," "conquerer of the world" etc.  

 

If it were still the 1950's and thus true that "America leads the world" that would be one thing.  But it isn't.  

This is just the faded, collapsing empire trying to pretend that they are better than everyone else when they are not. 

 

Or most people, not knowing what Mavericks is supposed to be, won't associate it with the American "Empire" or anything else. They'll probably call it ten nine, or ten point nine.

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