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According to a report from the Far East on Monday, Apple partner manufacturer Foxconn is in the midst of hiring 90,000 workers in preparation of expectedly large orders of the next-generation iPhone.

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Citing sources familiar with the matter, Taiwanese publication Focus Taiwan reports Hon Hai, better known as Foxconn, is starting a massive round of recruiting for its Shenzhen factory that will add as many as 90,000 people to the plant's workforce.

Foxconn instituted a hiring freeze earlier this year to adjust for an unexpectedly high number of returning workers after the Chinese New Year. The company resumed recruitment operations in April to manage Apple's yearly production ramp for its latest flagship iPhone.

While Foxconn is thought to be handling assembly of the so-called "iPhone 5S," Apple partner supplier Pegatron will supposedly be responsible for a low-cost handset made of polycarbonate or plastic. In May, Pegatron was also reported to have initiated a hiring drive for some 40,000 workers, a 40 percent boost to its workforce, to cope with added iPhone orders.

Apple is widely expected to debut a next-generation iPhone model alongside a cheaper handset this fall, though an exact launch timeframe is disputed. According to well-connected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, the iPhone 5S has been a challenge to manufacture and may see limited availability following a release at the end of September. He noted that production of the low-cost version is on track and should be ready for an early-September unveiling if Apple chooses to separate the two device launches.

The iPhone 5S is thought to retain the design of Apple's current iPhone 5, but will likely have upgraded internals like a faster processor and camera enhancements. It is also speculated that the next iPhone could boast a biometric fingerprint reader built into its home button. That rumor was bolstered by some hard evidence on Monday, when references to a "Biometric Kit" were discovered in the latest iOS 7 beta code.
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This is interesting but I'm sure the polycarbonate iPhone is going to sell in bigger numbers than the 5S, and it could potentially eat into 5S sales.

Hopefully this production ramp won't lead to an oversupply of unsold 5Ss in the wake of the iPhone "5C".
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This is interesting but I'm sure the polycarbonate iPhone is going to sell in bigger numbers than the 5S, and it could potentially eat into 5S sales.

Hopefully this production ramp won't lead to an oversupply of unsold 5Ss in the wake of the iPhone "5C".


$100-$200 savings for many does not matter.  Low cost iPhone will bring in new buyers who wants to save some money and get hands on Apple brand!

Low cost iPhone will see significant boost in the emerging markets!

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This is interesting but I'm sure the polycarbonate iPhone is going to sell in bigger numbers than the 5S, and it could potentially eat into 5S sales.

The 4 and 4S don't sell more than the 5. It has nothing to do with the hardware.

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I'd love to see what happens if Apple decides to not provide 5C phones to US carriers - assuming it is intended for developing markets only. Reverse gray market world be really exciting to watch, provided they are compatible and unlocked. 

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The 5s is going to increase in price.
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I'd love to see what happens if Apple decides to not provide 5C phones to US carriers - assuming it is intended for developing markets only. Reverse gray market world be really exciting to watch, provided they are compatible and unlocked. 

When has Apple ever done that? That's not in their play book.

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$100-$200 savings for many does not matter.  Low cost iPhone will bring in new buyers who wants to save some money and get hands on Apple brand!

Low cost iPhone will see significant boost in the emerging markets!

 

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The 4 and 4S don't sell more than the 5. It has nothing to do with the hardware.

 

True, but if we are to believe the statistics, the high end iPhone makes up 50% of sales currently. With the "5C" supposedly replacing both low end options we can assume it could make up 50% or more of total iPhone sales.

 

If the 5C gains additional traction in markets where the 4/4S weren't able to do well, that would push the 5C to a higher percentage of overall iPhone sales than the higher end model.

 

I think the 5S will do well, and I will certainly be buying one, but the 5C could steal the show and eat into high end sales. Anyway how much it will cannibalize remains to be seen, so who knows maybe you guys are right that the cheap iPhone won't affect the high end iPhone's sales rate.

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I'd love to see what happens if Apple decides to not provide 5C phones to US carriers - assuming it is intended for developing markets only. Reverse gray market world be really exciting to watch, provided they are compatible and unlocked. 

 

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When has Apple ever done that? That's not in their play book.

 

Yeah that would be terrible.

 

You know if that were to happen, the "cheap" 5C would probably cost more than the 5S for us in the states? The price alone would eliminate any black/grey market for the device.

 

Anyway the whole point of the 5C is to replace the 4/4S with a modern device, so it will obviously be a global phone not a regional phone.

