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post #81 of 110

There are ways to hide the antenna. 

 

Take for example the ASUS Padfone Infinity. It uses an aluminium unibody:

 

asus-padfone-infinity-60-640x425.jpg

 

As you can see, towards the rear base of the device is a discreet break to allow for the antenna and NFC.

 

Asus-Padfone-Infinity3.jpg

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Not so sure about that, I think the antennas are located behind those two glass panels on the top and bottom of the iPhone 5's back panel, otherwise why would they be there? The design would be more aesthetically pleasing without them.

Crowley is right. The top and bottom parts of the iPhone 5 casing are cell antennas, and other antennas (Wifi, BT etc.) are found behind the little glass windows.

 

Note: the image below was a mockup made from leaked parts before the iPhone 5 was unveiled, but they are accurate.

 

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...ASUS Padfone Infinity. 

A stupid name, describing perfectly a stupid device.

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This is just an absolutely nonsense thing to say.  Pretty much *all* of Apples products for years have been made for more than "just the USA."  Apple is a global company and sells their entire product line around the world.  More than half of their sales come from outside the USA and have for a long time.  

 

I also find it pretty offensive the way you phrase it.  As if the markets outside the USA are somehow quintessentially different.  I mean WTF?

 

The consumers in the rest of North America and the UK for starters are basically exactly the same kind of consumers as those in the USA.  Do you somehow believe that outside of the borders of the USA everyone else is somehow different?  Monkeys perhaps?  Maybe they need different products because they ride to work on elephants?  Take a look at the list of languages Apple supports on their products sometime.  

 

Do you really fucking believe that other than a bit of poverty, the people who live and work in Indonesia are somehow totally different from you?  Are you unaware that even though some do live in poverty, millions of people also live in places like Africa, Indonesia, Asia, etc. that drive BMW's to work and live in suburban houses that are indistinguishable from your own?  Did it never occur to you that there are a great many poor, dumb hicks in Missouri that have a lower standard of living, education, (and morals) than many people in the "developing" world?   

 

You need to get out more.  There is some seriously racist crap flowing between the lines of everything you say here.  Up yours. 

 

Hypocrisy, ignorance and personal attacks - are those your favoured tools in any discussion, or should I consider myself special that you were dressed in your Sunday best with me? You know nothing whatsoever about me, you rail against my alleged offences (which were caused by *your* misunderstanding and misinterpreting what I said, assuming something totally wrong and attacking me personally based on those false assumptions) and then proceed to commit offences of your own. But I suppose it's the best way to avoid the question I asked?

 

Since you misunderstood what was being asked I'll rephrase: when has Apple ever created a product that is aimed primarily at a country that isn't the US? That isn't offensive, it's a question, and from my knowledge of Apple and having been a user of its products for over 30 years, there is no product that they have produced (to my knowledge) that is primarily aimed at markets other than the US. Apple's primary market is the US, the fact they localise (I understand the concept having worked on various localisation projects in my career for both hardware and software companies over 20 years, having worked in multiple countries in said career, having held country, region, continent and globally based responsibilities in that career, having studied more than 1 more than 2 more than 3 languages in my life, the concept isn't foreign to me, but thanks for the patronising lesson).

 

The rest of your ignorant and utterly offensive rant (which positions you conveniently as the superior non-racist, like the two white men in a room of southern black men where one of the white men yells, "stop calling all these men niggers, you know I hate that term" sort of juvenile tactic employed to get the shit beaten out of me while you silently escape the scene) assumes a lot of negativity I can't even begin to understand how you interpreted from my few words, but you did, and for that I'll give you some credit for having quite an imagination (though why it has to lean that way, instead of assuming I meant none of what you said, is something that is really wrong about life in general). If you really thought I was saying those horrible things, you should have confirmed that's what I meant with my words *first*, but it's always easier to go off half-cocked and rest assured in one's arrogance afterwards that you were right and no questions were required before shooting that unarmed person. Or perhaps you were merely looking for a fight where you could throw a bunch of rhetoric and false accusations around and then claim victory?

