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post #41 of 78
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Full iOS 7 will only be supported by iPhone 5, iPod Touch 5th gen, iPad 4 gen, and iPad mini. So much for support of older devices and fragmentation.

 

More like, "So much for facts and opinions based on reality…"

 

Again, do you Misinformation much? Is it a mistake, or are you LYING ON PURPOSE?

 

I direct you to scroll near the bottom of THIS page at APPLE.com: 

 

http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/features/


What does that say about compatibility? M-hmmmmm?

 

 

 

post #42 of 78
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What part of 'full' didn't you understand? Older devices will get a crippled version stripped of features.

 

"crippled"… "stripped of features"...

 

um, excuse me, a little Hyperbole Dressing along with that Misinformation Salad you're serving up with your last few posts?

 

My iPad gen 01 doesn't have cameras, so it doesn't take advantage of any of the nifty iOS5 camera-related features. Is that equal to a version of iOS that is "crippled and stripped of features"? Nope. iOS7 is no different. If the DEVICE doesn't support something, it won't function, NOT the other way around (Apple doesn't operate using the "planned obsolescence" method. I have a 1st gen iPad running just fine, 4+ year old iPhone, goin on 4 year old iMac, all doing just fine. I'm not upgrading because they are somehow dysfunctional or broken down. 

 

Apple doesn't work that way. You clearly aren't an Apple user, or you would know that. 

 

Full disclosure: considering your ridiculous assertions, semantic nit-picking and snarky negativity here, I have to ask: do you work with or for Samsung (or Google) in some capacity? 

 

I really want to know what YOU think will be "crippled and stripped"? What parts of iOS 7 won't run on the iPhone 4s and iPad 3rd gen? Or the iPhone 4 for that matter? Or the iPad 2?

post #43 of 78

I'm all for supporting the latest OS with the latest software; that's why it's there -- to take advantage of. I have to protest, though, developers who first require the latest OS ... and then actually disable their previous versions. They may think they're just encouraging people to upgrade, but those whose hardware cannot run the apps are left in the cold. Those owners understand they can't be included in upgrades for a long period, but don't brick old devices!

post #44 of 78
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A 'redesign' and yes many devs could make you pay again for the app.

http://m.tuaw.com/2013/07/19/how-willing-are-you-to-re-purchase-apps-for-ios-7/

 

Oh, so NOW you say "A 'redesign'…"  A far cry from your previous post saying "a complete rewrite", no? Dude, you're all over the map with these posts.

 

Yes, SOME devs could… Operative word there being *could*. That *could* happen anytime and for any reason. 

 

 

Why are you spreading FUD here and saying all these things as if they are givens?

 

I've been on iOS since version 1. Some of my apps have released new versions that required a new purchase (or upgrade fee), but those are the exception not the rule. Most continue to update year after year, through various iOS iterations and fairly major upgrade cycles (new screen formats and display resolutions, adding major features like gyroscope and GPS, on and on) without asking for a single penny. Try getting that from ANY "PC" software vendor. Yeah-hm...

 

Sure some COULD charge for their upgrades. Most don't. That's just how it is. 

 

Do you have anything positive to contribute to this thread? At all?


Edited by tribalogical - 8/4/13 at 12:38pm
post #45 of 78
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

 

Nobody f*cking listens to that old coot.  He was just coincidentally commenting at a time when the feature was already planned.  

 

McCain has been irrelevant since the 1960's. 

 

Which implies he was also somehow relevant in the 60's… I'm not convinced.

post #46 of 78
In ios7
We chat and Skype having some problem
Sometimes rest start iphone5
post #47 of 78
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Originally Posted by imikhan1122 View Post

In ios7
We chat and Skype having some problem
Sometimes rest start iphone5

That's because you are running a beta. And the apps are not ported over yet. ^_^
post #48 of 78
Ios7 is a buggy impractical piece of junk the like i have never seen before (maybe vista)... I am seriously contemplating switching away (had iphones from first one). Someone went on an ego trip to put his mark on the whole thing, and the devs are chasing stupid bugs rather creating new useful features. I can't believe the things they get away with 'we removed xxx and yyyy, but it is because we are touching at the essence of what a calendar or a music player ought to be'... and we all cheer and clap...

