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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

Wo, this is so terribly, terribly bad and misleading.  It skirts the border of false advertising.  

 

The price comparison leaves out the fact that you need to buy the typing cover extra for the surface, yet describes it as a major feature.  On the other hand one of the "major" points they make against the iPad is that it can't stand up, but if they included the iPad cover, of course it can.  Also, while they include the keyboard accessory for the Surface in order to say that it comes with a keyboard, they don't include or mention the fact that the iPad has a USB accessory that will make it read the USB stick.  It's completely twisted, purposely misleading and basically comparing Apple's to Oranges. 


To me these days most ads feel more like warnings than enticements (especially for fast food and the like).

That said, they're sitting on likely 2M + of these units they have to get out the door before the next model they've committed to making for RT 8.1....  ...so they're obviously feeling "they got to move these refrigerators"... ...by any tactics they think will help (whether they do or not).

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post #82 of 99
How does Ballmer still have a job?????
post #83 of 99
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Originally Posted by scottkitts View Post

Oh yah, and maybe talking to a Surface... And not getting any response.

You can give Surface commands via voice and do voice dictation. Personally I never liked using Siri or any other voice command software.
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post #84 of 99
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Originally Posted by DroidFTW View Post

The approach that MS takes in this ad just further proves how clueless they are when it comes to mobile computing.

 

More importantly, I think it shows how clueless they think WE are...

post #85 of 99
Not having peripherals is good, the iPad doesn't need peripherals. Less clutter, less cost, and less things to carry along with iPad.
post #86 of 99
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Originally Posted by Relic View Post

There's four, the "mini's" have been discontinued and the majority of devices now just use Micro-B. The new Micro USB 3 will just have one adapter type. There were a few companies that did make their own Mini USB adapters like HTC but they stopped doing it to adhere to a single standard, Micro-B.



USB Micro 3.0

I just bought a current model Sony NEX camera, it came with mini USB.

Using a different mini USB cable wouldn't allow a firmware update, I had to use the supplied one.

I don't want two connectors on my iPad, I want one, one that can handle HDMI, USB and whatever comes along in future.

Never underestimate the effect of wetware, I've seen plenty of damaged micro USB ports and cables which have been subject to forcing the plug in the wrong way.

Lightening is so much better in this regard.
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post #87 of 99
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Originally Posted by hill60 View Post

I just bought a current model Sony NEX camera, it came with mini USB.

Using a different mini USB cable wouldn't allow a firmware update, I had to use the supplied one.

I don't want two connectors on my iPad, I want one, one that can handle HDMI, USB and whatever comes along in future.

Never underestimate the effect of wetware, I've seen plenty of damaged micro USB ports and cables which have been subject to forcing the plug in the wrong way.

Lightening is so much better in this regard.

I just checked the current Sony NEX line, most models have already moved on to Micro-B except for their cheapest model the Nex-3N. Sony will update that as well as all of their USB accessories are now Micro-B.

NEX-5R 2013
http://www.amazon.com/computers-accessories/dp/B00ATSL7QY
NEX-6 2013
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Alpha-NEX-6-USB-Cable/dp/B00ATSL7HI

I love being able to connect a straight HDMI cable into my phone, it's just so much more convenient than having to drag along another adaptor. That and the Lightning Digital AV Adapter sucks, video quality is subpar, no 1080p, expensive, I long for a raw HDMI connection.
Edited by Relic - 7/20/13 at 11:44pm
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post #88 of 99
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Originally Posted by rossistboss View Post

Not having peripherals is good, the iPad doesn't need peripherals. Less clutter, less cost, and less things to carry along with iPad.

The iPad/iPhone have the most peripherals than any other gadgets on the market.
Edited by Relic - 7/20/13 at 11:45pm
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post #89 of 99
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Originally Posted by Relic View Post

I just checked the current Sony NEX line, most models have already moved on to Micro-B except for their cheapest model the Nex-3N. Sony will update that as well as all of their USB accessories are now Micro-B.

NEX-5R 2013
http://www.amazon.com/computers-accessories/dp/B00ATSL7QY
NEX-6 2013
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Alpha-NEX-6-USB-Cable/dp/B00ATSL7HI

I love being able to connect a straight HDMI cable into my phone, it's just so much more convenient than having to drag along another adaptor. That and the Lightning Digital AV Adapter sucks, video quality is subpar, no 1080p, expensive, I long for a raw HDMI connection.

I have the NEX 7, top of the range.

It's mini USB.

Edit: error correction.
Edited by hill60 - 7/21/13 at 1:35am
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post #90 of 99
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I have the NEX 7, top of the range.