 

On the topic of a cheap iPhone, you and many others here and on other blogs I frequent have all asserted that any new cheaper iPhone will be aimed at "emerging markets" - the Indonesian truck driver, that was *your* fucking example. My point was that I think companies that produce a product merely to extract profit from a market are profit grubbing companies of the worst sort, and that's not what Apple is. Apple produces products that people love. Their primary market is the US, that is not in dispute, is it? Localisation aside, that is not seriously in dispute, is it? I'm not saying they shouldn't produce a product for an Indonesian truck driver (again, your example, though, why you pick that example smacks hugely of baiting a fight), but that's not their history, there is no precedent, but why people think this phone will be targeted to this poor truck driver is nothing that makes any sense whatsoever. I ask why you think this, and your response is nonsense wrapped in offence. Answer the question if you want to discuss, or not, but don't ever attack me again.

 

None of what I said should have been misinterpreted in the way you did - there was nothing that referred to poverty or localisation or the plight of the poor. Again, you know nothing of me, my situation in life, my travels, my income level, my education, my political leanings, but you ran right to the area that allowed you to rant and claim some moral high ground, and you did so in the most offensive ways with personal attacks, which I find hugely ironic and utterly hypocritical. If I "need to get out more" (to quote you), my suggestion and most desirous wish is that people with your attitude should do the exact fucking opposite by staying in more and making even more babies with their sisters and cousins. Up mine? I won't respond in kind because I don't engage in ad hominem attacks - they tend to kill discussion, which for some are useful when you are unable to discuss substantively.

 

If this product is real (regardless whether the current spate of images are real or not), the new iPhone will not be a cheaper iPhone targeted at off contract markets and segments, it will not be featuring price as its differentiating factor (neither will it be build materials or internal technologies or components), it'll be more fundamental than that, because that's what Apple does, they understand and are experts in product strategy, product positioning and product differentiation. It'll be as different from the iPhone as the Mac Pro is different from the iMac, as different as the iPod nano is from the iPod Classic. Apple understands how to create products and sell them into different markets, they don't do it based on region, and they don't ever do it based on price as the number one factor that differentiates the product from the rest of the family. If you think that's a racist attitude being expressed, I'll leave in place the ignorant label I attached to your earlier offensive rant(s). 

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lol.gif  That's got to be a record.  A prize to that man/woman!

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post #86 of 110
As I'm so fond of describing my clients/users , behind their backs, they have the right to be a moron/idiot after all they are paying.
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On a side note. For $199 the Basic Bear offers a lot of value. Not to mention the fact it outperforms the iPhone 5.

 

  • Snapdragon 600 @1.7GHz  (complete OpenGL ES 3.0 support)
  • 2GB RAM
  • 4inch 1136x640 IPS display 
  • Android 4.2 Jelly Bean (stock)
  • HSPA+ 42
  • 16GB internal storage
  • etc.

 

 

Whenever I see specs posted by Android users, it just translates into:

  • Flaccid Length: @2.2 inches
  • Erect Length: 4.5 inches
  • Girth: 1.78 inches
  • Android 4.2 KY Jelly (stock)
  • Touch-sensitive surface area: 30 sq. inches
  • Max deflection angle: 57 degrees (in 1.0G acceleration field)
  • etc.

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Whenever I see specs posted by Android users, it just translates into:

  • Flaccid Length: @2.2 inches
  • Erect Length: 4.5 inches
  • Girth: 1.78 inches
  • Android 4.2 KY Jelly (stock)
  • Touch-sensitive surface area: 30 sq. inches
  • Max deflection angle: 57 degrees (in 1.0G acceleration field)
  • etc.

Is this due to the fact you're having trouble understanding the specifications listed?

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I had a feeling there would be a few 'bad apples', it would appear you're one of them.

I don't care who you are come back; phablets are a nicher device than even the xMac. That can't be argued.

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I don't care who you are come back; phablets are a nicher device than even the xMac. That can't be argued.

 

Now I wouldn't buy one, but you're presenting your opinion as indisputable fact, ts. 

 

Samsung has sold north of 10 million Galaxy Notes and 5 million Note IIs, and those numbers are from the back half of 2012. 

 

Since the first generation of the Note came out in late 2011, that means they sold around 15 million Notes of both generations in roughly a year. 