The layer of window dressing will hide the lack of imagination...
Edited by wishfulthinking - 8/4/13 at 2:11pm
post #49 of 78
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Originally Posted by wishfulthinking View Post

Ios7 is a buggy impractical piece of junk the like i have never seen before (maybe vista)... I am seriously contemplating switching away (had iphones from first one). Someone went on an ego trip to put his mark on the whole thing, and the devs are chasing stupid bugs rather creating new useful features. I can't believe the things they get away with 'we removed xxx and yyyy, but it is because we are touching at the essence of what a calendar or a music player ought to be'... and we all cheer and clap...

The layer of window dressing will hide the lack of imagination...

I used to think that it's just "window dressing", but after using the betas a few week, I can see where the useful improvements are. e.g., Control Center, AirDrop, the new Share button, cleaned up UI, updated apps. Now iOS6 looks and works somewhat dated compared to iOS7. However some take getting used to.

It's not just eye candy.

The layered and dynamic UI (including the new TextKit) is the most interesting concept to me so far. Other mobile UI works in a more flat fashion.

Like all betas, I also encountered some bugs. Hopefully Apple find enough time to fix them.
It also seems that some of the changes are done for future devices. :-)
post #50 of 78
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Originally Posted by tribalogical View Post

More like, "So much for facts and opinions based on reality…"

Again, do you Misinformation much? Is it a mistake, or are you LYING ON PURPOSE?

I direct you to scroll near the bottom of THIS page at APPLE.com: 

http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/features/


http://ipod.about.com/od/iphonesoftwareterms/f/What-Devices-Are-Ios-7-Compatible.htm

The Apple site doesn't give you the whole story.
Edited by Soloman - 8/4/13 at 3:57pm
post #51 of 78
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Originally Posted by Soloman View Post


http://ipod.about.com/od/iphonesoftwareterms/f/What-Devices-Are-Ios-7-Compatible.htm

The Apple site doesn't give you the whole story.

 

Like he told SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN. Apple tells you which features supported. It is not a conspiracy. The link you posted got the info from the link the OP gave you.

 

 

 

 

post #52 of 78
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http://ipod.about.com/od/iphonesoftwareterms/f/What-Devices-Are-Ios-7-Compatible.htm

The Apple site doesn't give you the whole story.

 

YES IT DOES. It gives the WHOLE story (more on that below).

 

 

OK, so … Airdop and SOME Photo filter features. That's it? (Your source is wrong. "Square" photos on the iPad 3 certainly are supported. Whatever.)

 

All the other features listed as "missing" other than those two are from iOS 6 or earlier. So those aren't exactly news - and not new to iOS 7, as you seem to be trying to promote. It's YOU that isn't giving the whole story. You are working overtime to advance a very false narrative here.

 

Besides, I'm not so sure that I'd depend on an "about.com" post to be accurate. How do they KNOW those are unsupported by those devices? Do you have a credible backup for that supposition? OH, wait a minute! Maybe they used the same link I gave you earlier!!! You know, to the APPLE Site?

 

Yes! It shows exactly what is supported and NOT supported. The about.com post doesn't have it 100% right though, and also includes a bunch of older features not new to iOS7. Huh, whaddya know. So the APPLE site tells the whole story after all.

 

 

Yep, you sure did prove your point about iOS7 being "crippled and stripped of features" for those older devices… *snicker* /s

 

 

I'm done with you. You're clearly trolling at this point.


