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I'd want to see legislation that would exactly prevent that sort of thing. The issue with GG is not that it looks geeky, that's just a matter of morphing fashion ideals, but what it means. GG that's even more stealth would be worse than what GG already is. So any sort of "integrated into regular glasses" technology should be mandated to have neon-green frames or something like that, which warns people from half a mile away that some wanna-be-spook with his "I record my life stream video because I can't handle the fact that I'm mortal" device is approaching.


Everyone seems to be brainwashed into this idea that the loss of privacy is "inevitable". That's like brainwashing serfs into the idea that slavery is "inevitable". Everything is inevitable until people decide that it's undesirable enough to make a ruckus about it. It's high time that people start making a ruckus.

Better off getting used to the idea of having them around whether you like it or not.  Unless you want to pass a law that all cell phones, cameras, and video recorders need to be outlawed or neon green too.  These are going to have a big impact on the world, just like twitter had on news.  Whether it is for better or worse is the question.

As annoying as mobile phones can be, they are not stealth. If someone points their stupid phone at me, I see it.
If someone wears something like GG integrated into normal looking eyeglasses, then it's very stealth.

If someone points a camera at you, you can confront the person to stop doing it, delete the footage, and if things are harassing call the police.
If someone walks around with camouflaged GG, you can do exactly nothing, because you don't even know it's happening.

HUGE DIFFERENCE.
post #162 of 231
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I think all the reviewers misunderstand what kind device Google Glass really is. Google Glass is not a cell phone. It is simply a bluetooth accessory. It won't function without connecting to a real smartphone. When the reviewers have this true understanding then they may actually write a review without all these negative observations.

No. Because what matters is WHAT the device does, not HOW it does it.
I don't care if it had a super-computer built-in, or needs to connect via a BT-interface to a phone, that connects to your home computer, which connects to a satellite uplink , which connects to supercomputer...

All that matters is that it's a massive invasion of privacy as the device stands. How it does so is utterly irrelevant.
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Maybe his finger hit the "k" and "d" instead of the "l" and "s" since both pairs of letters are right next to each other. And maybe he typed his response on a device that automatically corrected Skil to Skill. And maybe you could not jump to douche assumptions. It's not like he rewrote your name as Lacks Skil or Lamest Skil.

There are coincidences and then there are improbabilities. 1oyvey.gif At any rate, proofreading should occur.
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post #164 of 231
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First person porn?

Won't work. Anyone wearing these glasses would lose any residual shred of sex appeal they might have - and never get laid.

That's why porn actors get paid :P
post #165 of 231

okay a new term add to the US lexicon  --- Glasshole... lol.gif

 

I just like all the videos showing the really bad part of this type of product and Google is doing nothing about it either. This is worse than the who ipad being a famine hygiene product

post #166 of 231
I think this is totally ridiculous use of technology. People have for years been trying to get rid of wearing glasses of any kind and all of the sudden this is going to be accepted? Over what? So I can do stuff "hands free" and look like a dork doing it? I just can't see this as being a big consumer winner. I can, however, see the application in a manufacturing situation or something like that, especially when coupled with safety glasses or something on that order. Maybe a consumer application would be to couple these with real glasses that people use or sunglasses but as they sit, holy crap!!!!
post #167 of 231

I think the bottom line, at least for now, is one can certainly think up specific applications for these devices where they would be very useful. However, wearing them in any kind of uncontrolled environment, social setting, or any situation where there is any kind of expectation, either of privacy or of awareness of breaches of privacy, may well be poorly tolerated. They combine the social weirdness of BT headsets with additional connotations of surveillance, voyeurism, potential YouTube humiliation etc. Not a great combination.

 

It's not at all the same as just having a camera in ones cell phone, because it both advertises its presence as a recording device constantly targeted at ones field of view, and gives no obvious indication whether it is recording. Even if it has a little red light, that is unlikely to help much. I suspect that most people on the receiving end will find that distracting, possibly offensive, and a real invasion of personal space. It seems like it will need a significant culture change for this to become acceptable in general society.

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Maybe a consumer application would be to couple these with real glasses that people use or sunglasses but as they sit, holy crap!!!!

 

post #169 of 231
The pervs are loving this crap. The only goddamn thing GG is useful for is recording people.
Now, who out here haven't figured out that Google is working for the federal government. This is just what our crumbling society needs. Stealth surveillance under the guise of wearable tech.
post #170 of 231
If Google had just kept the camera aspect out of the equation it would have worked better.

