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Code hidden within the latest beta of iOS 7 suggests that Apple is planning to add a camera capable of recording 120-frames-per-second video to a future iPhone model.

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A new camera feature referred to as "Mogul" was allegedly discovered in the third beta of iOS 7 by 9to5Mac. Tests suggested that the new software feature will allow video recording of 120 frames-per-second (fps) at an unknown resolution.

The addition of 120fps video would allow a future iPhone to offer crisp detail when playing videos back in slow motion. Such functionality is popular with sports cameras such as the wearable GoPro Hero3.

While the 120fps feature remains a secret, Apple has already revealed to developers that iOS 7 will give them the ability to record 60fps video with their iPhone applications.

There are currently applications on the iOS App Store, such as SloPro, which simulate high framerates in recording. However, in iOS 6, developers are not able to capture raw video at anything greater than 30 frames per second.



The addition of 120fps video in this year's anticipated iPhone upgrade would allow Apple to stay on par with Samsung's latest flagship handset, the Galaxy S4. That handset also offers super-slow-motion video capture capabilities with 120fps recordings.

This year, Apple has run an ad touting the fact that the iPhone is the most used camera in the world. And last year, the company promoted the new panorama capture feature that debuted in iOS 6.

However, hints of 120fps support in iOS 7 are not necessarily proof that the feature will appear in the next iPhone. For example, elements of an unfinished panorama feature were discovered in iOS 5 in 2011, more than a year before Apple would actually add it.
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Well... half normal speed. It's no femtosecond camera.

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Well... half normal speed. It's no femtosecond camera.

wouldn't 120fps be 1/4 speed, (i thought 30fps was 'normal'

even if 120 fps is 1/4 normal - its slow motion - can hardly call it SUPER slow motion

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Not totally true I have an app that since ios 6 can not shoot 60fps anymore . Was capable of 500fps to 1000 . really cool.Yayy for ios 7!
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wouldn't 120fps be 1/4 speed, (i thought 30fps was 'normal'
even if 120 fps is 1/4 normal - its slow motion - can hardly call it SUPER slow motion

Yep, but I'm just calling 60 the new standard.

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Yep, but I'm just calling 60 the new standard.

Then you're wrong

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Yep, but I'm just calling 60 the new standard.

ok, 

but the article is about iPhone - and that is 30fps now 

from Apple:

(Video recording, HD (1080p) up to 30 frames per second with audio)

so 120fps could give us 1/4 speed slo-mo   - but its still not SUPER - slo mo - not sure why the article uses super

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Well... half normal speed. It's no femtosecond camera.

 

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wouldn't 120fps be 1/4 speed, (i thought 30fps was 'normal'

even if 120 fps is 1/4 normal - its slow motion - can hardly call it SUPER slow motion

 

That would be twice or 4 times the speed. 

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That would be twice or 4 times the speed. 

4 times the speed of recording, so its slow motion replay, or 1/4 speed replay

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I dig it.

http://youtu.be/mfdJQGatcP0

That's gross. A jogger with black earphones, yak.
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4 times the speed of recording, so its slow motion replay, or 1/4 speed replay

 

1/2 or 1/4 would make sense if you were comparing play-back speed with "real time" (there's a better term for this but it escapes me). But the two of you were comparing 120 fps against 60 and 30.

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ok, 
but the article is about iPhone - and that is 30fps now 
from Apple: Video recording, HD (1080p) up to 30 frames per second with audio)

Right, but 60 is the new standard, as per the slide from WWDC.
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4 times the speed of recording, so its slow motion replay, or 1/4 speed replay

103% of the speed. 1wink.gif

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I dig it.

http://youtu.be/mfdJQGatcP0

That's gross. A jogger with black earphones, yak.

Here's some without earphones 1wink.gif (NSFW):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoxIvc7W74I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgcmbZL_aTA

Yeah, some moments in life work better with a little slo-mo.
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Yeah, some moments in life work better with a little slo-mo.

Oh my, it's booby time.

First link gave me a "not available on this platform" but that might be due to hitting your link on my iPad. I actually wonder if the second video is watchable in normal speed, cause all I see is the next smart watch bumper. Bumping and bumping. And then some.
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The thing is, if you can record 120fps, you can pretty easily SUPER slow it down in software without making things look blurry. 

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Well... half normal speed. It's no femtosecond camera.

Without the 300mm zoom and the thermal option, it's still meaningless and inadequate.

 

Cheers

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First link gave me a "not available on this platform" but that might be due to hitting your link on my iPad.

It loads in HTML5 ok, maybe Apple banning sexy again 1frown.gif.
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I actually wonder if the second video is watchable in normal speed, cause all I see is the next smart watch bumper. Bumping and bumping. And then some.