Edited by tribalogical - 8/4/13 at 4:55pm
post #53 of 78
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Originally Posted by wishfulthinking View Post

Ios7 is a buggy impractical piece of junk the like i have never seen before (maybe vista)... I am seriously contemplating switching away (had iphones from first one). Someone went on an ego trip to put his mark on the whole thing, and the devs are chasing stupid bugs rather creating new useful features. I can't believe the things they get away with 'we removed xxx and yyyy, but it is because we are touching at the essence of what a calendar or a music player ought to be'... and we all cheer and clap...

The layer of window dressing will hide the lack of imagination...

 

Wait… you're running (likely non-updated) apps on a BETA, and complaining that it has bugs? Do you not understand what it means to run BETA software? Apple says, only run the iOS 7 beta on a device dedicated exclusively to that testing. Meaning, use it to test the device operation, the built-in apps functions, and YOUR OWN apps being updated for the new OS… right?

 

Why would you, seemingly here speaking in "end user/consumer mode", be considering "switching away"? Are you a developer? If not, why are you using iOS 7? And if you are, what will you switch your software away to? 

 

I'm not buying any of this false-negative supposition. You sir, are trolling hard.

 

Buggy and impractical. I'm ROTFL pretty hard here!

post #54 of 78
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Originally Posted by Soloman View Post

http://ipod.about.com/od/iphonesoftwareterms/f/What-Devices-Are-Ios-7-Compatible.htm

The Apple site doesn't give you the whole story.

Wow, my 4S can't use Camera filters. Guess ill just use Camera+. Crippled for sure.
post #55 of 78
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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

Like he told SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN. Apple tells you which features supported. It is not a conspiracy. The link you posted got the info from the link the OP gave you.






It's just in fine print that's easy to miss.
post #56 of 78
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Originally Posted by Soloman View Post

http://ipod.about.com/od/iphonesoftwareterms/f/What-Devices-Are-Ios-7-Compatible.htm

The Apple site doesn't give you the whole story.

Wow, my 4S can't use Camera filters. Guess ill just use Camera+. Crippled for sure.
post #57 of 78
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Originally Posted by Soloman View Post


It's just in fine print that's easy to miss.

 

Selective blindness, maybe? Or just sour grapes.

 

Where it presents iOS7 device compatibility, with images, a LARGE block of text IMMEDIATELY below that gives a nice clear list. It isn't hidden away, relegated to a link or popup, or "easy to miss" at all. If you had followed my link before, you would have seen it as easily as everyone else does. No-one I know has "missed" that big block of text. No one.

 

Really, give it a rest, dude. Come into the light. It just works over here. Really.

post #58 of 78
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Originally Posted by Pendergast View Post


Wow, my 4S can't use Camera filters. Guess ill just use Camera+. Crippled for sure.

 

Yeah, and limping hard. Now you need crutches! 

 

Surely there's an app for that.

 

ok, or not…

 

So, "Apple is doomed™" then? 

post #59 of 78
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Originally Posted by GadgetCanadaV2 View Post

 

Yeah, the iPhone 4 won't be able to use Siri or the 4" screen graphics (like always). You realize you're talking out of your arse. iOS7 will bring many new features to older phones. Android phones don't even give you the option to do security updates. They would rather you buy a new phone.

What I crack up about is that Google wasn't the first Internet search engine, nor were they the first mapping program, and a lot of the ideas in modern smartphones and tablets stemmed back from the Knowledge Navigator project that Apple was working on back in the 1980's.  For those that never saw it, here's the video.  See how many things are being integrated....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bjve67p33E

post #60 of 78
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What I crack up about is that Google wasn't the first Internet search engine, nor were they the first mapping program, and a lot of the ideas in modern smartphones and tablets stemmed back from the Knowledge Navigator project that Apple was working on back in the 1980's.  

