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In an email sent out by Apple on Thursday, former MobileMe members were notified that their free iCloud storage would expire at the end of September, bumping them down to the usual 5GB allotted to new users.

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According to Apple's email, upgraded accounts, and their associated free storage allotments, will expire on Sept. 30, 2013, nearly two years after iCloud was released to the public in 2011.

When Apple introduced iCloud, the service gave users 5GB of free storage for photos, phone data, and other items. As a nod to former MobileMe members who were subscribed to tiered cloud data plans, Apple offered free cloud storage at their then-current tier levels for one year. The gratis storage was originally set to expire in September 2012, but Apple extended the period by one year.

In addition to the expiration date, Apple provided users with the amount of space they currently use on iCloud, allowing them time to move data off the service before the data cap is installed. It is unclear what will happen to those users who ignore the letter, though it is unlikely that Apple would erase stored data without first sending a letter of warning.
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A tip for those who might have difficulty in finding how to prevent the auto-downgrade.

You are looking for the button "Downgrade Options...". In here it will be set to the 5GB level, just simply switch it to the appropriate level you want and it will automatically charge your card on file for that amount.

Just wish we could charge it now or at our own set time.
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The positive: The grace period was more than generous and Apple handled that perfectly well. Fully legitimate to ask for payments now.

The negative: It now becomes pretty obvious how limited the design of iCloud really is. As you can't even access the storage space used by most apps, you just can't copy or move files in the Finder to some other location. You have to go into every single app and use whatever means available to mail, export or delete the data. There is also no way to influence the backup space consumed by iDevice backups (e.g. my iPad backups seem to include gigabytes of newspaper and magazine data that I could download freely from the original sources anyhow).
post #4 of 36
5GB backup storage needs to be reconsidered. It is just not enough if you have more than one device. I have one iPhone, one iPad mini, and 2 iPads and I already use 7GB. My sons iPod touch (32GB) is already over the 5GB and cannot backup without deleting things from the camera roll.

It should be 5GB PER DEVICE.
post #5 of 36

That headline seems like an elegantly polite way of saying:

 

MobileMe users about to get mugged.

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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

5GB backup storage needs to be reconsidered. It is just not enough if you have more than one device. I have one iPhone, one iPad mini, and 2 iPads and I already use 7GB. My sons iPod touch (32GB) is already over the 5GB and cannot backup without deleting things from the camera roll.

It should be 5GB PER DEVICE.

yes 5gB per device. My wife has an iPhone, numerous IOS and two macs linked - i also only get the same.

 

Also the icloud storage is no where near useful as MobileMe. 

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I haven't used iCloud. Since they took away iDisk I have no use for the extra storage.

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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

5GB backup storage needs to be reconsidered. It is just not enough if you have more than one device. I have one iPhone, one iPad mini, and 2 iPads and I already use 7GB. My sons iPod touch (32GB) is already over the 5GB and cannot backup without deleting things from the camera roll.

It should be 5GB PER DEVICE.

The iPad iPhone backup is a good point. the only way you can 'backup to the cloud' is by NOT backing up music, photos etc... not much of a backup at all. This continues to be a disappointing state of affairs.

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Originally Posted by dreyfus2 View Post

The positive: The grace period was more than generous and Apple handled that perfectly well. Fully legitimate to ask for payments now.

The negative: It now becomes pretty obvious how limited the design of iCloud really is. As you can't even access the storage space used by most apps, you just can't copy or move files in the Finder to some other location. You have to go into every single app and use whatever means available to mail, export or delete the data. There is also no way to influence the backup space consumed by iDevice backups (e.g. my iPad backups seem to include gigabytes of newspaper and magazine data that I could download freely from the original sources anyhow).

 

You can choose what to backup to iCloud. On your iOS device go to iCloud -> Storage & Backup -> Manage Storage -> Choose your device (the one your using now) then turn off the things you don't want to backup. You can also access your iCloud iWork documents on your Mac by going to the ~/Library/Mobile Documents/.

 

Yes, iCloud is limited and this can be a pain sometimes. However, limitations can be good for the average user. If you want something you have complete control over then you can also use other solutions such as Dropbox. There are many apps with Dropbox integration. I actually use both iCloud and Dropbox and each provide unique set of features that I need.

post #10 of 36

iCloud is a rather downscale offering from Apple.

 

Apple and networking have historically not done well together. Sigh.

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Originally Posted by Right_said_fred View Post

The iPad iPhone backup is a good point. the only way you can 'backup to the cloud' is by NOT backing up music, photos etc... not much of a backup at all. This continues to be a disappointing state of affairs.

 

I don't think Music is backed up to iCloud (I am honestly not sure since I am using iTunes Match). Camera Roll is taking lots of space in the backup though. Photo Stream doesn't count toward your iCloud storage.

 

But yes. I have to move videos and photos from my sons iPod touch to my Mac to get it to backup (maintain less than 5GB backup).

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The iPad iPhone backup is a good point. the only way you can 'backup to the cloud' is by NOT backing up music, photos etc... not much of a backup at all. This continues to be a disappointing state of affairs.