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When has Apple ever done that? That's not in their play book.

I can't recall Apple ever doing that but every other one of their competitors has made different versions of devices for different markets. The simple fact that they are even making a 'economy' phone kind of throws the playbook out the window. I really don't expect that to occur just that it would be interesting.

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If you don't cannibalize your own sales, someone else will.

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Low cost iPhone will see significant boost in the emerging markets!

Emerging markets are already buying Android phones for $100

The lowest cost iPhone is currently $450

How inexpensive do you think the plastic iPhone will be? 1eek.gif
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Most analysts seem to be assuming that the iPhone 5c will just be a 5 in a new plastic shell and perhaps with less memory.  I'm hoping that the 5c (and 5s) will both incorporate Qualcomm's RF360 Front End Solution making them compatible with China Mobile's TD-SCDMA network AND that during the 5c's announcement there is also an announcement of a deal with China Mobile to carry the iPhone.  That should give the stock price another nice bump back up to the $500+ range.

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Most analysts seem to be assuming that the iPhone 5c will just be a 5 in a new plastic shell and perhaps with less memory.  I'm hoping that the 5c (and 5s) will both incorporate Qualcomm's RF360 Front End Solution making them compatible with China Mobile's TD-SCDMA network AND that during the 5c's announcement there is also an announcement of a deal with China Mobile to carry the iPhone.  That should give the stock price another nice bump back up to the $500+ range.

I'm assuming that's what will happen this fall.

The main reason Apple may be discontinuing the iPhone 5 may not be because of production cost. Instead it could be because it lacks China Mobile support. Most likely Apple wants both new phones to support China Mobile's frequency bands in order to only have to sell 2 phones globally. Makes sense to me.

China Mobile could give both phones the boost necessary to explain the anticipated production ramp up.
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Emerging markets are already buying Android phones for $100

Where can you buy a smartphone unsubsidized for $100?

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The 5s is going to increase in price.

I doubt this ... not Apple's M.O. and they would catch a lot of flak for doing so, but I do think that if Apple offered a larger screen version of the iPhone in addition to the current size, they could justify a $50 to $100 price premium for the larger screen version.  In addition to there being new potential customers at the lower end, there are plenty of people that would pay more for a top of the line iPhone.

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Where can you buy a smartphone unsubsidized for $100?

What makes you think they're smartphones?

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What makes you think they're smartphones?

What makes you think they are not?
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Where can you buy a smartphone unsubsidized for $100?

http://www.pricedealsindia.com/popularsearch/android-mobile-phones-under-rs-5000-in-india.php

Hell... some of those phones are $80

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Some interesting things from that site... Android phones start under Rs.5000 ($84)

Galaxy S4 is Rs.33749 ($567)

iPhone 5 is Rs.42361 ($712)

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Edited by Michael Scrip - 7/29/13 at 9:24pm
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What makes you thing they are not?

All use stats ever and the fact that people in these third world countries aren't affording $50 a month data plans if they're being idiots and whining about how a flagship high-end phone is $400 to own outright.

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All use stats ever and the fact that people in these third world countries aren't affording $50 a month data plans if they're being idiots and whining about how a flagship high-end phone is $400 to own outright.

 

http://www.connectindia.in/mobile-plans/Reliance/postpaid/plan/1030.htm

 

Reliance Totally unlimited @1499
 
 
 
Monthly Rental Rs.1,499/- ~$25
(This amount has to be paid in your monthly billing cycle) 
 
 
Plan Details
 
Local Calls : 0 Paise/Sec
STD Calls : 0 Paise/Sec
SMS : 1 Rs./SMS
More Details
Freebies
 
All Local and STD calls free.
3000 Local and STD SMS free monthly
5 GB Free data usage On 3G
 
... under $50.00
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This is interesting but I'm sure the polycarbonate iPhone is going to sell in bigger numbers than the 5S, and it could potentially eat into 5S sales.
 

That does seem logical to me. Rather like what I think the iPad Mini is doing to the iPad. 

 

I'm looking fwd to the white polycarbonate iPhone. That coupled with an iPad Mini, an ATV and maybe a Time Capsule and I'm down with the Apple eco-system for about $700.

 

6-7 years ago, I was in the Apple ecosystem with an iMac, MB laptop, original ATV, original iPhone, Airport extreme for about $4,500! 

 

$700 vs. $4,500! Wow! Maybe I will have to have a MacBook Air to have OSX...but I'm going to try and do it all with iOS7! Wish me luck! :)

 

Thanks, Apple! :)

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Hopefully they don't hire any 'student interns' in this expansion.

