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Users contributing Android bug reports to the StackOverflow developer community were offered cash in exchange for "organically" directing interest to a promotion aimed at creating Android apps with features that only work on certain Samsung phones.

Samsung goes viral with Fllu


Samsung's contest for proprietary Android apps



Samsung's current "Smart App" promotion seeks to spread third party developer adoption of the company's "Chord SDK," which supports multiplayer games and file sharing between certain new Samsung devices running at least Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, as well as media sharing to Samsung's Smart TVs.

Samsung Chord overlaps in functionality with a variety of Apple technologies, including AirPlay, AirDrop and GameCenter multiplayer features. Google also has its own competing initiatives for "pure" Android, including Beam and the Chrome Cast feature it just launched.

Samsung does however warn that unlike AirPlay or AirDrop, Chord currently does not support any authorization or encryption, noting that "unauthorized nodes might get connected" if developers don't roll their own security measures.

In order to promote its own proprietary Chord as a way to monopolize on its position as the largest Android licensee at the expense of Google, Samsung made using it a central requirement for contestants participating to win prizes in its latest Smart App challenge.

The contest plans to pay out $800,000 across ten winners, with submitted Samsung Chord apps judged for uniqueness, commercial potential, functionality, usability and design by a panel including venture capitals, the chief executive of Appcelerator and journalist John Biggs of TechCrunch.

Participants submitting Chord apps must also have English language support, and as the company notes, " If you have incorporated IAP (In-App Purchase) function, you must use Samsung IAP. If you insert advertisements into the app, you must use Samsung AdHub."

Samsung goes viral
Source: Samsung


Samsung is increasingly working to introduce its own proprietary extensions to Android. It featured some (such as its alternative to Google Translate) in place of Google's own at the launch of the Galaxy S4 this summer, and the company hopes to find third party developer support for others in its October devcon, launched as an alternative to Google IO.

Samsung seeks to go viral with Fllu



To promote Chord and its Smart App contest, Samsung contracted with Korean marketing agency Fllu.com, which markets itself as "Marketing Gone Viral."

"Paying for followers will not get you the results you need," the company's website states. "Follower growth needs to be organic. We like to keep things All Natural here at FLLU. It's all about Organic Growth!"

The company invites potential clients, "Don?t just jump on the bandwagon. Work with us and be the bandwagon. Get the fllu."

Fllu strikes a sour Chord with the open source community



To promote Samsung Chord, Fllu began contacting members on StackOverflow, a question and answer community website for software developers.

Delyan Kratunov, a developer who has been accruing reputation points on StackOverflow for contributing lots of Android bug reports, notes on his Delyan.me blog that he was contacted by Fllu, asking if he "would be interested in doing a small partnership to promote the upcoming Samsung Smart App Challenge."

Delyan Kratunov
Source: Delyan.me


When he asked about what was involved in the partnership, john@fllu.com responded, "We contacted members that we feel know something about Androids and Android Apps. Also those that are ACTIVE on Stackoverflow... All we need you to do is talk about the SSAC (Samsung Smart App Challenge) and get the word out."

Specifically, that meant, "We were thinking about 4 questions on Stackoverflow over the span of a month..... as well as replies to posts made by other members. Don't worry about finding the questions to reply to because we will send you links.""Please help me prevent FLLU and Samsung from getting away with this! Spread the word, don't let them undermine the few good communities we've created out there on the interwebz!" - Delyan Kratunov

Fllu added, "We don't want to SPAM...I repeat we don't want you to spam the message boards with links to the contest. The questions should be casual and organic. Like 'Anyone know anything about SSAC?' or... 'Need some feedback on the app I am about to enter for the Samsung Smart App Challenge.'"

In return for "4 questions spread out over a month" and "replies to others posts about the SSAC (you will get responses because we have other members doing the same thing you are doing), Fllu wrote, "We are willing to pay $500 just for that. Not a lot of work...since you are involved in Stackoverflow ANYWAY."

Kratunov's blog response was "Oh hell no!" adding, "this guy is totally out of touch with what StackOverflow is," and asking readers, "please help me prevent FLLU and Samsung from getting away with this! Spread the word, don't let them undermine the few good communities we've created out there on the interwebz!"

