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Apple's latest iOS 7 beta includes a reference to a "Biometric Kit," offering the strongest evidence yet that the company's next iPhone will include a built-in fingerprint scanner underneath the home button.

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iOS 7 beta 4 includes a reference to a "Biometric Kit." Screenshot via Hamza Sood.


A folder entitled "BiometricKitUI.axb" was discovered in iOS 7 beta 4 on Monday by Hamza Sood. A text string accompanying the folder describes an image showing a person "holding an iPhone with their right hand while touching the Home button with their thumb."

Another string of text shows that the system will inform users on the completion status of scanning their fingerprint, presumably counting up to 100 percent.

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iOS 7 beta 4 text strings. Screenshot via Hamza Sood.


The rumored "iPhone 5S" feature is believed to be powered by Apple's $356 million acquisition of AuthenTec last summer. The firm described that its "semiconductor-based sensors are based on both capacitive and radio frequency (RF) technology that detects an image of the fingerprint ridge and valley pattern beneath the surface of the skin, thus capturing sharp and clear fingerprint patterns from the live layer."



"This approach, which is in marked contrast with optical, thermal and other solutions that simply read the surface of the skin, gives AuthenTec sensors significant advantages in image quality and in the protective coatings that the sensor can image through."

A supercharged Home button



AppleInsider noted last August that Authentec's AES850 component, called "the world?s smallest authentication/navigation smart sensor in a durable package," appeared capable of serving as an iPhone Home button.

"This could allow Apple to supercharge its iOS Home button, enabling users to initiate different tasks (such as launching specific apps, Siri or Spotlight search; call a particular favorite contact; start a specific playlist or ask for directions to get home) with different fingers," our report stated.

"In addition," it detailed, "AuthenTec's Smart Sensor can also be used to provide touch-based navigation, functioning as a 'precise cursor control for text editing,' with support for '360 degree mouse navigation,' 'optical joystick emulation,' or as a 'unique turbo-scroll feature for rapid browsing of long emails, contact lists or websites,' according to public information released by the firm prior to its acquisition."

In January, well-connected insider Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities cited sources as confirming that Apple was planning to include a fingerprint sensor underneath the home button in this year's iPhone upgrade.

According to Kuo, users will simply place their thumb over the iPhone's home button when prompted. This will allow the device to identify the user for various tasks such as entering passwords or authorizing purchases.

AuthenTec's "Smart Sensor" component is believed to be the key piece of technology Apple was interested in acquiring. That product measured just 1.3 millimeters thick while being able to scan 500 pixels per inch.
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This, to me, would be one of the best improvements to the iPhone since its inception, in terms of actual usage. Would be so awesome not having to enter passwords 73,293 times a day. Definitely make usage more enjoyable and efficient.
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So, will NSA have all our thumbprints soon?
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People were suggesting that technology on this forum for the home button long before January.

 

Maybe with this + NFC, Passbook will be a functional app finally

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Very interesting...do we need more evidence. Is this explicit enough to discount the scanner in the screen?
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pretty sure the NSA already does.
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I would imagine this complements your actual password rather than replaces it as you still need to enter a password on your mac. It does have one attribute a password does not: it cannot be shared.
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Well-connected insider Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities was first to reveal in January that Apple is allegedly planning to include a fingerprint sensor underneath the home button in this year's iPhone upgrade. The rumored "iPhone 5S" feature is believed to be powered by Apple's acquisition of AuthenTec last year for $356 million.

So basically he just simply adjusted the previous rumors about how this very thing was going to be in the iPhone 5 and changed it to the 5S after the previous rumors were shown to be wrong. What is the amazing revelation in that?

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That biometrics thing could also be for iwatch or other wearable devices.

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Then I see what Samsung will do next,

Invent a keychain with NFC chip,

Bump it with the phone to unlock it.

Make an Ad having bunch of people in front of Apple store,

 

And that's is Galaxy S5.

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I would imagine this complements your actual password rather than replaces it as you still need to enter a password on your mac. It does have one attribute a password does not: it cannot be shared.

 

I'm sure there will be options in Settings for how you want to use the fingerprint unlock. It would be wise to still have a passcode option especially if you have someone else using your phone.

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This feature can distinguish iPhone 5s from those crisply large android phones.
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Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

Would be so awesome not having to enter passwords 73,293 times a day.

Impossible! 1biggrin.gif

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So basically he just simply adjusted the previous rumors about how this very thing was going to be in the iPhone 5 and changed it to the 5S after the previous rumors were shown to be wrong. What is the amazing revelation in that?

Amazing revelation? He's usually accurate, there's no revelation about it. Quit trying to be such an ass, and spank yourself for being wrong.
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No more pin, e-mail/passwords, etc. A secure system. Truly a step forward. YES!

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The usefulness of this depends a lot on how quickly the scanning happens. Nobody wants to hold down for 5 seconds waiting for their phone to open.
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The usefulness of this depends a lot on how quickly the scanning happens. Nobody wants to hold down for 5 seconds waiting for their phone to open.

 

There's no reason it would take 5 seconds. 

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The bigger question is...which iPhone is this feature going to be available? I doubt iPhone 5S will have it, maybe 6 or 6S then.

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Apple's latest iOS 7 beta includes a reference to a "Biometric Kit," offering the strongest evidence yet that the company's next iPhone will include a built-in fingerprint scanner underneath the home button.
 

 

This will be one of those things that prevents margin erosion - by both Android knockoffs and the "cheap" iPhone.  

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Amazing revelation? He's usually accurate, there's no revelation about it. Quit trying to be such an ass, and spank yourself for being wrong.

