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Survey: 95% of developers working to support iOS 7, over half will require it

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App Store developers overwhelmingly see iOS 7 as important to support, with 95 percent saying they are actively updating their existing apps to support Apple's new software, and 52 percent likely to require iOS 7 in order to work.

iOS 7 developer intent
Source: Furbo.org


The findings are based on a survey of 575 iOS developers by Twitterrific developer Craig Hockenberry of The Iconfactory.

Hockenberry noted his own plans to Twitterrific, working with designer David Lanham. While he described the shipping version of the app as "feeling old and clunky," the results of overhauling the interface to reflect Apple's new design for iOS 7 are "stunning."

He added, "as you?d expect, it?s a lot more work than previous versions of iOS" for developers to both support and fit in with the new appearance of iOS 7.

Additionally, Hockenberry noted that "the depth and breadth of the changes in iOS 7 makes it difficult to support older versions of the OS," resulting in the just over half of those replying stating that their updates would require iOS 7 in order to work."Now?s the time to start thinking about upgrading. Many apps will require a device capable of running iOS 7" - Craig Hockenberry

"If you?re a consumer of apps, this is great news: it?s likely that your favorite apps will be ready for action come this fall," he stated.

"If you?re someone who has a device that?s a couple of years old, now?s the time to start thinking about upgrading. Many apps will require a device capable of running iOS 7."

Because most of the work required to feel native on iOS 7 relates to aspects of the user interface that need to be updated, games that portray their own interface full screen are among those least likely to need any significant updating, and therefore most likely to remain compatible with iOS 6.

94 percent adoption of iOS 6 suggests rapid transition to iOS 7



In early June, Apple began promoting the overwhelming proportion of iOS users on the most recent version of iOS, citing 93 percent adoption. That figure has since inched up another percentage point on Apple's site, although Apple hasn't updated its figures again since the end of June.

Apple aggressively pushed developers to support its latest hardware and technologies in iOS 6 last year, including the taller Retina Display introduced on iPhone 5 last year and new features in frameworks related to features such as Passbook, Maps, Game Kit, iCloud, video stabilization and face detection, as well as development features such as auto layout, collection views and state preservation.

iOS 7


This year, in addition to the new appearance, iOS 7 offers developers features including AirDrop and expanded sharing, new Multitasking support for background updates, Sprite Kit and new Game Center features, iBeacon support for Bluetooth LE, Inter-App Audio for streaming audio between music apps, new Map Kit features for navigation and overlays, high frame rate video capture, custom video composition and barcode scanning.

Apple plans to publicly release iOS 7 this fall, in conjunction with new iPhones and iPads, and as a free update to existing users dating back to 2010's iPhone 4 and 2011's iPad 2.
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That means : only just over 50% !   How disappointing.

From what I have seen, and having used it on a spare iPHONE4, it is very clean and user friendly.  

The new app to enable a phone to be locked properly - not possible to wipe & re-set without the additional security input only known to owner - it is absolutely great.   I would have thought that, since there's only about month to go, more devs would be having their apps ready to go on IOS7.


Edited by JPDLVMH - 8/3/13 at 12:45pm
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I'm excited for the fall!

iOS 7 GM version is going to be a bombshell, and I know all of the quirks are being polished and worked out.

This will probably be Apple's biggest fall/holiday season ever....
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Xcellent !

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That means : only just over 50% !   How disappointing.

From what I have seen, and having used it on a spare iPHONE4, it is very clean and user friendly.  

The new app to enable a phone to be locked properly - not possible to wipe & re-set without the additional security input only known to owner - it is absolutely great.   I would have thought that, since there's only about month to go, more devs would be having their apps ready to go on IOS7.

That's 50% will require iOS 7.  The rest of the apps won't require it.  I don't know if you read that properly.

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I'm excited for the fall!

iOS 7 GM version is going to be a bombshell, and I know all of the quirks are being polished and worked out.

This will probably be Apple's biggest fall/holiday season ever....

If they release a large screen iPhone, then it will definitely be a big holiday season, I hope they do, but I don't know if they will or not.  I still think it's going to be a good Holiday.

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That means : only just over 50% !   How disappointing.

