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I know you've always acted like kind of a d1ck, but really? You actually want thousands of people unemployed simply because they make a competing product? (And yes, I do believe you were serious with your comment.)
I know quite a few people with the means to purchase any phone they wish who purchased an Android phone instead of an iPhone. And they're all much more mentally stable than I am (who owns an iPhone). Of course they're all IT people with the ability to judge tech products better than the average consumer (or rabid Apple fan).

 

Regarding the going out of business comment, absolutely, yes of course I mean that. There are always casualties in business. I do not care if people lose their jobs. I actually wish for it.

 

I also don't put much stock into what many "IT" people say or think, and I actually don't really think that many of them have any clue. IT people are the exact type of people that were too stupid to recognize how great the iPad was for example, when it was released. IT people do not set trends or have any influence on what phones sell well, average consumers do. IT people are irrelevant. If it were up to IT people, then iOS devices would not have made such inroads into business as they have. 

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Such a dangerous mentality.  Despite your bong clouded assessment, there will always be a large group of people that will continue buying non-Apple devices regardless of what "cheap" stuff Apple can throw at them.  You should be more thankful for competition, otherwise there would have been no advancement in the software and hardware for the past several years.

 

As for your reaction to the rumored casing: obviously biased.  You'd be blasting the hell out of it were any other company's.  I'm guessing the Kool-Aid is preventing some people from seeing that this design is a blast from the distant past.

 

I don't agree with the myth being floated around that less competition equals less innovation. I am fine with less competition.

 

And my reaction is not just about the rumored casing, because inside that casing, it will be running iOS 7, and that is what is going to make many people want to buy this cheaper iPhone. It's not just about the casing, but rather, what is inside of that casing and the ecosystem that comes with that casing.

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What's interesting is how a few dollars' difference in case materials is seen by some people as the primary difference between "cheap" and "high end", even if the internals stayed the same.

 

If that were the only difference, then people will really start wondering why they should pay hundreds extra for some glass and aluminum that they usually buy another protective case for, anyway.

 

So it seems like that there would be more differences to lower the build price.  Anyone have some guesses or suggestions as to what they might be?  

 

Obviously, less memory and a slower CPU is one possibility.  Would they also go backwards with the display, or is that not a possibility? 

 

Thoughts?

 

I don't believe that the differences in cost would be as insignificant as most might think. Apple is using new high precision manufacturing to build the iPhone 5. Whatever techniques are being used I'm sure they're much more costly than plastic molding, which has been in use for many, many years.

 

I agree though, it's not enough to drop costs to levels people are predicting. I don't think the internals will be THAT much different, but I would guess, 3G only, A5 SoC, 8GB storage, 512MB RAM, and limited software features as well (no Siri, AirDrop, etc.), including an extremely limited AppStore, if one at all (huge opportunity for up-selling later). It would still have access to iTunes though, for content sales.

 

Display would remain Retina (iOS 7 makes extensive use of the higher density) but probably not the same display.

 

My guess anyway.

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post #84 of 155

I think a lot of the usual suspects here will change their tune on the colors when they see the 4Q earnings report and stock price. Sure, the colors are not tech-geek friendly, but then again, color never is. The muted colors are really the only way Apple could have gone, the Nokia Lumia's bright color scheme quickly looks cheap, while these are a bit more sophisticated.

 

While I think the black and white versions of these are going to far outsell the yellow and green ones, I will tell you right now that this will be the highest selling iPhone model in Apple history. It would have been ridiculous to try and sell the 5 with aluminum body as the discount model once the 4 and 4s were discontinued. This makes all the sense in the world and reassures me that Tim on the ball.

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that's a matter of personal preference I guess.

 

Not entirely.  

 

- outside of Heavy Metal bands, designers have traditionally always considered the black & red combination,  "tacky."  

- black & yellow has also traditionally been considered garish, which is why black and yellow stripes are used for "warning" signs. 

 

The intense contrast when black is used together with a bright primary colour is what makes these combinations "pop" for the average person, but the same reason why artists and designers generally avoid them, because they are sort of an assault on the eyeballs in general.  