 

The Knowledge Navigator wasn't a real project.  It was a fantasy video made for an educational convention to make it look like Apple was working on such things.   As the director of the educational marketing group inside Apple who made the video noted,

 

"NeXT claimed to be focused exclusively on the higher education market. Many of the higher ed(ucation) influencers and decision makers were saying that Apple had no vision for its future product line. John Sculley was scheduled to be the keynote speaker at Educom, and the stakes were high for us to show some “vision” of where Apple was going."

 

As for intelligent speech assistants, they go back at least to the 1960s with the Star Trek and Space Odyssey computers, which could hold a conversation, initiate calls, and correlate data upon request.


Edited by KDarling - 8/4/13 at 8:24pm
post #61 of 78
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The Knowledge Navigator wasn't a real project.  It was a fantasy video made for an educational convention to make it look like Apple was working on such things.   As the director of the educational marketing group inside Apple who made the video noted,

 

"NeXT claimed to be focused exclusively on the higher education market. Many of the higher ed(ucation) influencers and decision makers were saying that Apple had no vision for its future product line. John Sculley was scheduled to be the keynote speaker at Educom, and the stakes were high for us to show some “vision” of where Apple was going."

 

As for intelligent speech assistants, they go back at least to the 1960s with the Star Trek and Space Odyssey computers, which could hold a conversation, initiate calls, and correlate data upon request.

IT's still showing ideas on how they technology in the future?   That's how things get done, some one has what people would think is a silly idea and then it goes public and then eventually, if it's technologically possible, people actually put it into an actual product. Like the telephone in a wristwatch or shoe, etc. etc. 

 

Your response is kind of stupid.  Why?  because they had an idea of the KN enough to put a video of what they wanted, and all you focus on is an assistant. and on educational market?

I see it more as technology, like searching the internet for anyone, personal assistant, video conferencing, making video voice calls, a touch screen tablet, and a lot of other things that didn't exist in a product we could actually buy for under $1000.  If Apple had an iPad 4 back in 1986, that's practically what the thing does (for the most part).  Whomever put the video together and did the mock up tablets they were using was done by someone at Apple weren't they?  They weren't made by Microsoft or Google or Samsung were they?

post #62 of 78
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Originally Posted by KDarling View Post

 

The Knowledge Navigator wasn't a real project.  It was a fantasy video made for an educational convention to make it look like Apple was working on such things.   As the director of the educational marketing group inside Apple who made the video noted,

 

"NeXT claimed to be focused exclusively on the higher education market. Many of the higher ed(ucation) influencers and decision makers were saying that Apple had no vision for its future product line. John Sculley was scheduled to be the keynote speaker at Educom, and the stakes were high for us to show some “vision” of where Apple was going."

 

As for intelligent speech assistants, they go back at least to the 1960s with the Star Trek and Space Odyssey computers, which could hold a conversation, initiate calls, and correlate data upon request.

Well, I don't see any video made by Samsung, Google or even Microsoft that dates back this far with anything similar in product that's similar to what we can actually buy today.  Apple didn't want to put out a PC Tablet like product due to size, battery life, not as easy to use, and they required a stylus, so Apple waited to put out the iPad, which is FAR more successful than a PC Tablet.  Apple could have easily put together an OS X tablet, but it probably wouldn't be as successful.  It would be cool, but probably not as successful.

post #63 of 78

Just for old time sake...

 

 

The Mac's desktop and desk accessories metaphor were introduced to the public in 1984.

 

According to wiki, the Knowledge Navigator was described in Sculley's book in 1987.

 

The Newton PDA and its Soup filesystem development also started in 1987. 

Apple-ARM worked together to release the ARM6 chip in 1992 for Newton (Apple owned part of ARM).

 

QuickTime multimedia platform, and speech recognition R&D started when Dr. Kai-Fu Lee arrived in Apple around 1990. 

But it was only done on the Mac since clearly the old ARM CPU wasn't powerful enough. I was in grade school at that time but I recognized the technologies.

 

Jobs killed Newton in late 1990s but reinvented it as iOS/iPhone in 2007.

iPad in 2010. The same ARM company supplies the CPU powering iOS.

