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Apple on Wednesday began rolling out iWork for iCloud in beta form to existing users, bringing the suite of productivity software online to a wider audience, including some non-developers.

Update: It appears that Apple is expanding beta invites to free tier developers, previous reports of public access were likely erroneous as the company has confirmed to The Next Web that non-developers cannot sign in to the suite.

iWork for iCloud


The company sent out emails to registered developers, inviting them to try out the latest version of the Web-based service, though AppleInsider has received unverified reports that non-developers are also allowed to sign in to beta.icloud.com so long as they have an active Apple ID.

Developers have had access to the beta since Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference, where iWork for iCloud was first announced.

As previously outlined in June, iWork for iCloud offers access to Pages, Numbers and Keynote in an experience optimized for Web browsers. The service is compatible with Safari, Chrome or Internet Explorer.

A quick run through of the service shows all of the promised features to be intact, including Microsoft Word document imports.

Apple's iWork for iCloud is still missing some major features that competitors like Google Docs have long provided to users, such as dynamic collaboration tools, but overall the suite is one of the more robust Web productivity suites available.
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Played around with Pages and Keynote. Seems fairly stable and fast... a lot of features still need to be added, even got a dialog saying that the Keynote document was created on a Mac and the current iCloud beta didn't support them. Asked if I wanted to open a copy or open original. Nice.

Can't wait to see the finished apps though... they look really good so far.
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I'm confused. I thought Pages already synced with all devices, and Mac. Just read the beta link but as I am already on iCloud, didn't go further.

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Played around with Pages and Keynote. Seems fairly stable and fast... a lot of features still need to be added, even got a dialog saying that the Keynote document was created on a Mac and the current iCloud beta didn't support them. Asked if I wanted to open a copy or open original. Nice.

Can't wait to see the finished apps though... they look really good so far.

Have they added slide animations or builds?

 

I can't find them :(

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Have they added slide animations or builds?

 

I can't find them :(

 

Yes... Click on a slide on the left... the tool pane on the right changes to "Slide Transition"

 

By the way, press escape to get out of play mode.

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I'm confused. I thought Pages already synced with all devices, and Mac. Just read the beta link but as I am already on iCloud, didn't go further.

 

The big deal here isn't iCloud.  It's that you can now use the iWork apps via the browser on all platforms (and have documents sync via iCloud as usual).  Which, once all the features are in, makes iWork a viable alternative to MS Office in mixed platform environments.

 
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No joy here at work using Win7 and ie 8. All iCloud apps reporting errors before they can open.

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No joy here at work using Win7 and ie 8. All iCloud apps reporting errors before they can open.

 

I'm guessing you'll need a recent version of Chrome or Firefox on Windows.  IE tends to lag far behind in supporting newer web technologies.

 
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I believe (once beta is over) that they intend to support Safari, Chrome (probably just about any webkit browser?) and Internet Explorer.

Looks like I can use ALL the online apps, even ones I never bought. Very nice free bonus! (But I wonder if they'll stay free after beta or not.)
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I believe (once beta is over) that they intend to support Safari, Chrome (probably just about any webkit browser?) and Internet Explorer.

 

Back to what version of IE though?  Doubtful they'd support back to IE 8 unless they're masochistic.

 
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Have they added slide animations or builds?

 

I can't find them :(

Builds are not present, even on existing docs in iCloud. Nor is video playback (I have a presentation with some builds and an embedded video I tested)

 

This is, IMO, a better implementation than google docs or Office 365 on the web. Very fast.

 

For those who have access, had you previously used the iWork.com beta a couple years back? I had a few docs I had shared about 18 months ago. Just wondering if that is who they allowed as non-developers?

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Back to what version of IE though?  Doubtful they'd support back to IE 8 unless they're masochistic.
If a browser supports WebKit it works, otherwise it never will.
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non developers who are beta testers on OSX are able to get on the iCloud beta
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I tried to sign up, but got the message that is was for Devs only. I did do the iwork.com beta previously, so that's not it. Either they turned it on by accident and turned it back off, or they are rolling it out in some fashion.
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When this is ready for public use, Uncle Fester's cash cow will be slaughtered. 