 

That happens to be about the same as the total sales of Macs of all kinds in a year, recently (about 4 million/quarter). 

 

So unless Macs of all kinds are a niche device, the Note's been pretty successful. 

 

And the Note isn't even the only phablet, though it's no doubt the most successful one.

 

(All the numbers are from Wikipedia, and they all have sources there. If there have been massive writedowns by retailers on Notes, I haven't heard about it.)

post #91 of 110

If I may add, the ASUS Padfone Infinity is not actually a phablet.

 

It is a standard 5inch smartphone that happens to have a tablet dock accessory.

post #92 of 110

Whether this video shows a real iPhone Lite case or not, it's a rather clever marketing ploy for their own Android device. Almost clever enough to make up for the name Basic Bear.

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There's really no point guys.

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My prediction: 

No plastic iPhone Lite/Budget/Cheapo. I think Apple is pretty done with polycarbonate for anything other than some accessories.

iPod touch pricing and features (color options and cameras) remain the same. I think Apple settled on these configs in advance of the iPhone "Lite" rollout:
  • iPod Touch 16 GB $229 (no iSight camera; limited to 16GB storage; "previous-gen" A series chip)
  • iPod Touch 32 GB $299 (FaceTime and iSight cameras, and 32 and 64 GB flavors; "previous-gen" A series chip)
  • iPod Touch 64 GB $399 (FaceTime and iSight cameras, and 32 and 64 GB flavors; "previous-gen" A series chip)

iPhone "Lite" leverages ipod Touch components and chassis, rather that the previous-gen iPhone components and chassis
  • iPhone Lite 16 GB $399 (iPod touch colors; iPod Touch chassis; iPod Touch's iSight and FaceTime cameras; "previous-gen" A series chip; not available with subsidy, only direct from Apple)

iPhone latest-gen iPhone (5S/6/Whatever) gets a $50 price drop across the board; no color options (only black and white styles) and uses the most advanced hardware:
  • iPhone 5S 32 GB $599 (the very latest of all components; subsidized or unlocked)
  • iPhone 5S 64 GB $699 (the very latest of all components; subsidized or unlocked)
  • iPhone 5S 128 GB $799 (the very latest of all components; subsidized or unlocked)

In this scenario, Apple's economy of scale advantages are maintained by carrying over components from the current generation iPod Touch line rather than the prior iPhone (4/4S/5) line. This also will allow Apple to sell more of their iPhones themselves (from the online or retail stores) and not via carriers and third-party retailers. Lastly, data for the iPhone Lite will be sold exactly the way it is sold for iPads. The exception, of course, is that voice data will continue to be disallowed on iPad.

iOS has never used an iSight camera. The latest 16 GB iPod Touch has a front side FaceTime camera.
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iOS has never used an iSight camera. The latest 16 GB iPod Touch has a front side FaceTime camera.

Different name for the same thing. Come on.

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iOS has never used an iSight camera. The latest 16 GB iPod Touch has a front side FaceTime camera.

iOS has never used an iSight camera? Damn, someone please alert Phil Schiller. How dare he mention iSight that he introduced iPhone 5 last year! While you're at it, please tell Apple their website is wrong.

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Is this due to the fact you're having trouble understanding the specifications listed?

 

It is due to the fact that I find the obsession with hardware specs really funny. Perhaps you've heard of this thing called humor? Do they have that on Planet Fandroid, or is everyone there just bitter about Apple all the time?

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It is due to the fact that I find the obsession with hardware specs really funny. Perhaps you've heard of this thing called humor? Do they have that on Planet Fandroid, or is everyone there just bitter about Apple all the time?

You came to that conclusion after I posted relevant specifications of a device in order to allow for an easy assessment of the device's performance and value?

 

Perhaps I should have just said the device has great performance and value without listing the specifications. Would that of been to your liking?

 

I'm a technology enthusiast, not a blind fanboy. I've done nothing to earn such an attitude from the likes of you.

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iOS has never used an iSight camera. The latest 16 GB iPod Touch has a front side FaceTime camera.