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Such a dangerous mentality.  Despite your bong clouded assessment, there will always be a large group of people that will continue buying non-Apple devices regardless of what "cheap" stuff Apple can throw at them.  You should be more thankful for competition, otherwise there would have been no advancement in the software and hardware for the past several years.

As for your reaction to the rumored casing: obviously biased.  You'd be blasting the hell out of it were any other company's.  I'm guessing the Kool-Aid is preventing some people from seeing that this design is a blast from the distant past.

Ok to your first point, second not so much.

It's a different shape, see? Shape is a very big deal. No one has done this shape in plastic before, as far as I know.
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I think a lot of the usual suspects here will change their tune on the colors when they see the 4Q earnings report and stock price. Sure, the colors are not tech-geek friendly, but then again, color never is. The muted colors are really the only way Apple could have gone, the Nokia Lumia's bright color scheme quickly looks cheap, while these are a bit more sophisticated.

While I think the black and white versions of these are going to far outsell the yellow and green ones, I will tell you right now that this will be the highest selling iPhone model in Apple history. It would have been ridiculous to try and sell the 5 with aluminum body as the discount model once the 4 and 4s were discontinued. This makes all the sense in the world and reassures me that Tim on the ball.

Your line of thinking on this 5S-vs.-5plastic question, and its success, makes a lot of sense to me.
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These are the iPhone 5 when the 5s is released.
There is absolutely no way, no way, Apple will ever downgrade an existing model and call it the same thing.
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Not entirely.  

 

- outside of Heavy Metal bands, designers have traditionally always considered the black & red combination,  "tacky."  

- black & yellow has also traditionally been considered garish, which is why black and yellow stripes are used for "warning" signs. 

 

The intense contrast when black is used together with a bright primary colour is what makes these combinations "pop" for the average person, but the same reason why artists and designers generally avoid them, because they are sort of an assault on the eyeballs in general.  


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- outside of Heavy Metal bands, designers have traditionally always considered the black & red combination,  "tacky."  

 

 

I remember the Apple U2 iPod, that was black & red.

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Ok, I think that if they make this into the new iPhone5 for the budget-conscious, it will be the same dimensions and internals of the existing iPhone 5.  The reason for that is there is minimal amount of engineering that will be required to make that happen.  That way they can put the higher spec-ed items into the iPhone 5s.  I do not think that they will make it with the smaller screen (like the 4/4S), and I don't think that they will make it without a Retina Display. They have put way too much marketing and effort to popularize their version of the 4" screen.

 

Now, I think that they may try to do this:

 

Candy-Colored iPhone 5: ($399 unsubsidized, Free with 2 year contract)

16GB Storage

A6 Processor

Retina Display

Thunderbolt

5 colors

 

iPhone 5S: ($649/$749/$849 unsubsidized, $199/$299/$399 with 2 year contract)

32/64/128GB Storage

Dual Core A6X

Retina Display

Thunderbolt

Universal (like the 4S was)

etc.

 

The only reason why I bumped up the storage amount is because as more and more apps consume more space, more space is needed to have it all on your phone. After all, they now offer a 128GB version of the iPad, so why not on the iPhone 5S?

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post #92 of 155
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There is absolutely no way, no way, Apple will ever downgrade an existing model and call it the same thing.

 

"The colorful new iPhone 5", yeah I can see it. It has a nice ring to it too. And it doesn't come off as a downgrade, but as an added feature.

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Ok, I think that if they make this into the new iPhone5 for the budget-conscious, it will be the same dimensions and internals of the existing iPhone 5.  The reason for that is there is minimal amount of engineering that will be required to make that happen.  That way they can put the higher spec-ed items into the iPhone 5s.  I do not think that they will make it with the smaller screen (like the 4/4S), and I don't think that they will make it without a Retina Display. They have put way too much marketing and effort to popularize their version of the 4" screen.