 

Yes, I know, I know, MS Office does a lot more than iWorks, but if iWorks does most of what people use Office for, then it's good enough to replace 80% to 90% of Office installations. The big "PLUS" being that one doesn't have to use the buggy damn MS product!

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If a browser supports WebKit it works, otherwise it never will.

 

Not to be a dick or anything, but it's really not that difficult to do a little research.

 

Apple's iWork for iCloud page specifically states which browsers are currently compatible with the beta;

 

Safari 6.0.3

Chrome 27.0.1

Internet Explorer 9.0.8

 

...it also says, "Support for additional browsers" will be coming soon.

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Has anyone tested the MS Office comparability yet? I have heard that previous versions of iWork were hit and miss formatting-wise.
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Tried it with my regular icloud account.  Pulled in my existing Pages documents. Dragged and dropped in a Word doc from my office Win XP desktop.  Opened with all formatting in place.  Will be a big selling point fro next gen iPad and Iphone if offered as a freebie. For 90% of MS Word users, this app would would be as useful as Office 360. MS cash flow gusher is at risk from this and Google docs and Open Offcie IMO. MSFT relies on the office cash cow.  Ever since Office 2007 (PC), I have found it to be a pain to use.

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I was already signed into my iCloud account.  Then when I opened beta.icloud.com, the desktop just showed up with the iWork apps icon.  Cliecked onpages and there are all my existing docs.  Doing it with Chrome on a Win XP PC.

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Has anyone tested the MS Office comparability yet? I have heard that previous versions of iWork were hit and miss formatting-wise.

 

All office apps are hit or miss when it comes to Office for Windows compatibility (Even Office for Mac). Microsoft purposely made their court mandated Open Office Document Format overly complex and able to contain "binary" data that may or may not be proprietary. This is their way of being "open", but still keep users tied to Windows.

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...Will be a big selling point fro next gen iPad and Iphone if offered as a freebie...

 

iOS devices cannot access the iCloud web pages (other than system status page). Users are directed to download and install the native apps.

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IE9 is the earliest you can use I believe although IE10 is pretty much guaranteed to run due to its HTML5 support.

 

I played with this yesterday for about 10 minutes because I was at work at the time. I LOVE it. I know it's in beta and so a lot of functionality is missing such as lack of tables in Pages but what is here makes Google Docs and Skydrive look like a complete joke.

 

I'm going to play with my Numbers spreadsheet to see how it pans out because there are a few things I use in that that I don't know whether they've translated but holy cow Apple have done a stunner with what they have pulled off.

 

In the small amount of time I played with it I had ZERO issues with it. So looking forward to full release.

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My guess is that you'll need to update from IE8 to a newer version.
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IE9 is the earliest you can use I believe although IE10 is pretty much guaranteed to run due to its HTML5 support.

 

I played with this yesterday for about 10 minutes because I was at work at the time. I LOVE it. I know it's in beta and so a lot of functionality is missing such as lack of tables in Pages but what is here makes Google Docs and Skydrive look like a complete joke.

 

I'm going to play with my Numbers spreadsheet to see how it pans out because there are a few things I use in that that I don't know whether they've translated but holy cow Apple have done a stunner with what they have pulled off.

 

In the small amount of time I played with it I had ZERO issues with it. So looking forward to full release.

It would be a stunner if Apple adds a shit-ton of additional functionality once this comes out of beta. 

 

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post #25 of 48
Gee, I really hopen Ivy ruins the iWorks icons as well? What do you all say?
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Firefox 22 isn't fully supported but it's working in Pages.app for a form letter.

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I believe (once beta is over) that they intend to support Safari, Chrome (probably just about any webkit browser?) and Internet Explorer.

Looks like I can use ALL the online apps, even ones I never bought. Very nice free bonus! (But I wonder if they'll stay free after beta or not.)
Hope so but not likely (or extremely limited) my guess?
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I read an article talking about iWorks on the iCloud that said it was really good and is raising the bar for Google Docs and MS Office.  Will it be available outside of the iEcosystem?