Kratunov also contacted StackOverflow, which resulted in Fllu following up with an apology for the "breach against their Terms of Service" and a redacting of its pay-to-post offer.

Spam sung by Samsung



This isn't the first or an isolated example of Samsung hiring other firms to "organically" post paid advertisements pretending to be unpaid fans or just generally interested in promoting Samsung's efforts to turn Android its own proprietary operating system.

Last August, Brian Ford drew attention to "A Perfect Galaxy," a Tumbler blog created, supposedly, by a fan who came up with such lines that "I believe there's only one that can be described as Perfect, and it's made by Samsung."

A Perfect Galaxy


The anonymous individual created a "Drag Race Scratch Test" viral video that dragged an iPhone and Samsung device behind a car and portrayed Samsung's phone as having survived better. The video was accompanied by slogans and graphical memes intended to look like posts on popular viral news community Reddit.com.

The video was subsequently featured by Gizmodo as coming from a "delightful" host whose amateur "footage is jittery as hell."

After some investigation into the source of the video, Ford reported that "The Perfect Galaxy" author had stopped updating his blog, leaving a final post claiming to have been fired from his job for spending too much company time on Twitter.

The bright side of getting fired, the "Galaxy Fan" wrote, was that now "fate has give me the opportunity to become what I always was truly meant to be: A Samsung Mobiler. They get early access to product, and get to wear those awesome blue shirts, .. SERIOUSLY best job out of ALL THE JOBS."

Ford looked up the domain registration for the blog and discovered it was "registered by a social advertising agency called Spreading Jam which is a paid client of Samsung," noting that "nothing on the Spreading Jam website mentions this connection and there's no effort to disclose the affiliation on any of the aperfectgalaxy social sites."

Jason Hyland, the London-based domain registrant, worked for Spreading Jam, which had just promoted "a series of Breakfree Films for Samsung."

After his report, all the social accounts related to aperfectgalaxy were taken offline, including its YouTube scratch video. Ford also cited a U.S. Federal Trade Commission guideline that requires "'material connections' (sometimes payments or free products) between advertisers and endorsers ? connections that consumers would not expect ? must be disclosed."

Taiwan investigates same spam sung by Samsung



This spring, Taiwan's Fair Trade Commission launched an investigation into Samsung's business practices after reports surfaced that the company had hired students to post malicious online comments about its competitor HTC.

A report by BBC News cited Samsung Taiwan's Facebook page a saying it had "ceased all marketing activities that involve the posting of anonymous comments."

The company added that "the recent incident was unfortunate, and occurred due to insufficient understanding of these [the company's] fundamental principles."

Samsung faces an $828,000 fine from Taiwan's FTC if convicted of "false advertising," although the U.S. FTC does not appear to be investigating Samsung's involvement with Spreading Jam and its undisclosed endorsements via "A Perfect Galaxy."

Samsung's phony tablet users at Galaxy launch



Rather than being a recent series of misunderstandings, Samsung's undisclosed endorsements by contrived users were a prominent part of Samsung's launch of the Honeycomb Galaxy Tab.

When it unveiled its new Galaxy Tab lineup in 2011, it featured an "interview project" purported to depict real consumers from "a variety of backgrounds" who presented stories of what appeared to be very satisfied Galaxy Tab owners, albeit voicing clumsy and phony sounding comments.



Joan Hess, described as a freelance travel writer, endorsed the product saying, "I would mostly use it communicating with people all around the globe when I'm on the move," before giggling "it's sexy, like me!"

On stage, Samsung executives described the interviews as "true life stories," but an investigation by Harry McCracken of Technologizer revealed that the first two individuals were actors, not travel writers or business people as Samsung had introduced them as.

The third "user" to have supposedly "picked up" one of the new Galaxy Tabs before it had even been released was described as an "independent film director," but in reality he "works for a New York production company, one that?s done work for Samsung," McCracken found.

McCracken later noted that Samsung had presented its "business user" as appearing on the cover of a fictitious magazine designed to look like Time, additionally crediting the man as having written a story, the text of which was barely readable in the video presentation, but in an ironic twist, was copied from McCracken's own review of the Galaxy Tab.