He's not accurate. He simply shifts the product and/or release date until eventually he might be right about a rumor. And in this case he simply used hindsight to change the previous rumor from 5 to 5S. That's about it. He's no more accurate than a expert colder reader pretending to be a spirit medium.

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The usefulness of this depends a lot on how quickly the scanning happens. Nobody wants to hold down for 5 seconds waiting for their phone to open.

It might take a little longer than entering a 4 digit passcode. I know our biometric scanner takes about 5 seconds but that is the whole palm not just the thumb. Either way it does add convenience if it is part of your keychain and can be used for other passwords besides the lock screen.

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There's no reason it would take 5 seconds. 

Why is that?
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There's no reason it would take 5 seconds. 

How do you know that?  It will take however long it needs to based on the scanner hardware, software algorithms, dirt/dust, finger position, and quality of the fingerprint capture. 

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The bigger question is...which iPhone is this feature going to be available? I doubt iPhone 5S will have it, maybe 6 or 6S then.

Use your head. It wouldn't even be in this software if an iDevice wasn't being released with it. The 8th iPhone won't even run iOS 7, for heaven's sake.

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I can break your arm if I apply enough force, but in normal handshaking this won't happen ever.
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No more pin, e-mail/passwords, etc. A secure system. Truly a step forward. YES!

What happens if you were to cut your finger temporarily or worse permanently damaging your finger print?
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boy, we are so close of breaking $450 today.  There is major resistance there.

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What happens if you were to cut your finger temporarily or worse permanently damaging your finger print?

It will still very likely have an option for a PIN code or some other alternate method to gain access to your phone as a back up. 

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What happens if you were to cut your finger temporarily or worse permanently damaging your finger print?

 

Then you'd need to fall back to typing in a password. And if your fingers were chopped off completely, then you'd need to revert to using another fallback to enter your credentials, like asking for help. 

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I wish the scanner was inside/beneath the screen and not in the home button.
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In January, well-connected insider Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities....

There you go again.

 

I look forward to a blog some day on how and why Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities walks on water for you guys....lol.gif

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Amazing revelation? He's usually accurate, there's no revelation about it. Quit trying to be such an ass, and spank yourself for being wrong.

Are you Ming-Chi Kuo?

 

You pop up singing his praises every time AI writes a story mentioning him.

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He's not accurate. He simply shifts the product and/or release date until eventually he might be right about a rumor. And in this case he simply used hindsight to change the previous rumor from 5 to 5S. That's about it. He's no more accurate than a expert colder reader pretending to be a spirit medium.

So he describes that Apple is planning to place the sensor under the home button in January, today's leaks confirm exactly that, and all you can say is "he just keeps pushing dates back until he's right". You're not very bright are you?

I also seem to recall early this year when everyone was thinking that there would be a new iPhone at WWDC, but Ming Chi Kuo said all the way back in January that the software engineering for the scanner UI would take too long for for a summer release. The mans got good sources. Today 9to5Mac confirmed the UI for the scanner is now completed.
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Are you Ming-Chi Kuo?

You pop up singing his praises every time AI writes a story mentioning him.

Every time? I've posted in 2 or 3 AI threads in my entire life. And I didn't bring him up at all, that mike jones character brought him up. I don't understand the contentiousness a few of you "NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING EVAR" people. Accurate stuff about Apple's plans leaks all the time.... from Ming Chi Kuo, for example. And 9to5Mac. I would say Dalrymple too but he uses his sources only to discredit bad rumors usually pertaining to keynote dates.
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This, to me, would be one of the best improvements to the iPhone since its inception, in terms of actual usage. Would be so awesome not having to enter passwords 73,293 times a day. Definitely make usage more enjoyable and efficient.

If it works well, it will have huge implications for technology.

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

This will allow the device to identify the user for various tasks such as entering passwords or authorizing purchases.

 

How about this:

 

iOS 7: fingerprint sensing replaces password entry, for unlocking iPhone / iPad and for online purchases.

iOS 8: fingerprint sensing authorizes purchases in participating brick-and-mortar stores.

 

Apple could first test fingerprint sensing purchase authorization in Apple Stores around the world.

It's not like there's any pressure to bring that to market yet.  Better to take their time and get it right.

Apple might even expand the "iTunes Store" to the "iCloud Store" for general brick-and-mortar retail store transactions.

There are hundreds of millions of iTunes accounts to leverage.

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The most important question for me is: Is this still a physical button? Because I really HATE that stupid home button! It never does what I intend to do. I press once and it register randomly one, two or three presses. I HATE IT!
 

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This is going to be totally awesome!, I hope.1biggrin.gif

If this is truly an advanced and secure fingerprint scanner, then it will be one of the most important iPhone features to ever have been added. I'd rather place my thumb on the home button instead of entering passwords all day long. And the average joe on the street is a dumbass using ridiculously easy passwords to break, so this fingerprint scanner system will be a huge step up in security for everybody!

Since we're talking about Apple, I can only assume that they're going to do it right, and not have a complete gimmick and toy like that horrible Android face recognition scam, which was a total joke, which was no surprise since Android is the least secure OS around.

I also hope that it will only work with living flesh, otherwise you could just cut off somebody's thumb and gain access to their phone.
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The most important question for me is: Is this still a physical button? Because I really HATE that stupid home button! It never does what I intend to do. I press once and it register randomly one, two or three presses. I HATE IT!

Take better care of it, then. I certainly hope it's still physical. We'll have users whining about how their phone locked up and there was "nothing they could do" otherwise.

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I can break your arm if I apply enough force, but in normal handshaking this won't happen ever.
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Interestingly, AuthenTec used to make biometric fingerprint sensors for Android phones before Apple purchased them last year. It was actually an interesting concept with the Motorola Atrix phones.

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