Now, I think that they may try to do this:

Candy-Colored iPhone 5: ($399 unsubsidized, Free with 2 year contract)
16GB Storage
A6 Processor
Retina Display
Thunderbolt
5 colors

iPhone 5S: ($649/$749/$849 unsubsidized, $199/$299/$399 with 2 year contract)
32/64/128GB Storage
Dual Core A6X
Retina Display
Thunderbolt
Universal (like the 4S was)
etc.

The only reason why I bumped up the storage amount is because as more and more apps consume more space, more space is needed to have it all on your phone. After all, they now offer a 128GB version of the iPad, so why not on the iPhone 5S?

How are they going to shave $150 off the price of the iPhone 5 assuming it would have been sold for $549 this year.

I don't think a plastic case alone will be enough to justify the discount.
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How are they going to shave $150 off the price of the iPhone 5 assuming it would have been sold for $549 this year.

I don't think a plastic case alone will be enough to justify the discount.

 

So are you suggesting they keep it intact with the expensive return prone aluminum case and sell it at a discount now that the iPhone 4 4s is discontinued? What other options are there? The iPhone 4s has run it's course as the discount model.

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Does nobody else notice the letter "D" scrawled on the internal metal plate, visible on the blue and green models?
What could the "D" stand for?
Delete
Discontinued
Discard
Defective
Destroy
Dummy
Decoy
Distraction
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post #96 of 155
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How are they going to shave $150 off the price of the iPhone 5 assuming it would have been sold for $549 this year.

I don't think a plastic case alone will be enough to justify the discount.

 

Actually, that is even simpler than it sounds.  Part of that cost is the engineering costs that went into making that phone.  Those costs are no longer there (or dramatically reduced) since it is a known and setup process.  Then you have the reduction of costs for the backing.  The current iP5 has that full metallic body that takes a lot to mill down into the right shape.  This new one looks to be a molded plastic chassis, which is a whole lot simpler to produce both in scale and speed.  So the combination of both of those factors is why I think they could bring it down to the price point I suggest.

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post #97 of 155
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So are you suggesting they keep it intact with the expensive return prone aluminum case and sell it at a discount now that the iPhone 4 4s is discontinued? What other options are there? The iPhone 4s has run it's course as the discount model.

I'm more or less suggesting that switching to a plastic case alone won't reduce the price 30-40%.

I'd rather Apple retain their margins than giving these plastic phones away.
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I'm more or less suggesting that switching to a plastic case alone won't reduce the price 30-40%.

I'd rather Apple retain their margins than giving these plastic phones away.

 

I agree. And I think the redesigned plastic iPhone 5 will do just that. These will not be "cheap" as they have stated time and again.

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Actually, that is even simpler than it sounds.  Part of that cost is the engineering costs that went into making that phone.  Those costs are no longer there (or dramatically reduced) since it is a known and setup process.  Then you have the reduction of costs for the backing.  The current iP5 has that full metallic body that takes a lot to mill down into the right shape.  This new one looks to be a molded plastic chassis, which is a whole lot simpler to produce both in scale and speed.  So the combination of both of those factors is why I think they could bring it down to the price point I suggest.

Well Apple will have to make all new dedicated lines to produce these plastic phones so it's not like there is no added manufacturing cost for these. An with the colors there are different dye processes that add complexity.

I agree the cost of production and simplicity would be better than the 5 but I still don't see the massive 30-40% reduction on the end price without other features or specs being reduced a bit. But we'll see what happens I guess.

Tim Cook is the supply chain master so he's probably more than smart enough to figure out how Apple can make a reduced price phone and still make a profit on it.
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Such a dangerous mentality.  Despite your bong clouded assessment, there will always be a large group of people that will continue buying non-Apple devices regardless of what "cheap" stuff Apple can throw at them.  You should be more thankful for competition, otherwise there would have been no advancement in the software and hardware for the past several years.

As for your reaction to the rumored casing: obviously biased.  You'd be blasting the hell out of it were any other company's.  I'm guessing the Kool-Aid is preventing some people from seeing that this design is a blast from the distant past.