Hard drive storage space costs less than $0.10 per GB. Just add electricity and bandwidth.

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Hard drive storage space costs less than $0.10 per GB. Just add electricity and bandwidth.

When Apple migrated its MobileMe users to iCloud, I really missed iDisk for file storage and access across multiple devices, whether at home or away. At various times during the day, I'm using an iMac, a MacBook, an iPad, an iPhone or an iPod touch. I appreciate being able to access any of my content hassle-free from any of my devices, practically anywhere.

 

Solutions:

 

1. iCloud is still useful for syncing Contacts (Address Book), iCal and Notes, and for Find My Phone to locate iPhone, iPad, Mac or iPod touch.

 

2. For document files and camera uploads - Dropbox - a very user-friendly file hosting service. It works across all Apple devices. For every free referral you provide, Dropbox will provide another 500GB of free storage on top of their 2GB base, up to 18GB free. You can also pick and purchase various various personal and business storage plans if you have greater needs.

 

2. For iTunes content, I store them on two external drives currently offering a total of 7TB of storage. Remote access is through OSX File Sharing or the StreamToMe app for Apple mobile devices. The beauty of StreamToMe is that you're not restricted to your home WiFi network. You can access your home audio and video content through WiFi hotspots or even through an LTE wireless connection, so long as the external connections provide sufficient bandwidth. The StreamToMe app, paired with the ServeToMe app on Macs, finds and delivers content to Apple mobile devices much faster than the Music or Video apps.

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post #14 of 36

Box.com gives me 50GB for free.  Google Drive gives me 15GB.  Apple...only 5GB.

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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

Hard drive storage space costs less than $0.10 per GB. Just add electricity and bandwidth.

That's certainly true for consumer prices, however, enterprise HDD has much higher prices. Also don't forget the costs of cooling, which is a large cost no matter how many data their clients store: the HDD's are spinning wheather there is data on it r not.

Still, I get your point. I do think Apple is at least trying to offer a cloud solution that works for their 'main audience'. With iOS7 we are getting "Photostream. Now with video".

I just don't understand why they offer so little storage, and why they are so slow at rolling out Cloud solutions. I can -somehow- understand their resistance to Finder in the Cloud, but the current state of syncing documents, and the difference in options between, say, Keynote.ipa and Keynote.app is really, well, not working well. With the difference in UI of their mobile and desktop software I can understand that we won't get all options available on the different platforms. You can do a lot more and be more precise with a mouse compared to a finger. Well, on computers anyway lol.

Though they are of course taking iWork in the Cloud out of beta it is still a slow transition to a fully functional Cloud solution.

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post #16 of 36
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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

My sons iPod touch (32GB) is already over the 5GB and cannot backup without deleting things from the camera roll.

It should be 5GB PER DEVICE.

If you have a Mac, you can use Photostream to automatically copy the photos to iPhoto and then turn off iCloud backup of photos.

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post #17 of 36

Just gifted this book (through Amazon) to Tim Cook...

How to Win Friends and Influence People

 

Figure the guy who is crashing Steve's legacy could use some help.

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Originally Posted by JLL View Post

If you have a Mac, you can use Photostream to automatically copy the photos to iPhoto and then turn off iCloud backup of photos.

 

I know that. I've been doing this since day one. However, the problem is with videos. They take much more space and they can only be moved (full quality) to a computer by USB.

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If 2 people buy, say, one iPhone and 1 iPad, they will each get 5 Gb for backup. If one person buy both she or he will only get 5 Gb for the 2. So much for the fidelity...
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Had the extra 20GB for last 2 years and I'm still using around 600MB from my account. Why? Because you dildos took away iWeb and iDisk - the two most used features that I was willing to pay for... now I moved on and unless at least iDisk comes back, Apple won't see a dime from me again for cloud storage

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Originally Posted by Frood View Post

That headline seems like an elegantly polite way of saying:

 

MobileMe users about to get mugged.

That's how I feel!! lol.gif

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Had the extra 20GB for last 2 years and I'm still using around 600MB from my account. Why? Because you dildos took away iWeb and iDisk - the two most used features that I was willing to pay for... now I moved on and unless at least iDisk comes back, Apple won't see a dime from me again for cloud storage

Agreed! I miss being able to host my website on iDisk. I've since had to pay for that service elsewhere... irked.gif

iWeb was great! I've since switched to Adobe Muse 1smile.gif

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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

5GB backup storage needs to be reconsidered. It is just not enough if you have more than one device. I have one iPhone, one iPad mini, and 2 iPads and I already use 7GB. My sons iPod touch (32GB) is already over the 5GB and cannot backup without deleting things from the camera roll.

It should be 5GB PER DEVICE.

 

This.

post #24 of 36
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Originally Posted by Frood View Post

That headline seems like an elegantly polite way of saying:

MobileMe users about to get mugged.