A voice recorder for dictation would have been more acceptable and simply viewing emails and directions on screen without your hands would still keep it above other devices. Ever since the general public was made aware of the constant monitoring being done on our lives, any camera is now looked at as an invasion of privacy.

This may be destined to be a product that comes and goes without the impact it could have done without the hyper-awareness present in the public today.
post #171 of 231
So, tallest, your iPhone or iPad is translucent? Can you explain me how I can turn my iPhone/iPad into being translucent?

Thanks!
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So, tallest, your iPhone or iPad is translucent? Can you explain me how I can turn my iPhone/iPad into being translucent?

Ugh, what are you pretending I've said now... 1oyvey.gif

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post #173 of 231

I don't think I'll ever have use for Glass, but I hope it succeeds.  I'm sure there are other people out there who could really use this for work or for their personal lives.  Bio-chemists or quadriplegics, for example.

post #174 of 231
I'm an early adopter. I bought the first Intel iMac, the first Intel MacBook Pro, the first Retina MacBoo Pro, and the first iPhone on the first day they came out. And that's just the Apple stuff.

However, in the case of Google Glass, I'm a never adopter. They only work for people whose vision can't be corrected without glasses.
post #175 of 231
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So, tallest, your iPhone or iPad is translucent? Can you explain me how I can turn my iPhone/iPad into being translucent?

Thanks!

It's not translucent, but if you turn the camera on, the screen shows whatever it's pointed at - which amounts to almost the same thing.
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I'm an early adopter. I bought the first Intel iMac, the first Intel MacBook Pro, the first Retina MacBoo Pro, and the first iPhone on the first day they came out. And that's just the Apple stuff.

However, in the case of Google Glass, I'm a never adopter. They only work for people whose vision can't be corrected without glasses.

I think you mean 'can' be corrected without glasses. For anyone over about 40, their near vision is gone and it would be difficult or impossible to focus on the screen. Plus, anyone who is naturally far sighted wouldn't be able to use it.
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post #176 of 231

Great comparison, Glasses to Newton. I have a Newton. I remember using it at a meeting back in 1998, trying to take notes. I felt like a dork, and I think others thought the same. With Glasses, I would feel the same, and probably get the same reactions. BTW, my Newton is safely stored away, awaiting its value to increase as the years go by. (and it still works)

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Can you ware glasse's with Glass? Lot's of people with bi fokels .

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It's not translucent, but if you turn the camera on, the screen shows whatever it's pointed at - which amounts to almost the same thing.
 

Thank you for making my point. This is where a device like GG and iPhone/iPad (which I both HAVE) are different.
And this feature will make that using a device like GG will be different than using iPhone/iPad. This feature allows for enhanced reality and creates

a whole new breed of interfaces.

 

During hiking, when performing surgery, whilst visiting a museum, when repairing a car, star gazing at night, ... enhanced reality has an edge.

 

Tallest Skill may claim that GG is irrelevant because of iPhone and iPad, clearly he doesn't understand the value of interfaces.

And actually, his miserably failed attempts to humiliate people are no proof that he does understand, on the contrary.

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Places the glasses will be banned/scrutinized:
- restrooms
- anywhere near a women's restroom
- playgrounds
- meeting rooms
- the bedroom
- any customer service areas
- cash registers at every store or bank
- clothing stores
- school campuses
- airports
- anywhere in/around a military base
- anywhere in/around business operational areas
- beaches
- anyplace where a man with the glasses happens to glance at a women's chest or crotch
- and the list goes on...

So, life, then.
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post #180 of 231
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I don't think I'll ever have use for Glass, but I hope it succeeds.  I'm sure there are other people out there who could really use this for work or for their personal lives.  Bio-chemists or quadriplegics, 

and Pedophiles.

post #181 of 231
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star gazing at night, ... 

How is that different from using iPad?

post #182 of 231
Well, i do use the iPad now for star gazing. But pointing to a star with a device that blocks your sight is quite complicated.
It seems to me that just looking at a star is the (far) more simple approach.
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How is that different from using iPad?

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and Pedophiles.
They use the iPad as well
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Great comparison, Glasses to Newton. I have a Newton. I remember using it at a meeting back in 1998, trying to take notes. I felt like a dork, and I think others thought the same. With Glasses, I would feel the same, and probably get the same reactions. BTW, my Newton is safely stored away, awaiting its value to increase as the years go by. (and it still works)

Just like the first Tablet PCs running Windows 3.11. 1tongue.gif

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post #185 of 231
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How is that different from using iPad?