It's micro.

You mean Mini, Micro is the newer one and you're right, sorry I missed that one but the NEX-7 was released in late 2011 making it the oldest in the lineup and it is getting an update in the next few months and will definitely be Micro-B, Sony has discontinued the use of Mini-B as has every other company, they started doing this early last year, the new standard is Micro-B.

Do you like it, I have been looking at one too. I can't decide over the Sony or the Nikon 1 V2. How is it in low light?

I guess in anticipation for the new model Amazon and many other online shops are giving away instant rebates and even accessories, so it looks like a great time to buy.
Edited by Relic - 7/21/13 at 1:41am
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post #91 of 99
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You mean Mini, Micro is the newer the one and you're right, sorry I missed that one but the NEX-7 was released in late 2011 making it the oldest in the lineup and it is getting an update in the next few months and will definitely be Micro-B.

Do you like it, I have been looking at one too. I can't decide over the Sony or the Nikon 1 V2. How is it in low light?

It's awesome, I updated an old NEX 5 , as I already had three lenses.

Sony is set to announce it's successor in the fall which is rumoured to have a full sized sensor among other things, including no doubt, micro USB 1wink.gif
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post #92 of 99
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Sony is set to announce it's successor in the fall which is rumoured to have a full sized sensor among other things, including no doubt, micro USB 1wink.gif

Oh my gosh a full sensor, that's Canon 5D territory, so cool. Sony sure knows how to make a great prosumer camera, thanks for the tip.
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post #93 of 99
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Originally Posted by Relic View Post

It's not buried, bring up the Charms on the right and just tap the little icon of the screen once, done.

Are they magically delicious? And what do you do with all the pesky leprechauns? Sounds like a hassle.
post #94 of 99

So Microsoft is demonstrating that you need to carry around a bunch of additional crap to make their tablet useful? I'm sure that will work out just fine... lol.gif

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post #95 of 99
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Originally Posted by Scannall View Post

So Microsoft is demonstrating that you need to carry around a bunch of additional crap to make their tablet useful? I'm sure that will work out just fine... lol.gif

Don't be so obtuse, they demonstrated ONE peripheral, a clip on keyboard. The Surface RT or Pro work just fine without one.
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post #96 of 99
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

What is the point in having a data transfer rate faster than the speed at which the device can read/write? Just creates a bottle neck. USB2 speeds are already faster than the ipad can physically transfer the data. Making your comment pointless.
One day transfer rates will be faster.

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Originally Posted by Relic View Post

Not only that but the Lightning adaptor has a USB 2.0 adapter on one end so whatever advantages speed wise are completely lost. I would have much prefered a Micro-USB adaptor and a dedicated HDMI out. The whole reason behind the Lightning idea was so Apple could charge accessory manufactures a licensing fee. They could have easily been one of the first companies to support the new Micro-USB 3 standard which has the same power output as Lighting with much quicker data transfer speeds. Yes Apple will support USB 3.0 soon enough with their Lightning adaptor but standardization is much more beneficial to the consumer.

Does anybody really know, the current lighting might support USB 3.1 or thunderbolt 2.0, do they really?
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Originally Posted by Relic View Post

There's four, the "mini's" have been discontinued and the majority of devices now just use Micro-B. The new Micro USB 3 will just have one adapter type. There were a few companies that did make their own Mini USB adapters like HTC but they stopped doing it to adhere to a single standard, Micro-B.



USB Micro 3.0
Could you explain why lighting and 30 pin are different?

Anyway this USB has and is been/being the standards for P.C. And Mac and some phones for years. I want to see a new single standard on all in the next 20 years.
post #97 of 99
RT is a loser, a lightweight PRO 2.0 can be a game changer!
post #98 of 99
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Originally Posted by Curtis Hannah View Post

One day transfer rates will be faster.
Does anybody really know, the current lighting might support USB 3.1 or thunderbolt 2.0, do they really?
Could you explain why lighting and 30 pin are different?

Anyway this USB has and is been/being the standards for P.C. And Mac and some phones for years. I want to see a new single standard on all in the next 20 years.

One day transfer rates may be faster. Lol, yup. But that day is not now, and I can't remember the last time I connected my ipad or phone via a cable for the purposes of data transfer. But the lighting connector can do so much more and the pins dynamically assigned using software, so it's a clear winner and has obvious advantages of the USB 'standard'.
post #99 of 99
After 16 years of developing software for Win professionally I tried Mac and what a surprise - I am in love with it. Shame on microsoft tying to compete such way. Everything apple is making is way ahead and made with people usability and design in mind. Microsoft will never win with this slab and win8 on it!
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