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I'm yet to start testing this, even though I do have a developer account.

 

I do have an Office 365 subscription but on checking my account, the only mobile apps that are available for me are Lync (which has been in the App Store for quite sometime) and SharePoint. The main Office 365 app is still not available. Guess it is still limited to USA.

 

iWork on the Web looked really slick in the Keynote and I am looking forward to using that. The drag from desktop and drop on browser was really neat.

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For a beta, this works as advertised. Really smooth. Also, when opening the same document on my iPhone, Safari tells me it cannot display the document because it's still being uploaded. Great to get feedback on that, after my phone was done uploading it automatically showed the changed document.

Really really nice. Once they work out all kinks, they can build out on the options they can add. For starters, I think it's an really excellent setup/config they have done here. Must be very rewarding to be working in a team developing this software. And when you think about the many users who will use it, that might be more satisfying than a pay check (well, maybe that's over the top, but you catch my drift).
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So far it's smooth & fast, some teething points if your editing a template ( currency clicking on Category>Data>Data Formate = Automatic and

select Currency €. It doesn't set the change for the whole data? On the other hand starting from fresh and setting the layout from scratch it does.

 

Right now you can not edit change Charts but this is a beta and shows promise.   

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As a developer I tried this sometime back and I really was amazed at how slick and speedy it was - even dragging and dropping images from the desktop and rotating them. It's like using it on the iPad, not on the Mac, but very impressive indeed I thought.

 

Apple have produced a very polished set of "apps" here even in Beta.

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From an education point if view this would be great but we have the problem that children share iPads and so iCloud accounts would also need to be shared. I tried having a shared iCloud account for this but there built up so many files with the limited file system it became untenable. I had hoped iOS7 would allow multiple users and until this time we will rely on Dropbox to store work as the children can export it to their own folder.
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Hope so but not likely (or extremely limited) my guess?

I could see iWork in iCloud stay free. It would drive sales of iWork apps for iOS for sure (as you are presented with the option to set up iCloud in your device when visiting from an iOS device).
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I did get the link as a developer... but i actually never renew a paid subscription to the developer program.

Once upon a time I created a free (student?) developer account and I guess I currently enjoy this legacy support of my subscription.

I think this mean that all developers who didn't paid the annual fee are now enrolled in beta 1wink.gif
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Some pretty enthusiastic reviews:

„If Google Docs and Office 365 are web 2.0, Pages for iCloud is putting forward a case for what a web 3.0 app could be like.“

Read more at http://www.electronista.com/articles/13/07/03/pages.for.icloud.points.to.the.future.of.web.apps/#kqlB3kqkB5w2cTyl.99

„Keynote for iCloud is pure innovation and a perfect example of Apple at its absolute best.“

Read more at http://www.electronista.com/articles/13/07/04/keynote.for.icloud.defines.apples.vision.for.web.30/#GGizRYDBAptfx0AF.99
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Great, so now we have iWork on the web... and still no Maps!

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This is, IMO, a better implementation than google docs or Office 365 on the web. Very fast.


Looking forward, but the worthies you mentioned aren't 'zactly a particularly high bar to beat.  I have accounts with both (well the free Windows Outlook version most comparable to G Docs at least) - and have only visited them to note their evolution after finding how limited and quirky they are. 

 

But as long as I have "real applications," paid Sugar Sync and free DropBox, none of these - except maybe Keynote if I'm away from a real app - for me.

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Great, so now we have iWork on the web... and still no Maps!

 

Have you not been paying attention? It's going to be in a little something called Mac OS X Mavericks.

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I tried out Numbers last night.

 

I have a spreadsheet that has tick boxes that when checked will add rows into another table. Works... flaw... lessly.

 

At the moment I suspect Numbers has had the most development behind it because it's really the most complex of the three apps but man is this suite starting to look sweet.

 

Numbers is my most used app of the lot though so it's nice to have it working so well.

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