 

Siri came in at 2011.

 

But along the way, many companies chip in.

post #64 of 78
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Just for old time sake...

 

 

The Mac's desktop and desk accessories metaphor were introduced to the public in 1984.

 

According to wiki, the Knowledge Navigator was described in Sculley's book in 1987.

 

The Newton PDA and its Soup filesystem development also started in 1987. 

Apple-ARM worked together to release the ARM6 chip in 1992 for Newton (Apple owned part of ARM).

 

QuickTime multimedia platform, and speech recognition R&D started when Dr. Kai-Fu Lee arrived in Apple around 1990. 

But it was only done on the Mac since clearly the old ARM CPU wasn't powerful enough. I was in grade school at that time but I recognized the technologies.

 

Jobs killed Newton in late 1990s but reinvented it as iOS/iPhone in 2007.

iPad in 2010. The same ARM company supplies the CPU powering iOS.

 

Siri came in at 2011.

 

But along the way, many companies chip in.

Yeah, and Apple introduced a daisy chainable i/O port for keyboards called ADB before USB.  Developed Firewire, and was first to integrate ethernet in a personal computer.  They also had voice recognition integrated in the OS, first to support plug n play hardware, multiple monitor support dating back to the introduction of the Mac II. First to integrate SCSI in a personal computer (I think), actually they integrated networking with AppleTalk before they ditched it for ethernet, did laser printers with postscript, integrated a search engine in the OS first. integrated widgets into the OS first (even though they didn't invent widgets).  They integrated Cover Flow.

post #65 of 78
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Just for old time sake...

 

 

The Mac's desktop and desk accessories metaphor were introduced to the public in 1984.

 

According to wiki, the Knowledge Navigator was described in Sculley's book in 1987.

 

The Newton PDA and its Soup filesystem development also started in 1987. 

Apple-ARM worked together to release the ARM6 chip in 1992 for Newton (Apple owned part of ARM).

 

QuickTime multimedia platform, and speech recognition R&D started when Dr. Kai-Fu Lee arrived in Apple around 1990. 

But it was only done on the Mac since clearly the old ARM CPU wasn't powerful enough. I was in grade school at that time but I recognized the technologies.

 

Jobs killed Newton in late 1990s but reinvented it as iOS/iPhone in 2007.

iPad in 2010. The same ARM company supplies the CPU powering iOS.

 

Siri came in at 2011.

 

But along the way, many companies chip in.

God I mis Watson/Sherlock, I wish they would update it and reintroduce it.  I don't use widgets on OS X anymore, so if they got rid of widgets for OS X. I wouldn't miss it.

post #66 of 78
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Wow, my 4S can't use Camera filters. Guess ill just use Camera+. Crippled for sure.
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So let me get this straight, you're bragging that a 3rd party dev was able to get camera filters to work but Apple's army of programmers couldn't? That's something to be ashamed of not to go around bragging about.
post #67 of 78

It's a shame that developers jump on the bandwagon so quickly. iOS 7 may be broadly available on a range of devices, but the early tests on older devices strongly remind me of my experience with my iPhone 3G and iOS 4: painfully slow and crash-prone. In addition, iOS 7 looks terrible on an iPhone 4 (my device) without the gaussian blur and neither the parallax effect is enabled. For older iPhones this will be a tradeoff, and this announcement has only made it worse. I could very well live with iOS 6 in the foreseeable future, perhaps even with a jailbreak (for the first time) to get some of those major iOS 7 features.

post #68 of 78
Hopefully that's not 95% of App developers plan to redo their apps in the eye-bleeding color scheme of iOS 7. Because I'm pretty happy with most of my apps now.
post #69 of 78
I just read that the iOS 7 beta for the aging iPhone 4 is a lot zippier now.

I also think that Apple might have gone with the types of icons to see them better in direct sunlight. Can anyone running a beta of iOS 7 validate or invalidate this?

