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The struggle for third place in the smartphone operating system wars may be settling, as Nokia's newly revealed financial figures show its Lumia line shipping more units last quarter than all of BlackBerry's phones.



Nokia moved 7.4 million units of its Windows Phone 8-powered Lumia line in the second quarter, up 32 percent from the previous quarter but still lower than analysts had expected. The Finnish phone maker posted an operating loss of about $151 million on $7.46 billion in revenue for the quarter.

The financial figures are indicative of a mixed recovery for the struggling manufacturer, Though the 7.4-million figure is lower than anticipated, the figure situates Nokia and the Windows Phone platform securely in third place among smartphone operating systems, just ahead of the faltering BlackBerry.

The last two years have seen both Nokia and BlackBerry struggling to retain relevance in a segment the two firms once dominated, but BlackBerry has seemingly fared worse. Formerly Research in Motion, BlackBerry has fallen particularly far since its heyday.

This past quarter, the Canadian phone maker posted an $84 million loss as demand for its new BlackBerry 10 devices cooled shortly after their launch. BlackBerry shipped 6.8 million smartphones in the quarter, and less than half of those ran BlackBerry OS 10, the company's newest operating system.

Nokia has not fared much better since it "bet the company" on Microsoft's Windows Phone platform, but for now its Windows Phone devices are trending upward. Since the fourth quarter of 2011, Nokia has been on a slow rise, while BlackBerry has tumbled.

Both firms have struggled for attention in the U.S., with Nokia and Microsoft resorting to mocking the major smartphone players to try to gain mindshare and BlackBerry expanding its central services to cover both Android and iOS. Those latter two platforms make up more than 90 percent of all smartphones shipped worldwide, and Apple and Samsung capture virtually all of the profit in the smartphone segment.

Smartphone shipments will number in the billions per year in just a short time, though, so even third place in the platform wars could still prove a lucrative position. At Microsoft's Build developer conference last month the company boasted that its new Windows Phone 8 operating system had surpassed BlackBerry.

"We think we're solidly the third ecosystem right now," Windows Phone product manager Larry Lieberman said at the time. "That's a huge announcement in some respects."
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Good for Microsoft.

I'm sure as businesses drop blackberry, iOS and Windows are on the top of their list.

With Office 365 for iPhone though its probably an easy decision for them
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Blackberry is a total mess. Their ship is sinking, and if you visit crackberry forums, you'll see massive infighting, between those who have had enough of their lies and are finally abandoning blackberry and those who will stick around to the very end. The Russians are closing in, they're only a few miles away, and yet a few people are still sitting in a bunker thinking that everything is just fine and dandy.
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Nokia was smart betting on Microsoft. Microsoft is too big, too powerful to fail. Blackberry is alone and it will fail.

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I won't be terribly surprised to see Nokia sell off the phone business altogether. It's been losing money and marketshare for some time. If it wasn't for their Nokia/Siemans Network revenue (soon solely belonging to Nokia), a true money-maker for them, they'd be in pretty serious trouble.
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Shipments.

A "solid third" at 3-4 % share when the front runners are way into the double digits is not "solid." The needle has barely moved upward for Windows Phone since October 2010.

Windows Phone is not a Mac. The smartphone market is not the desktops/notebooks market. Nokia can't afford to keep investing a pile of resources for consistently little return.
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New Windows Phone ad: We're doing as well as Blackberry! Huzzah!

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I won't be terribly surprised to see Nokia sell off the phone business altogether. It's been losing money and marketshare for some time. If it wasn't for their Nokia/Siemans Network revenue (soon solely belonging to Nokia), a true money-maker for them, they'd be in pretty serious trouble.

I doubt it. I found somewhere that major looser for Nokia in Q2 was their Asha line of kinda-smartphones, which seems to be going down the drain. Considering that entry WP8 units are price competitive with better UI and ore apps available, I'm pretty sure Nokia will cut-off Asha and refocus some of their resources elsewhere. Nokia tablet(s) are being rumoured for a while. I wouldn't be surprised to see them going into ultrabooks/hybrids in foreseeable future as well.

Considering that Nokia's operational lost was close to 1B US$ this time last year, they are trending quite well. If they haven't gave up in their darkest hour, why would they do it now when they seem to be on a path of recovery..?
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Nokia was smart betting on Microsoft. Microsoft is too big, too powerful to fail. Blackberry is alone and it will fail.

Agreed, they are doing better than they could have done becoming another "Me to" Android manufacter.  Although, I feel that they should have gone with the N9 OS (Meego)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N9

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I won't be terribly surprised to see Nokia sell off the phone business altogether. It's been losing money and marketshare for some time. If it wasn't for their Nokia/Siemans Network revenue (soon solely belonging to Nokia), a true money-maker for them, they'd be in pretty serious trouble.

One theory (that I feel is possible) is that Elop became CEO so he could tank Nokia shares, etc so that MS could buy all of Nokia on the cheap.

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Shipments.

A "solid third" at 3-4 % share when the front runners are way into the double digits is not "solid." The needle has barely moved upward for Windows Phone since October 2010.

Windows Phone is not a Mac. The smartphone market is not the desktops/notebooks market. Nokia can't afford to keep investing a pile of resources for consistently little return.

Um, the marketshare is rising, it was 4.6% last I heard/checked.  In addition, the main line of Phones (Lumia) is selling at a pretty steady increasing rate. 

Nokia cannot, but Microsoft can.  See my reply to the post above this one.

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New Windows Phone ad: We're doing as well as Blackberry! Huzzah!

LOL! :)
 Better, actually.  hahahaha, this makes me laugh (well, more like chuckle) ^^
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