The 16 GB does not and I never said it did. Check out the product page for the iPod touch and note the 32GB and 64 GB versions: http://www.apple.com/ipod-touch/specs.html 

 

It says right there 5MP iSight camera (along with a FaceTime HD camera). I cared to check the product page to make sure before I posted. Perhaps you could get into that habit before you go about spewing nonsense?

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On a side note. For $199 the Basic Bear offers a lot of value. Not to mention the fact it outperforms the iPhone 5.

 

  • Snapdragon 600 @1.7GHz  (complete OpenGL ES 3.0 support)
  • 2GB RAM
  • 4inch 1136x640 IPS display 
  • Android 4.2 Jelly Bean (stock)
  • HSPA+ 42
  • 16GB internal storage
  • etc.

 

These are some things a spec-head really cares about, unfortunately, Specs are just numbers & real world speed & usage are very different.

I love the numbers as much as the next guy, however, I own in iPhone 5 & the Samsung galaxy S4, I9505 4G.

In real world usage, the iPhone runs rings around the S4, just in terms of snappiness within the OS, opening applications, stability in the OS & general reliability.

features & usage is a personal thing, So saying a phone 'outperforms' another, what & where do you mean, on paper? it probably does, real world, not a chance, I have them next to each other, it could just be touchwiz screwing the S4, even so this is the "Fastest phone in the world" according to Cnet & such, So far, really not convinced.

interesting note, i have iOS 7 beta 2 on a 5th gen iPod touch, its just as stable as android 4.2.2 (on a few of my android devices) my iPod touch & android devices crash, daily, one of the 3 systems here is in beta...

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These are some things a spec-head really cares about, unfortunately, Specs are just numbers & real world speed & usage are very different.

I love the numbers as much as the next guy, however, I own in iPhone 5 & the Samsung galaxy S4, I9505 4G.

In real world usage, the iPhone runs rings around the S4, just in terms of snappiness within the OS, opening applications, stability in the OS & general reliability.

features & usage is a personal thing, So saying a phone 'outperforms' another, what & where do you mean, on paper? it probably does, real world, not a chance, I have them next to each other, it could just be touchwiz screwing the S4, even so this is the "Fastest phone in the world" according to Cnet & such, So far, really not convinced.

interesting note, i have iOS 7 beta 2 on a 5th gen iPod touch, its just as stable as android 4.2.2 (on a few of my android devices) my iPod touch & android devices crash, daily, one of the 3 systems here is in beta...

Outperforms on paper and more than likely in just about every real life application (excluding situations in which LTE would give the iPhone 5 a data connection advantage).

 

I wouldn't recommend the S4 due to the fact I hate Samsung's skin on top of Android. Despite hype and sales, I've never been too impressed with Samsung's devices, touchwiz is just that bad. For that matter, why do you own one? You clearly dislike the device.

 

The Google version of both the S4 and One give a much better representation of the device's hardware. Even in the benchmarks, both devices saw an increase in performance using vanilla. 

 

There is also the consideration that the Basic Bear is running stock Android 4.2 with the same Snapdragon 600 SoC found inside the HTC One, at the same resolution as the iPhone 5. The S4 and One are running at 1920x1080.

 

Future applications utilizing GLES 3.0 will also run on S600 hardware, meanwhile only partial features "might" run on the A6 hardware.

 

The current claim of "the fastest phone in the world" would refer to the Galaxy S4 LTE-Advanced model, with Snapdragon 800 and LTE-Advanced without a doubt it raised the bar a good margin.

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 touchwiz is just that bad. For that matter, why do you own one? You clearly dislike the device.

 

I don't hate android, I wanted a new 'Premium' smart phone, It was either the S4 or the HTC One, At the time google didn't announce the google editions of the phones.
I went S4 because HTC have a horrible OS update track record, At first touchwiz didn't seem that bad, The dislike isn't from bias, its because the device is unbelievably overrated, It has the specs, it really does, it doesn't have the performance, which is why I mentions the numbers themselves don't actually paint the full picture. 

I'm a tech guy, i own or use devices of all types, no other devices have the fit & polish that apples do, Hardware & Software combined, the gap is massive too, for people that don't prioritize, quality & reliability, I can see how they would think specs & 'Features' could be more important to them.