 

Your comment is an insult to bong users....  ...who on the whole are in no way as aggressive, angry, mean-spirited and purposefully tweaky as this dude....  ...he's much more "methy."

 

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The current iphone display, while being of good quality, is very low tech. The new AMOLED, OLED, super LCD and IGZO screens now offer the same color quality for lower power consomption. So I am hoping the new high end phone will move to a more modern screen tech and the current screens will be used on the low cost phones. I dont see Apple going with a lower resolution phone than this. They could also keep the current A6 on that thing. The screen and the A6 capacity are all in place. imo the current iphone 5 model will be discontinued when the new model launches. Apple needs to cut on the components that drive the price up and hurts there margins. what will it be is a good question.

 

Not AMOLED or OLED at least.  Apple's current screens are all battery friendly to the new oh-so-much white iOS 7 but would be a huge drain on the screen tech in the Galaxy (and other Android) lines.  One Mac columnist claims that's one of the reasons Apple chose the new design direction:  i.e., the makers of all those "higher than Retina" screens won't be able to duplicate the look and feel with anything close to the same battery life....

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So are you suggesting they keep it intact with the expensive return prone aluminum case and sell it at a discount now that the iPhone 4 4s is discontinued? What other options are there? The iPhone 4s has run it's course as the discount model.

Return prone?

The 5 will be 100 with a contract. The 4S will be free with contract. the all new colorful iPhone 4 will be 300-400, off contract.
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The "cheap" new iPhone isn't going to be cheap. It exists to move the entire lineup to 4" screen and lightning connector and will put the iPhone 4 and 4S out to pasture.

I predict the new lineup will be iPhone 5S, iPhone 5, iPhone 5L at exactly the same price points the 5, 4S and 4 sell for today. If there are multiple colours it will create an illusion of choice for customers who'll no longer be able to choose the iPhone 4 styling or different screen size.

Apple has for months required all apps to support 640x1136 and is pushing very hard for developers to exclusively target iOS 7. They're waving the fact that 93% of App Store customers are on iOS 6 now as proof developers can ignore iOS 6 in any new or updated apps.

I believe Apple is trying to banish 320x480 and 640x960 to the history books so everyone can focus on a single screen size like they did in the early iPhone days. If you're developing for Android you have to contend with a matrix of screen sizes and pixel densities. Although Apple offers rudimentary auto-layout capabilities they would rather see designers target a fixed screen size with a pixel perfect UI. Having just one screen resolution on all iPhones makes it more likely that developers will take the time to create just such a UI.

Banishing the 3.5" screen also makes it more likely that we'll see an iPhone in 2014 with a new screen resolution. I still don't think Apple wants to make two different sizes of iPhone, but as long as 3.5" hangs around we'll never see anything new.
post #103 of 155

Fake.

 

The Apple logo is a flat black and there is no FCC or "designed by Apple" text. This just looks like cheap parts somebody manufactured themselves. So far I am not buying into the rumored iPhone Lite even exists. I suspect there will just be an iPhone 5S and nothing more.

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The all white version of this iPhone would sell like a monster at $400-450

 

Same specs as the current 5th Gen iPod Touch is my prediction.

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"The colorful new iPhone 5", yeah I can see it. It has a nice ring to it too. And it doesn't come off as a downgrade, but as an added feature.

 

I dont want to enter the name fetish war, but imo they are not going to call this the iphone 5, even if they discontinu the 5 and replace it with this.

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How are they going to shave $150 off the price of the iPhone 5 assuming it would have been sold for $549 this year.

I don't think a plastic case alone will be enough to justify the discount.

 

Well, the combination of the cheaper plastic case and the re-used of the same assembly line is lowering the cost quite a bit. That being said, they will probably change other internals too, like cameras maybe or cheaper memory.


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Not AMOLED or OLED at least.  Apple's current screens are all battery friendly to the new oh-so-much white iOS 7 but would be a huge drain on the screen tech in the Galaxy (and other Android) lines.  One Mac columnist claims that's one of the reasons Apple chose the new design direction:  i.e., the makers of all those "higher than Retina" screens won't be able to duplicate the look and feel with anything close to the same battery life....

indeed.  They could used super LCD or IGZO. IGZO is by far the best tech, if they ever used it.  I am being convinced the new iOS 7 look may be a way to avoid getting duplicated by android, since a lot of android phones are on oled and amoled.