"One that wasn't glowing," McCracken pointed out. "for instance, the text that Samsung's video producers lifted says that the Tab is 'no where near as polished and complete' as the original iPad."

In the latest report by Time, Jared Newman continues to note that "Compared to iPad, Tablet Apps Are Still Android?s Weak Point."
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Why am I not surprised ?
Dirty tricks department running amok.
Sammys lost the plot.
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Gross.
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Why earn a good reputation when you can just buy it.
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They just want to deliver the entire package.  Another move to copy Apple....
 

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Fllu makes me sick.

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I've always wondered why there's so much news and "outrage" when apple does something far from perfect. like maps for example. Ive seen some horrid pictures of Google 3D maps recently (might be Google Earth?) yet not a blip of complaints or "jokes". Malware on Android, heck, even the privacy issues with personal information being given to developers. Yet people (the media) seem to not be bothered in the least. Yet Apple is killed in the media.

 

Chalk up another reason I dislike Samsung/Android/Google
 

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StackOverflow.com is not a social network. It has a reputation system for its contributors, so Fllu can't just create new sock accounts to start posting spam. They have to buy off regular, reputable contributors with $500 prizes. Sorry, but those kinds of obvious posts would be flagged as inappropriate on StackOverflow anyway. I don't think any regular contributor should become a paid Samsung shill at the risk of their reputation points.

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post #9 of 36

LOL another "feature"

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Didn't someone once estimate that Samsung spends 10 times as much as Apple on marketing, part of which is 4 times as much on advertising?

That leaves a lot of money for incentivizing various non-customers

Are they spending more money incentivizing carriers, metrix firms, salesdroids, politicians, judges, twitterers, and now developers than customers because these are easier to buy?

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Did you guys read this about GS4?

 

 

 
An AT&T employee sealed up the Samsung phone, took it in the water and it leaked like a sieve. Oh, and the warranty doesn’t cover water damage.
 
Very funny.
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Did you guys read this about GS4?


Samsung’s waterproof S4 is not so waterproof
 
An AT&T employee sealed up the Samsung phone, took it in the water and it leaked like a sieve. Oh, and the warranty doesn’t cover water damage.
 
Very funny.
The only phones that are truly water resistant are from Sony and Panasonic. The Sony Z phone and tablet can both be emerged in water for 30 minutes without problems. Not sure why I would do that but bringing a tablet in with me while taking a bath is something I do a lot. The Z tablet is a pretty nice tablet, just kind of expensive.
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The only phones that are truly water resistant are from Sony and Panasonic. The Sony Z phone and tablet can both be emerged in water for 30 minutes without problems. Not sure why I would do that but bringing a tablet in with me while taking a bath is something I do a lot. The Z tablet is a pretty nice tablet, just kind of expensive.

But did your Sony has an Aqua mode? :D

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There's no smoke without fire and the smoke all over the Internet has been stifling.

 

There are legal requirements that advertising should be presented as such, as not disclosing it is misleading.

 

It's good to see my suspicions vindicated, time to bring all this paid comment bullshit to heel.

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Until Google finds a way to extricate itself from Android, the Google search engine will suppress many negative stories about Samsung's deviousness. Once the extrication is found and acted on, there will be there will be a hailstorm of Samsung negativity articles for all of to peruse on a daily basis.
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I've always wondered why there's so much news and "outrage" when apple does something far from perfect. like maps for example. Ive seen some horrid pictures of Google 3D maps recently (might be Google Earth?) yet not a blip of complaints or "jokes". Malware on Android, heck, even the privacy issues with personal information being given to developers. Yet people (the media) seem to not be bothered in the least. Yet Apple is killed in the media.

 

Chalk up another reason I dislike Samsung/Android/Google
 

 

Because all Google products are perpetually in "beta", Google isn't liable for anything. Google maps has millions of imperfections, but the 3D does look shittier than Apple Maps, but they were never criticized or mocked for it, even though they've been working on the product for 10+ years. But it's all good, cause "open", or something. 

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From another thread, 2 days ago... The beat goes on:

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Funny... This article reminded me of a song:

I figured I could have some fun changing a few words in the lyrics,,,

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How's this?