Thanks.
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It's just in fine print that's easy to miss.

You're completely and utterly wrong. Shut up and admit it.

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post #71 of 78
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Full iOS 7 will only be supported by iPhone 5, iPod Touch 5th gen, iPad 4 gen, and iPad mini. So much for support of older devices and fragmentation.

 

There are unsold Android phones sitting on store shelves or in warehouses that will never receive another OS update.
 

No, the iPhone 4 will not be able to use ALL of the features of iOS 7, but how many 3-year-old Android phones will receive an OS update of ANY kind?

 

This is one of the many reasons I decided to finally get an iPhone 5 a couple weeks ago. Apple products provide lasting value and usefulness. I wish I had gotten one sooner.

Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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post #72 of 78
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

You're completely and utterly wrong. Shut up and admit it.

How could I admit it if I'm busy shutting up?
post #73 of 78
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Originally Posted by KDarling View Post

 

The Knowledge Navigator wasn't a real project.  It was a fantasy video made for an educational convention to make it look like Apple was working on such things.   As the director of the educational marketing group inside Apple who made the video noted,

 

"NeXT claimed to be focused exclusively on the higher education market. Many of the higher ed(ucation) influencers and decision makers were saying that Apple had no vision for its future product line. John Sculley was scheduled to be the keynote speaker at Educom, and the stakes were high for us to show some “vision” of where Apple was going."

 

As for intelligent speech assistants, they go back at least to the 1960s with the Star Trek and Space Odyssey computers, which could hold a conversation, initiate calls, and correlate data upon request

 

 

OK, whatever you call it, whether a 'fantasy video' (disparaging its validity) or a "concept brief" (perhaps enhancing its validity), I think it's fair to say there is a pretty direct and measurable trajectory from that presentation to products like the iPad. It's frankly undeniable.

 

So, whatever was said, or occurred, or was thought of or even tried in-between (even referring back to 'ancient' sci-fi), the trajectory is still clear. 

 

The ideas summarized in the Knowledge Navigator video, whether original ideas or not, helped to define the trajectory that ultimately brought us here, holding a device known as the iPad (or more generically, the "tablet"), with its multi-touch interface and easy navigation of all the knowledge publicly available...

 

It only reinforces how well Steve Jobs could sense the direction things would take.

 

Finally, that video wasn't intended to mislead people into thinking these were products Apple was actively working on. It was intended to illustrate or demonstrate how Apple thought, how they imagined the potential of technology, and that they were steering their R&D in that direction. Although there may not have been specific products like it, this was "the future according to Apple". I think they did get it pretty much right in the end, no?

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So let me get this straight, you're bragging that a 3rd party dev was able to get camera filters to work but Apple's army of programmers couldn't? That's something to be ashamed of not to go around bragging about.

 

"Bragging"? "Ashamed of"?!?

 

Wow, your negativity, snarky tone, and aggressiveness is getting pretty old. Are you capable of chilling out even a little?

 

Besides, Camera+ is an awesome camera filters app (in addition to other features). A very cool app overall. We don't expect Apple to write EVERY SINGLE COOL APP we would ever want to use. That's asking a lot, and would waste the power of the iOS ecosystem. Apple provides the PLATFORM, and some good basic apps. Then they let the creative developer community take it and run with it. That's why we get to say, "there's an app for that". 

 

Why do YOU have a problem with that again, exactly?

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How could I admit it if I'm busy shutting up?

 

I'm guessing that in TS's view, you would accomplish it simply by shutting up. He could be right about that.

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I'm guessing that in TS's view, you would accomplish it simply by shutting up. He could be right about that.

If people would just be willing to try things out–like shutting up, for instance–they could see for themselves. 1tongue.gif

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If people would just be willing to try things out–like shutting up, for instance–they could see for themselves. 1tongue.gif

You should really practice what you preach.
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You should really practice what you preach.

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