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Return prone?

The 5 will be 100 with a contract. The 4S will be free with contract. the all new colorful iPhone 4 will be 300-400, off contract.

 

I am very confident all the 3.5" screen phones will be discontinued. We will see.

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If Apple has decided to release a version of the iPhone for more budget minded people, then it would be pretty dumb to expect the same quality materials found in the regular iPhone to be present in the budget iPhone. And there will no doubt be other compromises made, but if anybody has any complaints at all about this budget iPhone, then you can simply pay more and buy the regular iPhone and quit your whining.

 

Apple won't make anything other then a high quality iPhone. That would undermine their brand. What I expect is they will add something to their current iPhone 5 that is unique and highly desirable and let the iPhone lite satisfy most or all of the iPhone 5 specs. My first guess would be that the iPhone 5s will have fingerprint recognition so they would be a total brick if stolen. Also, the 5s could have more RAM than currently and a faster CPU, leaving the Lite iPhone using the current CPU chip and topping out at less memory. 

 

In summery, the cheep iPhone will be as good as the current iPhone 5 and in the plastic case, and the 5s looking like the old iPhone 5 but having the new and improved CPU chip and some other added security goodies. This could be the inception of a consumer product and an enterprise product fork...

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I am very confident all the 3.5" screen phones will be discontinued. We will see.

The 3.5" also has the old pre-lightning connector. Consider the size and connector "history."

 

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"The colorful new iPhone 5", yeah I can see it. It has a nice ring to it too. And it doesn't come off as a downgrade, but as an added feature.

 

I see the slogan as "All the features of the iPhone 5 at a new low price." The new 5s will be the phone for the celebs, dignitaries, and the wannabe hanger-ons. 

 

Watch for it to show up in selfies by Miley, Amanda Bynes, and other over-sexed over-the-hill brainless ex-celebs.

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Actually I think it will be vastly important to call it the iPhone 5 because the blogasphere is already trying their lazy darndest to label it as "the cheap" iPhone. It needs to be reminded that it is merely the high quality iPhone 5 in a colorful case. It will jack that meme and stop it in it's tracks. It will be much harder for the sensationalism based "hit" dependent bloggers to attach the "cheap" label to the iPhone 5 regardless if it is encased in a plastic case. They'll try of course, but it would be lame and wouldn't have the impact.

 

Calling it the "iPhone lite" or any other such nonsense would marginalize the brand in my opinion.
 


Edited by Ingela - 7/3/13 at 4:37pm
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What's interesting is how a few dollars' difference in case materials is seen by some people as the primary difference between "cheap" and "high end", even if the internals stayed the same.

If that were the only difference, then people will really start wondering why they should pay hundreds extra for some glass and aluminum that they usually buyanother protective case for, anyway.
 
Indeed. Very good point. But that perhaps is the common perception that Apple is counting on. In other words, if a difference of material is of material difference in perceived value, then they will minimize "cannibalization" of the flagship iPhone.
 
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So it seems like that there would be more differences to lower the build price.  Anyone have some guesses or suggestions as to what they might be?  

Obviously, less memory and a slower CPU is one possibility.  Would they also go backwards with the display, or is that not a possibility? 

Thoughts?
 

They charge $229 for an iPod Touch with 4" RetDisp, no rear iSight camera, 16GB and A5, and add $70 for an iSight camera and a second 16 GB. We can guess how much extra Apple might charge for the LTE chipset (or perhaps 3G?).

 

On the other hand, if the intended markets are India and Africa, then RetDisp and LTE can definitely be dropped.

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I really like the current iPod nano design, I would like it if it were maybe made 3 inch (also making back bigger) for enough room for wifi and cellular chips (apple could probably get a 3G chip in there). Also adding the cameras to both.