The iPad shows you the name of the planets and constellations.

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post #186 of 231
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They use the iPad as well

True but it's kind of hard hiding the iPad when spying in the playgrounds.
post #187 of 231
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... During hiking, when performing surgery, whilst visiting a museum, when repairing a car, star gazing at night, ... enhanced reality has an edge. ...

 

What kind of surgery do you do?

post #188 of 231
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Well, i do use the iPad now for star gazing. But pointing to a star with a device that blocks your sight is quite complicated.
It seems to me that just looking at a star is the (far) more simple approach.

 

You know Star Walk got a augmented reality mode where you can align real stars with the ones on screen.

 

Beside, I don't find complicated at all to point the sky with my iPad and find out stars and constellation names. 

post #189 of 231
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No. Because what matters is WHAT the device does, not HOW it does it.
I don't care if it had a super-computer built-in, or needs to connect via a BT-interface to a phone, that connects to your home computer, which connects to a satellite uplink , which connects to supercomputer...

All that matters is that it's a massive invasion of privacy as the device stands. How it does so is utterly irrelevant.


You are ignoring the truths.  The article wrongly called Google Glass as a cell phone.  It does not have a cell phone chip inside it.  So it can not be called a cell phone.  Google and its supporters want the fools believe that Google created a great device.  The truths is GG is not worth $1500.  Its components worth probably just $100. 

post #190 of 231
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You are ignoring the truths.  The article wrongly called Google Glass as a cell phone.  It does not have a cell phone chip inside it.  So it can not be called a cell phone.  Google and its supporters want the fools believe that Google created a great device.  The truths is GG is not worth $1500.  Its components worth probably just $100. 

Nor will it sell for $1500 when it becomes publicly available according to several blogs. The retail price guesses are more in the range of $300-500.
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post #191 of 231
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T when performing surgery...

There was an article on this a few days back.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2420852,00.asp

and in the Doctor's words:
http://rgrosssz.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/ok-glass-pass-me-the-scalpel-please-googleglass-during-surgery/
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Nor will it sell for $1500 when it becomes publicly available according to several blogs. The retail price guesses are more in the range of $300-500.


$300-$500 is still a rip off.  It can not be worth more than a cheapest Android tablet. 

post #193 of 231
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$300-$500 is still a rip off.  It can not be worth more than a cheapest Android tablet. 

It's worth what the market will bear obviously. First mover advantage and all that.
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It's worth what the market will bear obviously. First mover advantage and all that.


A lot of people think $199 for iPhone 5 is expensive. 

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A lot of people think $199 for iPhone 5 is expensive. 

And that's not what Apple sells the iPhone 5 for. A lot of people are willing to pay the non-subsidized (contract free) price of at least $649. The build cost has been estimated at around $200, with UBM saying it's even less than that, just $168 in component costs. Is Apple "ripping off" buyers too?
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And that's not what Apple sells the iPhone 5 for. A lot of people are willing to pay the non-subsidized (contract free) price of at least $649. The build cost has been estimated at around $200, with UBM saying it's even less than that, just $168 in component costs. Is Apple "ripping off" buyers too?


iPhone 5 is well built.  Google Glass is a defective device.  Its battery life lasts only a couple hours.  In order to use it you have to wear it when you need it.  Other times you need to store it.  This is very strange to other people seeing a GG using taking GG out and put it back from time to time. 


Edited by tzeshan - 7/9/13 at 10:53am
post #197 of 231
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iPhone 5 is well built.  Google Glass is a defective device.  Its battery life lasts only a couple hours. 

Are you claiming the beta developer (explorer) device being tested is identical to the up-coming consumer version? Where are you getting that info?
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Are you claiming the beta developer (explorer) device being tested is identical to the up-coming consumer version? Where are you getting that info?


One of the AI reviews said the battery life is poor.  I doubt Google can improve the battery life significantly with the consumer version.  GG designers probably do not know people wearing glasses the weight is an important factor.

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One of the AI reviews said the battery life is poor.  I doubt Google can improve the battery life significantly with the consumer version.  GG designers probably do not know people wearing glasses the weight is an important factor.

I personally think Google will find a way to significantly improve battery life. One of the changes already slated for the consumer version is an OLED display which by itself may be a big assist.
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post #200 of 231
I've always seen Glass as an experiment by Google. See what they can do with the technology and what the public will accept in terms of wearable tech.

From that perspective, it's a valuable tech. It creates discussion, gets developer interest, etc. Some of that might be fed back into other Google programs like Android.
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