Smart watches would be problematic for this type of thing, you'd have to pick the best arm to wear it on in advance. 1biggrin.gif
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The thing is, if you can record 120fps, you can pretty easily SUPER slow it down in software without making things look blurry.

It's not so much blurriness but judder. If you shoot at 30fps and you slow it down, you only get 7.5fps, which is still as sharp as the original but not smooth playback. 120fps slowed down 4x gives you 30fps.
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Meh, my camera will do 120 fps at 5k! And it only costs $25,000! ;)

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How does AI get 120 fps if the Apple iOS 7 Feature Screenshot clearly shows 60 fps recording listed????

Also why is Apple always late to develop things that other smartphones already do?? It was late late to LTE, late to video recording, higher camera MP's, etc. It's already late to Wifi AC with the HTC ONE being the first to do that, Casio and Samsung already made waterproof devices and another thing they've never bothered to do is haptic feedback or keyboard and sounds in 3D according to how the gyroscope is positioned.

Apple's iPhone is lacking so far behind it's iPhone 4 can still run iOS 7 and that's a bad thing in my opinion since they've disabled 3D/Panorama/Moving Wallpapers, 3D Maps, and Siri on it since iOS 5 and it's perfectly able to with some jailbreak tweaks.

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How does AI get 120 fps if the Apple iOS 7 Feature Screenshot clearly shows 60 fps recording listed????

Also why is Apple always late to develop things that other smartphones already do?? It was late late to LTE, late to video recording, higher camera MP's, etc. It's already late to Wifi AC with the HTC ONE being the first to do that, Casio and Samsung already made waterproof devices and another thing they've never bothered to do is haptic feedback or keyboard and sounds in 3D according to how the gyroscope is positioned.

Apple's iPhone is lacking so far behind it's iPhone 4 can still run iOS 7 and that's a bad thing in my opinion since they've disabled 3D/Panorama/Moving Wallpapers, 3D Maps, and Siri on it since iOS 5 and it's perfectly able to with some jailbreak tweaks.

 

Apple makes decisions based on what will be used by the majority of users, versus the cost (and other effects) of including something.

 

LTE is the perfect example.  Sure, they could have added LTE earlier.  But it would have added cost, and at the time there was almost no real LTE coverage.  So, it would be added cost without added benefit (for almost everyone).

 

As to being waterproof, I've never quite understood this.  Why?  How about you just don't drop it in a toilet?  There are notebooks, for example, that are designed specifically for very harsh environments.  But that is an extremely specific use case.  You can always find something that will destroy your phone.  Apple trying to make the iPhone something you can drop in the water, drop onto the concrete, whatever -- all that will do is change the aesthetic of the iPhone, and add cost.

 

Again, don't do those things.

 

I can't tell you how much I would despise haptic feedback.

post #22 of 27
In that case, let's hope that the minimum storage gets bumped up to 32Gb then, at the same price point.
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"The addition of 120fps video in this year's anticipated iPhone upgrade would allow Apple to stay on par with Samsung's latest flagship handset, the Galaxy S4. That handset also offers super-slow-motion video capture capabilities with 120fps recordings. "

What ?! Yes it is 120 fps but the resolution is cripled to 800 by 450 !
I think Apple will come with Full HD 120 fps video and those 60 fps will be on the front ! http://www.telepresenceoptions.com/2013/05/new_omnivision_ov2724_promises/
(Maybe will be used in new MB pro's as well)
I heavily doubdt they will exchange video quality for fps in a "slow motion mode" like samsung does...
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How does AI get 120 fps if the Apple iOS 7 Feature Screenshot clearly shows 60 fps recording listed????

 

Don't you really hate it when posts hide the information you want right on the very first line.

 

 

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Code hidden within the latest beta of iOS 7 suggests that Apple is planning to add a camera capable of recording 120-frames-per-second video to a future iPhone model.
 
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Originally Posted by Marvin View Post

...maybe Apple banning sexy again 1frown.gif.

LOL
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Smart watches would be problematic for this type of thing, you'd have to pick the best arm to wear it on in advance. 1biggrin.gif

Double LOL
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judder

I like that, seems fitting.
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How does AI get 120 fps if the Apple iOS 7 Feature Screenshot clearly shows 60 fps recording listed????

Maybe read the article.
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Also why is Apple always late to develop things that other smartphones already do??

Because they actually do it correctly.
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...another thing they've never bothered to do is haptic feedback...

Because that's stupid.
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Apple's iPhone is lacking so far behind...

Just leave, please.

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post #27 of 27
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In that case, let's hope that the minimum storage gets bumped up to 32Gb then, at the same price point.
Hopefully, I expect it to have at least 1 change in storage.

This was simple rumor with this but what about it having 240 maybe, and it be 15 megapixel release?
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