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The 4 and 4S don't sell more than the 5. It has nothing to do with the hardware.

It's not about the hardware perse, it's about the price.

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It's not about the hardware perse, it's about the price.

Right!

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A smartphone, or smart phone, is a mobile phone built on a mobile operating system, with more advanced computing capability and connectivity than a feature phone. Seeing as apple is at the forefront of this technology you can be sure the next phone will be a smartphone.
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http://www.connectindia.in/mobile-plans/Reliance/postpaid/plan/1030.htm

 

Reliance Totally unlimited @1499
 
 
 
Monthly Rental Rs.1,499/- ~$25
(This amount has to be paid in your monthly billing cycle) 
 
 
Plan Details
 
Local Calls : 0 Paise/Sec
STD Calls : 0 Paise/Sec
SMS : 1 Rs./SMS
More Details
Freebies
 
All Local and STD calls free.
3000 Local and STD SMS free monthly
5 GB Free data usage On 3G
 
... under $50.00

 

What is the average salary in India?

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A smartphone, or smart phone, is a mobile phone built on a mobile operating system, with more advanced computing capability and connectivity than a feature phone.

'Kay.
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Seeing as apple is at the forefront of this technology you can be sure the next phone will be a smartphone.

I'm not talking about Apple in the slightest, thanks.
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Now please go to sleep as you have school in the morning.

Later, skater. The next time you make a troll account (read: shut up and go away forever), try reading the post you're insulting first.

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There is always one person who writes something irrelevant in these forums and today it's Tallest Skil.
A smartphone, or smart phone, is a mobile phone built on a mobile operating system, with more advanced computing capability and connectivity than a feature phone. Seeing as apple is at the forefront of this technology you can be sure the next phone will be a smartphone. Now please go to sleep as you have school in the morning.

You need to follow the conversation back to see what Tallest Skil was talking about.

He wasn't talking about Apple at all. I actually started a thread about $100 smartphones in emerging markets... and he jumped in the thread.
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I am not making a troll statement I am merely venting my frustration that any human being could possibly deem an apple product to be anything other than smart.
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I am not making a troll statement I am merely venting my frustration that any human being could possibly deem an apple product to be anything other than smart.

Read my previous reply to you....

You misinterpreted what Tallest Skil said.

He said nothing about Apple at all.
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Well if that is the case then i apologise for any inconvenience or bad feeling my posts may have caused to you tallest Skil
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What is the average salary in India?

 

 

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The per capita monthly income, a measure to assess standard of living, grew at a slower rate of 13.7 per cent to Rs 5,130 in 2011-12 at current prices compared to Rs 4,513 in 2010-11.

 

Appx $86.00 for 5130 Rps

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Emerging markets are already buying Android phones for $100

The lowest cost iPhone is currently $450

How inexpensive do you think the plastic iPhone will be? 1eek.gif

 

The 5c will be the high-end emerging-market phone. I'm making this up, of course, but I'm guessing the cheapest one will be just a hair under $300. 

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The 5c will be the high-end emerging-market phone. I'm making this up, of course, but I'm guessing the cheapest one will be just a hair under $300. 

I will be very shocked if Apple sells an iPhone for $300
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16gb ipod touch is $229. I bet they can get a radio in there for $70, especially with the plastic case. 

 

I don't think they're going to try for this market without going for blood. 

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16gb ipod touch is $229. I bet they can get a radio in there for $70, especially with the plastic case. 

 

I don't think they're going to try for this market without going for blood. 

Other than the iPod market, I've never known Apple to go for blood.  I'd be surprised if the iPhone 5C (or whatever they call the lower-cost iPhone) is priced lower than $399, with the 5S starting @ $599.

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5C for around 400$ will massacre S-segment when it hurts the most. Apple will raise its market share by at least half by the end of its 2nd quarter next year. Add an larger iPhone and Apple's market share is between 40 and 50% globally...

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If you don't cannibalize your own sales, someone else will.

This is the thing, if Apple wants to expand markets and keep or improve its smart phone market share it has no choice but to build a wider array of smart phones. Not just low cost phones either. If they don't somebody else will.
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90,000? 

NINETY THOUSAND? 

Those numbers stagger me. Do they have factories with capacity to fit an extra 90,000 people, say 30,000 with shift work? Just like that?

I can't fathom how an EXTRA 90,000 people are needed to produce the next iPhone. Is Apple planning on selling two to every one on the planet?

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