 

If apple do bring out a cheaper iPhone, i don't have a problem with it, when do they bring out crappy cheap devices?, even the iPod shuffle feels decent & works well.

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interesting note, i have iOS 7 beta 2 on a 5th gen iPod touch, its just as stable as android 4.2.2 (on a few of my android devices) my iPod touch & android devices crash, daily, one of the 3 systems here is in beta...

 

I've owned my iPad 2 for almost two years and my Galaxy Nexus for close to the same. Each has been continuously on the latest (non beta) version; neither is jailbroken. In all that time, each device has crashed once. What are you doing to that thing?

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I've owned my iPad 2 for almost two years and my Galaxy Nexus for close to the same. Each has been continuously on the latest (non beta) version; neither is jailbroken. In all that time, each device has crashed once. What are you doing to that thing?

I have a nexus 7 too, it crashes daily too, statistically speaking id ask 'what are you doing to yours for it not to crash?' that's the question, i think its more unusual to have it running stable, no joke.

when i say crash, i mean app crashes & sometimes the entire OS which reboots the system, My usage is pretty light, on my S4 its some texting, light browsing, sometimes running apps, I'm at work during the day so its not like i can just play on my phone, nexus 7 is much worse, its been wiped to factory settings several times, the wind changes directing & its rebooting, I've seen the same damn thing on my friends android devices & they always play it down like its a rare & unusual thing, what are the odds that they only crash while I'm around?...  I think its one of those things that doesn't bother a lot of people or people don't notice, No doubt its happening tho. 

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How would you turn it on and off? Volume? Looks a little nicer than the other rumored photos

 

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I have a nexus 7 too, it crashes daily too, statistically speaking id ask 'what are you doing to yours for it not to crash?' that's the question, i think its more unusual to have it running stable, no joke.

when i say crash, i mean app crashes & sometimes the entire OS which reboots the system, My usage is pretty light, on my S4 its some texting, light browsing, sometimes running apps, I'm at work during the day so its not like i can just play on my phone, nexus 7 is much worse, its been wiped to factory settings several times, the wind changes directing & its rebooting, I've seen the same damn thing on my friends android devices & they always play it down like its a rare & unusual thing, what are the odds that they only crash while I'm around?...  I think its one of those things that doesn't bother a lot of people or people don't notice, No doubt its happening tho. 

 

 

You should not count app crashes when commenting on stability of any OS, unless it is a system app or if the same app behaves differently on someone else's device with a different version of the OS (even then ...). Otherwise, it is like telling someone you crash into fire hydrants all the time when asked how well your car drives.

 

My Nexus 7 rarely crashes. Same is true of my iPads and iPad Mini. All 3 are used extensively (including personal and development uses).

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I have a nexus 7 too, it crashes daily too, statistically speaking id ask 'what are you doing to yours for it not to crash?' that's the question, i think its more unusual to have it running stable, no joke.

when i say crash, i mean app crashes & sometimes the entire OS which reboots the system, My usage is pretty light, on my S4 its some texting, light browsing, sometimes running apps, I'm at work during the day so its not like i can just play on my phone, nexus 7 is much worse, its been wiped to factory settings several times, the wind changes directing & its rebooting, I've seen the same damn thing on my friends android devices & they always play it down like its a rare & unusual thing, what are the odds that they only crash while I'm around?...  I think its one of those things that doesn't bother a lot of people or people don't notice, No doubt its happening tho. 

 

I don't use many apps (just Chrome, Moon Reader, Economist, and a couple games for my kids). 

 

You mention that you're using an S4. Presumably that's with TouchWiz and Samsung's other addons. I'm using a Galaxy Nexus, so even though it's a Samsung device the software is pure Google. Maybe it's Samsung's extras that are causing your crashes, or one of your apps? Or maybe you just have a bad unit? My wife had to replace her iPhone 5 due to faulty memory that would produce glitches whenever she was using a lot of RAM. It happens. 

 

I've never used a Nexus 7, so I have no input there.

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You mention that you're using an S4. Presumably that's with TouchWiz and Samsung's other addons. I'm using a Galaxy Nexus, so even though it's a Samsung device the software is pure Google. Maybe it's Samsung's extras that are causing your crashes, or one of your apps? Or maybe you just have a bad unit? My wife had to replace her iPhone 5 due to faulty memory that would produce glitches whenever she was using a lot of RAM. It happens. 

