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A new set of design schematics claimed to be for Apple's fifth-generation iPad show a design akin to the current iPad mini form factor.

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The documents, published by Nowhereelse.fr, show an iPad with a thinner profile than the current fourth-generation model. The unconfirmed drawings also show a next-generation iPad with a reduced width, presumably due to a thinner bezel outside of the 9.7-inch display.

Aside from sporting a larger display, the design appears to be based on the current iPad mini design, complete with rounded off back corners and a new speaker location facing downward rather than backward.

The document allegedly comes from an Apple subcontractor that is using the design to build the rear shell panel for Apple's next iPad.

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The schematics match up with earlier rumored details, leaked parts and third-party cases that have all been claimed to offer a glimpse at what Apple's next iPad will look like. The next-generation model is rumored to be 15 percent thinner and 33 percent lighter than the current fourth-generation model, and is expected to go on sale later this year.

However, it should be noted that leaked schematics have appeared in the past, claiming to show the design of a next-generation Apple product, only for those documents to prove incorrect. Most notably, case maker Hard Candy ordered $50,000 worth of steel moldings in 2011 based on a bogus "teardrop" iPhone design blueprint that was available online.
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hmmmm.....

 

It looks like a tablet.

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This new design is pretty much what I expect. According to the schematics it looks like the iPad 5 will be as thin as the Mini!

 

That's definitely an engineering feat (cue in Phil saying, "Can't innovate anymore my ass")!

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MOst notably, case maker Hard Candy ordered $50,000 worth of steel moldings in 2011 based on a bogus "teardrop" iPhone design.

 

Yes, MOst notably.

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I'm gonna jump ship and upgrade to the 5th gen iPad when it's released. That'll mean I had all 5 generations. This is becoming an addiction. Easily the best product I've ever owned in my life. And that included the iPhone 5, which is no slouch.

 

7.9 mm mean its exactly the same thickness as the mini. Along with the thinner bezels I'd say 430g to 445g sounds like a good weight guess. I'd be really interested to see how hot this baby will get, and exactly what real world battery life tests are compared to iPad 4.


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This is perfectly matches with the rumors and the case designs that it makes me hesitant to believe its true. Too convenient to pass around a rumor and then pass around 'proof'

A part of me doesn't doubt the basic shape being the same as the mini but due to the larger battery etc I can't buy into the thin part.

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Does this mean the mini will go retina then? If they can make a full size iPad thin and light like the mini then they should be able to add retina to the mini. Outside of battery life and thickness/weight concerns there's no reason the mini shouldn't be retina. It's a shame there are inferior tablets out there that have better displays than the mini. Hopefully Apple will fix that this year.
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I'm gonna jump ship and upgrade to the 5th gen iPad when it's released. That'll mean I had all 5 generations. This is becoming an addiction. Easily the best product I've ever owned in my life. And that included the iPhone 5, which is no slouch.

7.9 mm mean its exactly the same thickness as the mini. Along with the thinner bezels I'd say 430g to 445g sounds like a good weight guess. I'd be really interested to see how hot this baby will get, and exactly what real world battery life tests are compared to iPad 4.
If it gets too hot and has worse battery life I doubt it would ever see the light of day. But Bob Mansfield and his technologies group must be working on something. Perhaps this is it.
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I'm gonna jump ship and upgrade to the 5th gen iPad when it's released. That'll mean I had all 5 generations. This is becoming an addiction. Easily the best product I've ever owned in my life

 

I can't wait to upgrade also. I love everything about my iPad 3 except the weight.

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Only thing is, the bezel is useable. I find myself contacting the screen too much on my wife's mini. And you know what touching the screen on a touchscreen can do.

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Only thing is, the bezel is useable. I find myself contacting the screen too much on my wife's mini. And you know what touching the screen on a touchscreen can do.

There are parts of your wife's mini you should never touch! 1smile.gif

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I can't wait to upgrade also. I love everything about my iPad 3 except the weight.

Ditto. I sometimes rip the smart cover off to keep the carrying weight down. The iPad 2 had a more pleasant weight and thinness. I am looking forward to a smaller iPad 5. Not sure how I'll feel if it looks like a "giant iPad mini"...

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This is perfectly matches with the rumors and the case designs that it makes me hesitant to believe its true. Too convenient to pass around a rumor and then pass around 'proof'

A part of me doesn't doubt the basic shape being the same as the mini but due to the larger battery etc I can't buy into the thin part.

 

I would think if it was going to be a fake, that the fakers would make it exactly the same thickness as the mini though, whereas the numbers being passed around make it thicker than that, but still thinner than the old one.  Besides, it's just a few millimetres either way.  Seems believable to me.  

