Originally Posted by matrix07
C'mon. We all see this before. Big number when they want to hype something then the number for a full quarter didn't match those initial spectacular numbers. Or are you easily fooled by Samsung?
Originally Posted by genovelle
They don't report them because they get them to hold them forever. They don't report what they actually sell in any month so they can easily make arrangements with the vendors to give them away at a greatly reduced price with the purchase of another Samsung phone.
No. What we have seen before, again and again, is that when a company "ships" but doesn't sell, they have to write down the inventory soon after. This is true even if they sell them at reduced prices or if they give them away. Ask RIM. Ask HP. Not only have we not seen write downs or significant reduced margins reported by Samsung, we have seen them report record profits. It is consistently estimated that Samsung is the "other" company making a good profit off smartphones.
If you want to believe the entire industry is conspiring to help Samsung perpetuate false numbers, then I cannot help you. Furthermore, Apple also reports shipment numbers. But how they report them is more transparent than how others do. If you don't understand this, you really are ill-prepared to debate.
Just because another company is succeeding doesn't take the shine off Apple which, by the way, doesn't need misguided amateurs to defend their honor.
Apple is a highly successful company. So is Samsung. That's a fact.
Edited by stelligent - 7/3/13 at 8:45pm