So go buy a T9 flip phone and stop whining about things you clearly don't get.
Exactly. The majority wants the iPhone just as it is.
They want the apps to be pre-installed and uninstallable. Sort of like what carriers to with Android phones unless you root them to remove the bloatware carrier crap. If people had to go out of their way to install them it's likely very few would use them anymore and NTT DoCoMo gets tons of revenue by people using their i-mode service.
They can try, they'll just need to realize that Apple's going to continue to say no whilst they lose ever more customers to the other carriers.
Non-sequitur much? How exactly did you jump to the conclusion that they have no apps based on them complaining about carriers who force uninstallable crapware on their phones? You fail to see the difference between those and apps the user chooses to install themselves?
iPhone 5 64GB, iPhone 4S 16GB, mid-2011 iMac, Apple TV 2nd Gen, iPod Nano
iPhone 5 64GB, iPhone 4S 16GB, mid-2011 iMac, Apple TV 2nd Gen, iPod Nano
In other words, NTT DoCoMo needs iPhone more than Apple needs NTT DoCoMo.
Just a matter of time before NTT caves and does the deal with Apple.
Ganbatte kudasai ne?
If you say so.
I can see how some, even a lot, of people might have use for Safari and Mail and maybe a couple others on that list. I can't see how anyone can get anything useful out of Compass.
And yet Compass.app can't be deleted. Just like all the other that I'd like to delete.
Well put. If Verizon can cave and not put their crapware and dog-butt-ugly logo on iPhone, NTT DoCoMo can suck it up and do the same. The bottom line will convince them.
Well, at least in iOS7 you'll be able to throw every single app that bugs you into a single folder, which will at most take up 1 icon on your screen.
EDIT: Ok, just noticed you pretty much listed every single built in app as "bloatware", including mail and safari, which pretty much makes you a troll.
I use Mailbox and Triage instead of Mail, and I use iCab Mobile instead of Safari. Why does that make me a troll? These apps are available from the App Store and fit my needs better than Mail or Safari.
I call it bloatware if it's unnecessary to me and I can't remove it. Sorry if I don't fit your cookie cutter idea of an iPhone user.
I could, and I do. But those apps are taking up room on my iPhone and spoiling my Springboard feng shui. I just want to be able to delete them.
Not sure why this is such a controversial idea. It's been brought up by many other people many times before.
However, that is already known and if they don't care, how is there pressure? From where? Are there reports saying that more are leaving in even higher numbers? Really, 4 years and nothing changed, I see little pressure.
What market forces? If they are going in another direction, how is the market forcing them to do otherwise?
This reminds me of when people say Apple has to do this, or do that, or offer this feature, or that feature as the market demands, and Apple does not, but goes in their own direction. How is this different from this telco?
It seems to me that DoCoMo has a different strategy that what fits the Apple model. If so, they must be content in this strategy, or there is something that forces them to change. I was simply asking, aside from the hype of the lead, what has taken place that is forcing their hand?
I am not suggesting their strategy is good or bad, but only asked what is this mounting pressure? I just think the title is misleading when the only new news is that DoCoMo is developing a 'lifestyle system'. Perhaps a better, less dramatic title, would have been, "DoCoMo Develops a Lifestyle System While Continually Not Offering the iPhone".
Android has bigger problems. Too many competing products where only Samsung seems to make any profits since it's made from component sales from other mfg and they don't have as high costs for panels, RAM, NAND, and Processors. Too much malware which effects the users. Too much fragmentation which causes a head ache for the developers and bottom line. The Android problem is that it isn't profitable to sustain it. Google makes money, but I think Google actually gets more money through the iOS community than they do with their own OS platform. The only way I see Android changing their ways is to become "closed" like Microsoft or Apple. the problem is that they won't be that successful if they had to charge licensing fees, I'm sure that will piss off a lot of phone/tablet makers, or if they just canned everything other than Nexus based products. They way they are structuring their OS, it's just dumb. I saw this coming as soon as I looked at their business model. This whole thing is going to affect more the larger customers, the Enterprise market, Government, Military. They might scrap Android over this mess. I would if I were them.
RIM doesn't appear capable of making a comeback since they might have to lay off more people hurting development of new products. They can only lay so many people off before it starts destroying their ability to develop new products and support existing customers. Plus they aren't getting a lot of attention from Developers of software and hardware.
Apple's problems are a different set. At least Apple makes a decent profit and the users aren't compromised. It's just a matter of coming out with more products in a timely manner, the right product design, resolving production issues before they get out of hand, etc. Nothing that can't be overcome without too much difficulty.
Microsoft has their own problems with no one buying the Surface RT, Windows 8 adoption is not really that great of having only about 5% adoption after about 6 months on the market.
I do, and I've experienced it. i sent in a request back in 2000-2001 to Jobs directly and a few months later they hired a programmer that had unique expertise in exactly what i suggested and they released a later version of OS X with what I submitted and it's embedded in OS X and it will never be removed. They did many requests that I've made over the years. Some times it took one or two revs, but they did do exactly what I suggested. A lot of times, it's something that others are requesting as well, so they will do it if they get enough requests and it makes sense, or if it really is a good idea. In iOS 7 they are putting many things that I requested, but there were other people that requested the same thing. It all depends on what the requests are. If you are asking them to do something that's stupid, then no, but they do read all of the feedback submissions and they will do things if it makes sense, if they can figure out a proper way to do it. but if you request a dumb idea, then typically no they won't do that. Sometimes it may take them a while to do it as there might be other things they feel are more important.
With regards to what a cell phone carrier requests? Only if it makes sense. For instance, with China Mobile, they have a proprietary system, so Apple would have to make a phone that can specifically run on their cell network that's specific to China Mobile. Some carriers don't always support FaceTime right out of the gate. Certain requests if they have to or it makes sense, they will. But cheap promotional stickers? NOPE. The most rebranding is having the carrier's name on the phone, which I don't think they should do. I think all phones should be able to legally transferable from one carrier to another without having to jailbreak the thing.
I'll just assume you're being intentionally obtuse. It's been pointed out countless times, including in this thread, that the reason you can't delete them is because they are baked into the firmware, that they are baked into the firmware partly for historical reasons and, more importantly, a) because they provide services that other apps depend on, and b) they provide a minimally useful out of the box smartphone user experience without requiring a user to install additional apps.
This isn't really that hard to understand, and the fact that you can point to others who apparently don't understand doesn't somehow make not understanding interesting. You might as well ask, "why can't I delete location services?" or, "why can't I delete WiFi networking?" Those are equally ignorant questions.