 

 

For sure, TouchWiz could be the cause, I know that some devices are faulty, at work I'm dealing with smartphones, we support them, politicians use them, the other S4s seem exactly the same as mine, i'm probably just a little spoiled 

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I don't see the cheap iPhone is possible. Here is why:

1. Profit Margin Impact: if cheap iPhone is released with all basic functions of iPhone 5 or new iPhone (5s?), a lot of people will get it since it's free (must be) with carrier subsidy. $100-$200 profit loss for every potential iPhone 5/5s customer unless Apple can sell 2-4 times more cheap iPhones to make up for the loss of every potential iPhone 5/5s customer. Why put the stress on yourself to make the same profit?

2. Price: because iPhone 5 price will be slashed by $100 to $99 subsidized or $550 un-subsidized at the new iPhone release this year, cheap iPhone must be free with subsidy or $399-$450 with no subsidy. What will Apple going to do with this cheap iPhone in next year refresh when iPhone 5 is free? Discontinue it? No way, it's only 1 year old. Price it -$100 subsidized or $250-$299 unsubsidized? Doubt it because Apple will end up with 4 tiers of iPhones: 6 (assumed), 5s, 5 and cheapo. Also, at $250-$299 un-subsidized, who wants an iPod Touch anymore? Apple is not that stupid.

3. Build of Material (BOM): Even if Apple will cut here and there to make it cheaper to build, the most they can reduce in BOM is $50 compared to iPhone 4s. I don't see the benefit of saving $50 in BOM but causing a huge risk in profit margin impact from potential new iPhone customer. New customers will be more likely to get 5 or 5s instead of 2-year old 4s, but will if the cheap iPhone is at lower tier, that's different story.

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I don't see the cheap iPhone is possible. Here is why:
1. Profit Margin Impact: if cheap iPhone is released with all basic functions of iPhone 5 or new iPhone (5s?), a lot of people will get it since it's free (must be) with carrier subsidy. $100-$200 profit loss for every potential iPhone 5/5s customer unless Apple can sell 2-4 times more cheap iPhones to make up for the loss of every potential iPhone 5/5s customer. Why put the stress on yourself to make the same profit?
2. Price: because iPhone 5 price will be slashed by $100 to $99 subsidized or $550 un-subsidized at the new iPhone release this year, cheap iPhone must be free with subsidy or $399-$450 with no subsidy. What will Apple going to do with this cheap iPhone in next year refresh when iPhone 5 is free? Discontinue it? No way, it's only 1 year old. Price it -$100 subsidized or $250-$299 unsubsidized? Doubt it because Apple will end up with 4 tiers of iPhones: 6 (assumed), 5s, 5 and cheapo. Also, at $250-$299 un-subsidized, who wants an iPod Touch anymore? Apple is not that stupid.
3. Build of Material (BOM): Even if Apple will cut here and there to make it cheaper to build, the most they can reduce in BOM is $50 compared to iPhone 4s. I don't see the benefit of saving $50 in BOM but causing a huge risk in profit margin impact from potential new iPhone customer. New customers will be more likely to get 5 or 5s instead of 2-year old 4s, but will if the cheap iPhone is at lower tier, that's different story.

All good points.

One thing I will say is the cost of components in general has fallen and this year is probably the first where a cheaper iPhone could ever work.

Today Apple can use older components that are more than powerful enough for the average user.

We see how they did that with the iPad Mini using iPad 2 components but still being fast and compatible with the latest iOS. There is no lack of performance for most users even though it uses 2-3 year old tech.

If an iPhone were based on iPad Mini tech let's figure an iPad mini with LTE cost $459.

Apple could offer a low end 8GB model of the cheaper iPhone as a gateway with only one color option for $349 or $399, then a 16GB model with a range of colors for $100 more.

Most people would buy the color version which would have higher margins than the iPad Mini and make an affordable iPhone profitable for the company. Combine that with the greater sales such a device could have globally and you'll see the risk would be worth the return.
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