NEIL DIAMOND - SONG SUNG BLUE LYRICS

Samsung's screwed
Now that they've been busted
Samsung's screwed
Cause they can't be trusted

Samsung's Lies Are Subject To The Blues Now And Then
But When You Take The Lies And Publicize
You Might Get Caught Again
You Will get Caught Again

Samsung's Screwed
Weeping like a willow
Samsung's Screwed
Hear Them Pay Their Shill-o.

Funny Thing, But You Can Sing It With A Lie In Your Voice
And Before You Know, Start To Feeling Good
You Simply Got No Choice

Samsung's Screwed
They Let Google Show Them
Samsung's Screwed
By Their Lies you'll Know Them
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I guess Samsung it taking it upon itself to deal with Android fragmentation.  By bleeding others of apps so all that remains is Samsung.

 

<Kurgan Voice>

There can be only one!

</Kurgan Voice>

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It took years to make the laws that run the US et al as much of world commerce runs now. It ain't perfect but commerce and corporate life is far healthier with the laws we have all come to depend upon. FacsimileSam's commercial culture is backward. It is the backwards bully trying to make it with the smart ones. Unless everyone involved comes to understand that the rules serve us all, the breakers will continue their dirty tricks. Eventually, the eye will be on FacsimileSam and the fines will be the teacher's ruler to show how 'naughty' gets you nowhere.

 

Today, commercial interests use political payments to get their way. Eventually that too will have to come to an end, but don't hold your breath.

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It took years to make the laws that run the US et al as much of world commerce runs now. It ain't perfect but commerce and corporate life is far healthier with the laws we have all come to depend upon. FacsimileSam's commercial culture is backward. It is the backwards bully trying to make it with the smart ones. Unless everyone involved comes to understand that the rules serve us all, the breakers will continue their dirty tricks. Eventually, the eye will be on FacsimileSam and the fines will be the teacher's ruler to show how 'naughty' gets you nowhere.

Today, commercial interests use political payments to get their way. Eventually that too will have to come to an end, but don't hold your breath.

Good post! We must celebrate those who play by the rules...
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What would be interesting is to find out who at Copiers R Us HQ authorised the decision to embark upon this campaign.

I don't suppose we'll ever find out ....
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Forking Android in 5..4...3...

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I've always wondered why there's so much news and "outrage" when apple does something far from perfect.

That's quite easy to explain: Apple tries to stand for quality (and charges premium for that), so when quality falters, people naturally complain.  3D maps are pointless, the real issue was and is Apple Maps' extremely variable accuracy making it impossible to trust.  3D maps and flyover and whatnot are just useless features; if you can't do them right, then don't do them at all.  That's what Jobs used to stand for when he was at the wheel.  At least Street View is useful for orientation because it gives you the right perspective, but the rest is not.

 

Google, on the other hand, never stood for quality.  They conduct research and put beta services out all the time, they aren't perfect and aren't trying to be perfect, and they don't charge premium for anything (in fact they give everything they can for free), so people tend to be a lot more tolerant with them.

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I've always wondered why there's so much news and "outrage" when apple does something far from perfect.
That's quite easy to explain: Apple tries to stand for quality (and charges premium for that), so when quality falters, people naturally complain.  3D maps are pointless, the real issue was and is Apple Maps' extremely variable accuracy making it impossible to trust.  3D maps and flyover and whatnot are just useless features; if you can't do them right, then don't do them at all.  That's what Jobs used to stand for when he was at the wheel.  At least Street View is useful for orientation because it gives you the right perspective, but the rest is not.

Google, on the other hand, never stood for quality.  They conduct research and put beta services out all the time, they aren't perfect and aren't trying to be perfect, and they don't charge premium for anything (in fact they give everything they can for free), so people tend to be a lot more tolerant with them.

Was the question about maps?
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That's quite easy to explain: Apple tries to stand for quality (and charges premium for that), so when quality falters, people naturally complain.  3D maps are pointless, the real issue was and is Apple Maps' extremely variable accuracy making it impossible to trust.  3D maps and flyover and whatnot are just useless features; if you can't do them right, then don't do them at all.  That's what Jobs used to stand for when he was at the wheel.  At least Street View is useful for orientation because it gives you the right perspective, but the rest is not.