 

My main concern is the weight anyway.  The main reason people are ditching the full-sized iPad for the mini is the weight.  I'm hoping Apple isn't stupid enough to make the mini a retina if it adds any appreciable weight to the thing.  I will be buying a second hand iPad mini "1.0" if that's the case instead. 

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Only thing is, the bezel is useable. I find myself contacting the screen too much on my wife's mini. And you know what touching the screen on a touchscreen can do.

 

Everyone is different though.  I find that I would prefer if the side bezels on the mini were half their current size.  It would make it even easier to pick up and I can't remember ever inadvertently setting off the touch screen at all so far.  

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Does this mean the mini will go retina then? If they can make a full size iPad thin and light like the mini then they should be able to add retina to the mini. Outside of battery life and thickness/weight concerns there's no reason the mini shouldn't be retina. It's a shame there are inferior tablets out there that have better displays than the mini. Hopefully Apple will fix that this year.

 

Apple could slap an inferior hi-res display like those inferior tablets but I would rather they wait and get it right.

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Only thing is, the bezel is useable. I find myself contacting the screen too much on my wife's mini. And you know what touching the screen on a touchscreen can do.

 

Not saying this hasn't been an issue for you, however it hasn't once been a problem for my large hands using our iPad mini.

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post #17 of 37
I'm due for some kind of toy, and if this comes out before the iMac sees a refresh (or possibly 15" MBPr... kinda torn still) I might consider it, iff the mini stays at a low res. If the mini goes retina that would sway me in that direction.

You may all disagree as much as you like, but I'm not terribly pleased that Apple has started doing refreshes in parallel. If something new were released every few months it would keep Apple on everyone's radar, and each event wouldn't be such a "do or die" debacle.
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This is no surprise. Everybody knows that the iPad 5 will borrow design cues from the iPad Mini.

 

I currently have an iPad 3 and also an iPad Mini, and I'll be upgrading the iPad 3 to the iPad 5 for sure, I'll still keep the iPad Mini. I won't miss the big bezels one bit, nope. And I'm also not going to complain when I get my iPad 5 and it's both thinner and lighter than the current one that I have, not to mention more powerful.

 

The iPad Mini does have a great design, and the iPad 5 is going to be a big seller, because it will be the first large 9.7" iPad to be released that features this new design. I also like the all black back on the black iPad Mini. I would like to see the same on an iPad 5. 

post #19 of 37
It has a legend showing wifi and 3G. Shouldn't it be 4G for a new one? Or do we really think it won't have LTE?

Edit: it doesn't have speaker holes.
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This is perfectly matches with the rumors and the case designs that it makes me hesitant to believe its true. Too convenient to pass around a rumor and then pass around 'proof'

A part of me doesn't doubt the basic shape being the same as the mini but due to the larger battery etc I can't buy into the thin part.

I would tend to agree except for Apple's attention to detail and research on battery performance.


1. Neil Hughes. Published February 17, 2011. Apple looking to increase battery life with dense lithium cells. AppleInsider.

2. Mickey Campbell, Published May 02, 2013. Apple's research into curved battery technology points to new iOS products designs. AppleInsider
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Edit: it doesn't have speaker holes.

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I'm gonna jump ship and upgrade to the 5th gen iPad when it's released. That'll mean I had all 5 generations. This is becoming an addiction. Easily the best product I've ever owned in my life. And that included the iPhone 5, which is no slouch.

 

 

I know what you mean. The only iPad I do not have is the 4th Gen. one and that was because both, the iPhone 5 and the iPad Mini released around that time here in India. So now I have all generations of the iPhone and 3 generations of the iPad.

 

I keep wondering whether I should just buy the 4th Gen. iPad for completeness sake. I'm still contemplating!

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Why can't the bezel be asymmetric, fat on two sides so you can use in portrait or landscape one way, but with a totally grippable bezel.  Maybe that would require a left and and right hand version.  

 

It would be too un apple.   

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Apple could slap an inferior hi-res display like those inferior tablets but I would rather they wait and get it right.
So the Kindle Fire HD and Nook Color have inferior displays?
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As thin as the mini is amazing. Blow away the competition.
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Only thing is, the bezel is useable. I find myself contacting the screen too much on my wife's mini. And you know what touching the screen on a touchscreen can do.

You are holding it wrong.
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hmmmm.....

 

It looks like a tablet.

Or a kitchen tray.

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My main concern is the weight anyway.  The main reason people are ditching the full-sized iPad for the mini is the weight.  

Do we know that for a fact?