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Why are you complaining about only 52% requiring iOS7? This is a small sampling of developers and on one hand, 95% are adding support for iOS7, which means these apps will run once someone updates to iOS7. When asked if their apps require iOS7 to be installed, a little more than half said it would. This means their apps will still run on iOS6, which means pre-iPhone4 and pre-iPad2. There is a market for these devices and I'm glad there are developers still writing apps that will run on them. 

 

glass half full or half empty????

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If they release a large screen iPhone, then it will definitely be a big holiday season, I hope they do, but I don't know if they will or not.  I still think it's going to be a good Holiday.

 

Naturally, I have no idea whether this will happen and whether this might or might not happen this year already, however judging from what is known about iOS 7 so far, there are quite a few indications that suggest more different screen sizes and resolutions opening up in the future, along with new technologies to encourage developers to cater for such cases.

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If they release a large screen iPhone, then it will definitely be a big holiday season, I hope they do, but I don't know if they will or not.  I still think it's going to be a good Holiday.
Going to have to get McCain ask Tim Cook for a big iPhone for us
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That means : only just over 50% !   How disappointing.

I would have thought that, since there's only about month to go, more devs would be having their apps ready to go on IOS7.

 

I'm pretty sure you misunderstood the article. Look at the headline again. 

 

NINETY FIVE PERCENT of developers are adding iOS 7 support. 95%, NOT 'just over 50%'.

 

The 52% number is for those that will REQUIRE iOS 7 (meaning, iOS 7 will be a mandatory upgrade if you want to run those apps. Meaning, their apps will not run on anything less than iOS 7).

 

Get it?

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Might have to replace the kids (my old) iPad 1...
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Going to have to get McCain ask Tim Cook for a big iPhone for us

I don't think McCain was the only person requesting the automatic updates because Apple had already decided to do it before McCain asked about it, but Cook couldn't say anything before the announcement date, but you could tell he already knew it was pre-planned.


I can see an upside to having automatic downloads and having it updated manually.  if they set it so the user can choose, that might be OK too.  I haven't played with iOS 7, so I don't know if it's user selectable. Some may want to hold off on downloading an app at a particular time due to the app size and they might doing something else that requires internet access without being bogged down by an app update.

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I'm pretty sure you misunderstood the article. Look at the headline again. 

NINETY FIVE PERCENT of developers are adding iOS 7 support. 95%, NOT 'just over 50%'.

The 52% number is for those that will REQUIRE iOS 7 (meaning, iOS 7 will be a mandatory upgrade if you want to run those apps. Meaning, their apps will not run on anything less than iOS 7).

Get it?

That what would mean a complete rewrite and many will charge again for their app.
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Did they have a choice?

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Originally Posted by tribalogical View Post

I'm pretty sure you misunderstood the article. Look at the headline again. 

NINETY FIVE PERCENT of developers are adding iOS 7 support. 95%, NOT 'just over 50%'.

The 52% number is for those that will REQUIRE iOS 7 (meaning, iOS 7 will be a mandatory upgrade if you want to run those apps. Meaning, their apps will not run on anything less than iOS 7).

Get it?
Remind me what devices will be iOS 7 update-able?
No fourth generation iTouches, anything else?
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Remind me what devices will be iOS 7 update-able?
No fourth generation iTouches, anything else?

Full iOS 7 will only be supported by iPhone 5, iPod Touch 5th gen, iPad 4 gen, and iPad mini. So much for support of older devices and fragmentation.
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The new app to enable a phone to be locked properly - not possible to wipe & re-set without the additional security input only known to owner - it is absolutely great.

Can the lock be overrided by putting the iPhone in DFU mode? Doesn't DFU bypass the OS?

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Full iOS 7 will only be supported by iPhone 5, iPod Touch 5th gen, iPad 4 gen, and iPad mini. So much for support of older devices and fragmentation.

Wrong ! It's also supported on even older iPhones and iPads.

Yes, no fragmentation. :-)


Apple take good care of their customers.

EDIT: Now imagine the potential market of the new apps. Practically all of them, not just the newer models.
Edited by patsu - 8/3/13 at 9:32pm
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That what would mean a complete rewrite and many will charge again for their app.

*cough* bullshit *cough*

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Full iOS 7 will only be supported by iPhone 5, iPod Touch 5th gen, iPad 4 gen, and iPad mini. So much for support of older devices and fragmentation.

 

iOS 7 will run on iPhone 4 and 4S as well as iPad 3rd gen. Some features of iOS7 may not function on the older products but that was true of iOS 6 when it came out too. 