Google, on the other hand, never stood for quality.  They conduct research and put beta services out all the time, they aren't perfect and aren't trying to be perfect, and they don't charge premium for anything (in fact they give everything they can for free), so people tend to be a lot more tolerant with them.

Well, at least this is a good explanation and making sense.
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(OT fork/
Well, Google better wake up and freakn quickly, too !
Now it's an ISP, hardware provider and all ....

Zero tolerances when people are paying for goods and services.
They now have to put their money where their MOUTH is.
And there's been plenty of mouth. /OT fork)
Edited by RobM - 8/2/13 at 12:39am
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Anyone who knows software developers or knows their subculture could have told the advertising guy it wouldn't work.

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That's quite easy to explain: Apple tries to stand for quality (and charges premium for that), so when quality falters, people naturally complain.  3D maps are pointless, the real issue was and is Apple Maps' extremely variable accuracy making it impossible to trust.  3D maps and flyover and whatnot are just useless features; if you can't do them right, then don't do them at all.  That's what Jobs used to stand for when he was at the wheel.  At least Street View is useful for orientation because it gives you the right perspective, but the rest is not.

Google, on the other hand, never stood for quality.  They conduct research and put beta services out all the time, they aren't perfect and aren't trying to be perfect, and they don't charge premium for anything (in fact they give everything they can for free), so people tend to be a lot more tolerant with them.

Googles apps and services are free? Of a monetary charge to the user, yes. But what about your data and metrics???
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Googles apps and services are free? Of a monetary charge to the user, yes. But what about your data and metrics???

What about it?  Could you monetize it yourself?  I can't.  So, as far as I'm concerned, it's free bcause they're extracting value from what to me is worthless.  Free does not imply that the service provider does not gain anything from the deal, only that they don't charge me anything.

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What about it?  Could you monetize it yourself?  I can't.  So, as far as I'm concerned, it's free bcause they're extracting value from what to me is worthless.  Free does not imply that the service provider does not gain anything from the deal, only that they don't charge me anything.

Right you are. Google is for people who think that privacy is worthless.

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What about it?  Could you monetize it yourself?  I can't.  So, as far as I'm concerned, it's free bcause they're extracting value from what to me is worthless.  Free does not imply that the service provider does not gain anything from the deal, only that they don't charge me anything.


That's one of the problems with our world.

If you cannot squeeze out dollars of it, it is of no value. /s

To me my privacy is of great value.

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Right you are. Google is for people who think that privacy is worthless.

So cute, you think you can enjoy privacy online...

 

I exercise my privacy rights by not sharing what is private to me with anyone and encrypting my stuff.

 

If you are an American citizen, the moment you hand your personal data over to a third party, you have waived your fourth amendment rights.  If you are not an American citizen, then you have no fourth amendment rights even in the US because the fourteenth amendment does not apply to you.

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Now, to shed more light on the entire situation, this also happens with apps in iOS. Fake reviews, paid placement, etc., all to take crap and coat it in gold.

But none of that is Apple's doing.
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StackOverflow.com is not a social network. It has a reputation system for its contributors, so Fllu can't just create new sock accounts to start posting spam. They have to buy off regular, reputable contributors with $500 prizes. Sorry, but those kinds of obvious posts would be flagged as inappropriate on StackOverflow anyway. I don't think any regular contributor should become a paid Samsung shill at the risk of their reputation points.

Interesting points. I wonder if we can have a system like that here, where the obnoxious trolls can be voted down into obscurity. Speaking of trolls, there are many posters that are conspicuously absent from this thread..

   

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

"We are willing to pay $500 just for that. Not a lot of work...since you are involved in Stackoverflow ANYWAY."

 

Amateurs.  The world is full of amateurs.

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DED - you failed to also mention the incident in Asia this year where Samsung's paid celebrity shills posted anti-apple comments timed in unison, and pre-written and provided to them by Samscum agents. Ironically, and to Samscums embarrassment, they were all posted from their iPhones and iPads.
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