 

The size of the Mini fits better in purposes, labcoats and jacket pockets. 

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I would tend to agree except for Apple's attention to detail and research on battery performance.


1. Neil Hughes. Published February 17, 2011. Apple looking to increase battery life with dense lithium cells. AppleInsider.

2. Mickey Campbell, Published May 02, 2013. Apple's research into curved battery technology points to new iOS products designs. AppleInsider

The dense Li cells would make more sense in the context of a thinner iPad 5 than the curved battery. If they are ready with these new Li cells, then the chances of RD version of Mini arriving this year are not too bad.

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Do we know that for a fact?

 

The size of the Mini fits better in purposes, labcoats and jacket pockets. 

I'm sure those same people wouldn't want the Mini weighing down their purses, lab coats, or jackets.

 

The Mini is the perfect size and weight as is, and that experienced should not be hampered for the sake of a Retina screen. When Apple comes out with a Retina Mini it should retain all of it's desirable features such as lightweight and small form factor.

post #31 of 37

Drawings, not schematics.

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I'm sure those same people wouldn't want the Mini weighing down their purses, lab coats, or jackets.

 

The Mini is the perfect size and weight as is, and that experienced should not be hampered for the sake of a Retina screen. When Apple comes out with a Retina Mini it should retain all of it's desirable features such as lightweight and small form factor.

I don't disagree. What I disagree with is the sweeping declaration that weight is the main reason people prefer the Mini. It's hypocritical for us to criticize pundits for not publishing fact-based articles while constantly spouting opinions not based on facts.

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Originally Posted by rkevwill View Post

Only thing is, the bezel is useable. I find myself contacting the screen too much on my wife's mini. And you know what touching the screen on a touchscreen can do.

 

Two things: first, iOS 6 does more or less ignore inadvertent edge-touches.  Here's the AppleInsider story:

 

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/153703/advanced-software-helps-ipad-mini-ignore-unintended-touches-near-bezel

 

Also, the chamfering on the edge of on the iPad mini gives your thumb more friction.  It creates two slightly sharp edges that help you safely grip the iPad mini very close to the edge.  Here's an experiment.  Hold your iPad mini one-handed, thumb on bezel, over some kind of soft padding.  See how far you can move your thumb off the screen without dropping it.  Now try the same thing with the iPad mini screen-down so your thumb is on the rounded back edge.  You can't move your thumb as close to the edge without dropping the iPad mini.  (I told you to hold it over some kind of padding!)

 

I expect the iPad 5 to have similar chamfering, for increased grip, if its bezel is narrower.

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So AI, you have to document, what's the actual dimensions?  We know it's going to be thinner.  everyone keeps saying It will be narrower and shorter.  So, what's the document say?  These photos are too bury to see, do you have any better images?  We would put a lot of rumors to bed if we had that info.  You have the doc, what does it say?

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it's interesting that the iPad doesn't seem to so any signs of a "tick-tock" form-factor or release schedule.  The initial form factor lasted a year, but he 2nd lasted for 3 generations.  I wonder if Apple is going with the Macbook method of design releases.  That would make a lot of sence since it is a premium product and it's not a subsidized product.  Sure, you geeks out there upgrade once every generation but most people will probably upgrade every 3rd or 4th.  I have the iPad 2.  Got it replaced (for free thanks to Apple Care) 3 times and honestly, I probably won't upgrade until perhaps the iPad 6.  If i really can't stand the weight anymore (which is my only complaint) I might upgrade to the 5 earlier than expected...or, if iOS7 is sluggish or had reduced features on the iPad 2 then I'll upgrade.  But As I see it now, I'm happy with the non-retina ipad 2 and see not reason currently to upgrade it.

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it's interesting that the iPad doesn't seem to so any signs of a "tick-tock" form-factor or release schedule.  The initial form factor lasted a year, but he 2nd lasted for 3 generations.  I wonder if Apple is going with the Macbook method of design releases.  That would make a lot of sence since it is a premium product and it's not a subsidized product.  Sure, you geeks out there upgrade once every generation but most people will probably upgrade every 3rd or 4th.  I have the iPad 2.  

Most here do not qualify as geeks.

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Does this mean the mini will go retina then? If they can make a full size iPad thin and light like the mini then they should be able to add retina to the mini. Outside of battery life and thickness/weight concerns there's no reason the mini shouldn't be retina. It's a shame there are inferior tablets out there that have better displays than the mini. Hopefully Apple will fix that this year.
Main thing probably holding the mini off is price ($) a retina that thin will be costly espically when it might cost half the devices budget, vs the full size IPad having it in double price and easier specs.
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