So we have iPhone 5s and iPhone nano

Contract Price $650, $250 keeping all current features (except iPhone nano and iPod nano get App Store).
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I remember the Apple U2 iPod, that was black & red.

 

Exactly. 1hmm.gif


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Does nobody else notice the letter "D" scrawled on the internal metal plate, visible on the blue and green models?
What could the "D" stand for?
Delete
Discontinued
Discard
Defective
Destroy
Dummy
Decoy
Distraction
?

 

I didn't see the "D" but if it was there, it stands for 'discard' of course.  

Real parts are all counted and watched, one of the traditional ways to steal parts from a factory to gain internet fame would be to steal a discard. 

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No need to buy a cheap $10 phone case for one of these since the whole back of the phone now looks like a cheap Chinese case.
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The all white version of this iPhone would sell like a monster at $400-450

 

Same specs as the current 5th Gen iPod Touch is my prediction.

 

I agree except for the price point.  $400-$450 is waaaay too much.  

 

There's not much point in taking the superb iPhone 5, cheapening it up like a cheap whore, and then selling it for only slightly less.  It has to be significantly cheaper to drive sales.  

 

I mean how do you sell that?  "It looks bargain basement and it has lesser capabilities but it's (slightly) cheaper?"  Why would anyone buy that?  Also, the whole point is to get more people to walk into an Apple store and pick one up off-contract.  The price has to be something that someone would go for off-contract, not something that would be slightly cheaper on-contract. 

 

$299 or it isn't worth the trouble.  

$200 if they can do it. 

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I agree except for the price point.  $400-$450 is waaaay too much.  

There's not much point in taking the superb iPhone 5, cheapening it up like a cheap whore, and then selling it for only slightly less.  It has to be significantly cheaper to drive sales.  

I mean how do you sell that?  "It looks bargain basement and it has lesser capabilities but it's (slightly) cheaper?"  Why would anyone buy that?  Also, the whole point is to get more people to walk into an Apple store and pick one up off-contract.  The price has to be something that someone would go for off-contract, not something that would be slightly cheaper on-contract. 

$299 or it isn't worth the trouble.  
$200 if they can do it. 

If Apple can get into that price bracket without sacrificing margins or quality, they could literally double or triple their global market share overnight.

We'll see what trade offs Apple makes for the low cost phone. I'm hoping for something more polished than what we have seen.

What if they had an iPhone 1ish design with colored aluminum and a white or colored plastic window on the bottom for the wireless radios?

That might look more high end than these plastic so called leaks.
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While the hues are a little too neon for my tastes I'll reserve judgment until I see them in person. Overall the product does look great and will appeal to a different market than the flagship models.
 
These would basically replace the iphone 4S in September's lineup. Since these are "new" models it will be easier to market them than the iPhone 4S, which is 2 years old in September. They will be thinner, lighter and have a 4" screen so are also a better phone than the 4S, despite the plastic enclosure. The plastic will mean broader manufacturing tolerances and less scuff damage. I'd expect to see many of them used without a protective case.
 
There will be one capacity (16 GB) to simplify inventory management and minimise canabalisation of the iPhone 5S. The latter will still have enough premium features to justify its cost. Aside from the dual color flash, improved camera, new generation CPU and extended battery life I think it will shift to 32GB, 64GB and 128GB capacities.
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I am hoping this is the low end phone, the 5s will be the high end of the middle range, and that we will see a bigger screen phone at the high end.

 

Why would Apple provide a bigger screen iPhone at this point ?
 
  1. 5-inch (or larger) screens provide a horrible single-handed experience for the majority of users.
  2. Tasks which require a large surface area are already better serviced by an iPad.
  3. Apple is making an effort to standardise every other device in this form factor to 4-inches.
 
Android phablet users don't really benefit from the increased display area because app developers have to code for the lowest common denominator on that platform. Facebook et al can afford to optimise, but most can't. Just travel on public transport and see people with small hands lugging around ridiculously sized phones just to play freemium games where the playing area takes up less than a third of the screen, surrounded by a static border. 
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