 

There is not another company on the planet that supports as old of phones and tablets with current updates as Apple. I am typing this on a 2006 vintage MBP so I certainly am not disadvantaged by Apple's forward progress. My iPhone and iPad are the latest models, but I don't expect to need to replace them next year or the year after that. 

 

Quit your whining! Jeez!!!

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Did they have a choice?

Of course. Half the apps won't need to be upgraded to run on iOS7. The other half will be upgraded in appearance or to add the new features of iOS7. 

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I don't think I've ever seen a comment thread with more confusion or misdirection. This is like the conversations you see in the chats of League of Legends explaining fundamentals to the 8-year-olds playing PVP after only a week.

TL;DR: *facepalm*
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Wrong ! It's also supported on even older iPhones and iPads.

Yes, no fragmentation. :-)


Apple take good care of their customers.

EDIT: Now imagine the potential market of the new apps. Practically all of them, not just the newer models.

What part of 'full' didn't you understand? Older devices will get a crippled version stripped of features.
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Can the lock be overrided by putting the iPhone in DFU mode? Doesn't DFU bypass the OS?

DFU mode will allow a restore, but the activation lock still pops up after it reboots. No iCloud credentials, no activation. :)

 

I really wish we already had this. I was at my cousin's wedding reception last night, and someone stole 8-10 phones from guests that had them laying on tables. From the sounds of it, the huge majority of them (if not all) were iPhones. My other cousin said nobody stole her phone, and it was in plain sight sitting on her purse. Then she says it's a Samsung Galaxy (of some sort). I politely told her that's why she still has her phone. Nobody steals Samesung phones, no matter how "good" they are. She just chuckled. 

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What part of 'full' didn't you understand? Older devices will get a crippled version stripped of features.

I'd rather have a majority of new features from a major update than none at all (Android, WP). 

 

When you factor in custom UIs from the various Android manufacturers, features are a scattered train wreck from brand to brand. Good luck getting a feature you love between the various options without the NEED for 3rd party. 

 

It's amazing how none of this was ever a topic of conversation before the iPhone came along... Updates for phones?! Who does that?

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*cough* bullshit *cough*

A 'redesign' and yes many devs could make you pay again for the app.

http://m.tuaw.com/2013/07/19/how-willing-are-you-to-re-purchase-apps-for-ios-7/
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My daughter wants to dump her Samsung phone for iPhone. She claimed the apps always shows up on iPhone first. She hated the wait. Also Samsung discounts makes product un-cool/cheap/unfashionable. [High class items never discount!]
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This would be better news if the App Store kept each app's last version to support older iOS/hardware. Few things are more frustrating than trying to put apps on a wiped 3GS, and getting version errors after the password prompt.

 

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My daughter wants to dump her Samsung phone for iPhone. She claimed the apps always shows up on iPhone first. She hated the wait. Also Samsung discounts makes product un-cool/cheap/unfashionable. [High class items never discount!]

The discount thing is pretty shallow (and completely in line with school social rules), but now she knows how Mac gamers feel!

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When you factor in custom UIs from the various Android manufacturers, features are a scattered train wreck from brand to brand. Good luck getting a feature you love between the various options without the NEED for 3rd party. 

 

As long as it's available from somewhere.

 

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It's amazing how none of this was ever a topic of conversation before the iPhone came along... Updates for phones?! Who does that?

 

Updates have been a big deal for their owners, since smartphones first came out.  

 

Can't speak for Symbian, but Blackberrys got updates.   Windows Mobile phones sometimes went through several major versions.

 

A really big one was the update to Windows Mobile 5, which added persistent storage support.  (Prior to that, everything was kept in battery powered RAM.  If your phone went dead, you lost all your info and had to resync.  No kidding.  A real pain.)

 

Only certain phones could upgrade, because it required flash memory to implement, so it caused a lot of people to buy a later model.

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Going to have to get McCain ask Tim Cook for a big iPhone for us

 

Nobody f*cking listens to that old coot.  He was just coincidentally commenting at a time when the feature was already planned.  

 

McCain has been irrelevant since the 1960's. 

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iOS 7 will run on iPhone 4 and 4S as well as iPad 3rd gen. Some features of iOS7 may not function on the older products but that was true of iOS 6 when it came out too. 