I don't see that. I seem to recall paying for Mobile Me, yet I haven't paid a dime for iCloud (yet).
post #25 of 36
iTools - launched January 2000 - "Free for life!" - discontinued July 2002

.Mac - launched 2002 - discontinued July 2008

MobileMe - launched July 2008 - discontinued June 2012

iCloud - launched October 2011 - discontinued ???

I've been a Mac user for ages. I've lived through each of Apple's failed attempts to offer stable online tools. Never again.
post #26 of 36
I got a notice that I was over the limit of 5GB, and would loose data on the downgrade. A check showed 4.6 of 5.8 GB was the camera roll, 1800+ pics & movies.

I am thinking about turning off backup for this item. There are TONS of free storage sites that will offer to back up photos automatically - Google Drive, Amazon Cloud Drive,Sugar Sync, AT&T Locker, Dropbox. Most are also limited to 5 GB, but Google Drive is 15GB. I might just use it instead.
post #27 of 36

Like many others here, I miss some parts of MobileMe.

 

iDisk was great to have and the other service I miss quite a bit was the MobileMe Gallery. A great way to share photos with friends and family whether they owned an Apple device or not.

 

Heck Marissa Mayer's Yahoo, sent us a notification that we can get up to 1 TB of space for Flickr, back in May. I just wish Apple could do something similar.

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I've been a Mac user for ages. I've lived through each of Apple's failed attempts to offer stable online tools. Never again.

Someday you'll realize why it's different now. We'll be busy enjoying the software until then.

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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

I haven't used iCloud. Since they took away iDisk I have no use for the extra storage.

Same here except I used it to publish shared photo albums using iPhoto MobileMe integration. That feature ended with MobileMe.

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I've been a Mac user for ages. I've lived through each of Apple's failed attempts to offer stable online tools. Never again.

You poor thing.

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post #31 of 36

If you want Finder-like control over viewing and modifying iCloud content, check out Cloud Mate.  Looks pretty cool.

 

http://www.macworld.com/article/2045020/mac-gems-cloud-mate-makes-the-most-out-of-icloud.html

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I wish they would let us keep our 30Gb storage for those who have stuck with Mobile me that long. I've had since it started. Seems sucky to me to downgrade people.

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I wish they would let us keep our 30Gb storage for those who have stuck with Mobile me that long. I've had since it started. Seems sucky to me to downgrade people.

You can. By paying for it.

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You can choose what to backup to iCloud. On your iOS device go to iCloud -> Storage & Backup -> Manage Storage -> Choose your device (the one your using now) then turn off the things you don't want to backup. You can also access your iCloud iWork documents on your Mac by going to the ~/Library/Mobile Documents/.

Yes, iCloud is limited and this can be a pain sometimes. However, limitations can be good for the average user. If you want something you have complete control over then you can also use other solutions such as Dropbox. There are many apps with Dropbox integration. I actually use both iCloud and Dropbox and each provide unique set of features that I need.

Under "iCloud -> Storage & Backup -> Manage Storage -> Choose your device (the one your using now) then turn off the things you don't want to backup"... I can see how much space each app's data consumes, but I can't switch individual applications off. I only can switch off "Documents & Data" for all apps.

I do use Dropbox, too. But there are apps supporting only the one or the other, like e.g. the iWork apps. Getting a Pages document into my Dropbox account and sharing it with somebody (on an iDevice) is a pain in the ass, and involves more steps than was the case with assembling most furniture in my house. If Apple never had that capability, it would not even irritate me that much. But iDisk was just fine and did work. I also do not see how it was too much to handle for the "average user". Even my mother (87) was able to share documents with family and friends on iDisk. I am not trying to be negative, but IMHO Apple tries to abolish traditional file systems (something I sympathise with in general), without having a viable alternative in place.
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Under "iCloud -> Storage & Backup -> Manage Storage -> Choose your device (the one your using now) then turn off the things you don't want to backup"... I can see how much space each app's data consumes, but I can't switch individual applications off. I only can switch off "Documents & Data" for all apps.

I do use Dropbox, too. But there are apps supporting only the one or the other, like e.g. the iWork apps. Getting a Pages document into my Dropbox account and sharing it with somebody (on an iDevice) is a pain in the ass, and involves more steps than was the case with assembling most furniture in my house. If Apple never had that capability, it would not even irritate me that much. But iDisk was just fine and did work. I also do not see how it was too much to handle for the "average user". Even my mother (87) was able to share documents with family and friends on iDisk. I am not trying to be negative, but IMHO Apple tries to abolish traditional file systems (something I sympathise with in general), without having a viable alternative in place.

You should be able to control backup for each app you have installed. I have checked my iOS 6+ devices and they all show it. Here is Apple support document about how to do it:

 

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4847

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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

You should be able to control backup for each app you have installed. I have checked my iOS 6+ devices and they all show it. Here is Apple support document about how to do it:

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4847

Yep. Thanks. You are right. I was checking on my development device with iOS 7 beta 4, and this option does not (yet) exist there. On my private iPad with iOS 6 it is exactly as you have stated!
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