 

There is not another company on the planet that supports as old of phones and tablets with current updates as Apple. I am typing this on a 2006 vintage MBP so I certainly am not disadvantaged by Apple's forward progress. My iPhone and iPad are the latest models, but I don't expect to need to replace them next year or the year after that. 

 

Quit your whining! Jeez!!!

 

Besides which, if the new iPhone Cheapo is a reality, anyone on older than 5 hardware will be able to upgrade to an iPhone 5 class device with the large screen and full iOS 7 support for practically nothing.  

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What part of 'full' didn't you understand? Older devices will get a crippled version stripped of features.

I did see the word "full" but it is irrelevant.

As long as the old phones can run iOS7, there is no fragmentation. The apps will just run with a more limited feature set. Even if it's the same hardware and OS version, the users may turn off certain features (e.g., for privacy). The apps will have to handle these exceptions.
Edited by patsu - 8/4/13 at 8:47am
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This would be better news if the App Store kept each app's last version to support older iOS/hardware. Few things are more frustrating than trying to put apps on a wiped 3GS, and getting version errors after the password prompt.

If it's so frustrating, I would think the user will check the version details on the app's AppStore page before downloading.

It should be possible to copy the apps from iTunes or iCloud backup too.
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The discount thing is pretty shallow (and completely in line with school social rules), but now she knows how Mac gamers feel!

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Remind me what devices will be iOS 7 update-able?
No fourth generation iTouches, anything else?

 

Here is a useful chart showing which devices are supported by which iOS version (iPhone OS 1 to iOS 7):

 

http://iossupportmatrix.com


Edited by NasserAE - 8/4/13 at 9:02am
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Remind me what devices will be iOS 7 update-able?
No fourth generation iTouches, anything else?

First, go home, visit Apple's website and learn the names of their products. Then you can come back and comment on this site. Realize there is no such thing as an "iTouch."
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As long as it's available from somewhere.

 

 

Updates have been a big deal for their owners, since smartphones first came out.  

 

Can't speak for Symbian, but Blackberrys got updates.   Windows Mobile phones sometimes went through several major versions.

 

A really big one was the update to Windows Mobile 5, which added persistent storage support.  (Prior to that, everything was kept in battery powered RAM.  If your phone went dead, you lost all your info and had to resync.  No kidding.  A real pain.)

 

Only certain phones could upgrade, because it required flash memory to implement, so it caused a lot of people to buy a later model.

 

I think you're being a bit pedantic here.  I had lots of Windows Mobile devices and PocketPC's before that as well as a host of smartphones.  

 

The fact is that almost no one (I would say less than 10% certainly), updated their phone or pocket device before Apple came out with the iPhone (with the possible exception of Palm users where maybe 30% did), and now Apple users pretty much all do it on a regular basis.  

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What part of 'full' didn't you understand? Older devices will get a crippled version stripped of features.

 

You're just being an a-hole.  Apple has better, and longer tail support than any other vendor. Period. 

 

Every Apple iOS based device you buy is guaranteed to run the OS it came on, plus all the updates, plus the next OS that comes out, plus all the updates.  All for free. No one else does that.  

 

Additionally, the three most ubiquitous devices they have made so far, (the iPhone 3Gs, the iPhone 4, and the iPad 2), all run a third version of the OS and all the updates for that as well. 

 

Considering how rapidly the platform is evolving, and that a few years ago most of these devices didn't even exist, this is excellent support. 

 

The vast majority of Android devices that have been made over the same period have *never* seen a single update.  Not one.  Most are thrown out, or break, or the company goes out of business, or they are discontinued as products before an update becomes available, or before the user figures out how to do it. 

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Remind me what devices will be iOS 7 update-able?
No fourth generation iTouches, anything else?

 

iPhone 4 and up are compachi, iPad 2 and up are golden too… iPod Touch 5th and up…  and that's all folks!


Edited by tribalogical - 8/4/13 at 12:11pm
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What part of 'full' didn't you understand? Older devices will get a crippled version stripped of features.

 

Yeah, the iPhone 4 won't be able to use Siri or the 4" screen graphics (like always). You realize you're talking out of your arse. iOS7 will bring many new features to older phones. Android phones don't even give you the option to do security updates. They would rather you buy a new phone.

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That what would mean a complete rewrite and many will charge again for their app.

 

So, do you Misinformation much? Or just here at AI?

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