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post #81 of 161
You lost me at FOX.
post #82 of 161
Mac Pro.

Now shut the hell up FOX.
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FYI Apple investors... this is the same guy that CLAIMED to be a Pulitzer Nominee in his bio and then had to drop the "nominee" part of his bio after being outed as being Full of Sh*t.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/also-not-pulitzer-prize-nominee-charles-gasparino-fox-business-848286

Says he is a Wall Street correspondent. That says it all. Someone is just trying to push the stock down.
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What a bunch of moronic statements. "Pace of innovation"? As if you can "innovate" on a fucking schedule. As is the comparison of the "pace" compared to the time of Steve Jobs. The iPhone and iPad were years in the works.

Arguably, the "pace" has done nothing but increase in the past couple years, with Apple's entire lineup being revamped, many products drastically. We're not gonna see anything as "holy shit" as the iPhone anytime soon, and besides a phone and a tablet, another mainstream form-factor does not really exist.

Oh boy! I'm so glad you are not in charged with Humanity progress and innovation, otherwise we should all still be living in caves saying: "What more do you want? Don't you have fire? Don't you have... sticks? How could other weapons exists besides sticks and stones? We can do the stones a little bigger, the sticks a little sharper, but other than that there really isn't anything!!!"

post #85 of 161

Can't innovate anymore my a**...

 

Fox News is pulling this out of their a**...

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I know it's probably too much to ask, but why can't a company sitting on $145 billion spend a bit more on R&D than say most other companies on the entire planet. All Apple needs to do is focus on just a couple of technologies. Apple is already working on processors which is great but it really needs to sink more money into battery technology because mobile devices depend so heavily on batteries.

If Apple were to develop the tech for batteries that lasted just 15% longer than any other battery with similar charging properties for a particular size, it would almost be unbeatable as long as they could protect it with patents. It would be a very stealthy type of improvement and it would be useful in practically every product Apple makes. It would practically put Apple at the forefront of every mobile company around.

Because they are stupid and greedy! Apparently Steve Jobs was the only guy with vision and balls. Everybody else at Apple are just yesmen without any vision or balls. With $145 billions you can do miraculous things if you have the balls to try it! But it's safer to just make things a little faster and a little thinner every year. What the hell, they didn't even have the courage to build a 5 inch screen for the iPhone! And that's not innovation, they already have the technology for this! Cowards!

post #87 of 161
Apple did to consumer applications what Microsoft did to business ones. But in all honesty, when I walk into an Apple store these days, there's nothing left I want to buy...

I have spent a small fortune over the years buying Apple gear, but there isn't really anything new for which I'd be willing to shell out more money.

I love their products and would like to buy more, but there hasn't really been much lately worth buying.

FYI - my latest purchase was the 27" iMac released in Jan 13 which I love. Also, I have no interest in the iWatch...

I believe Apple's gear is top notch, but how much are people willing to pay for the small incremental gains? I think this is also the problem with the PC industry (along with Microsoft's inept ability to release new product launches).
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Also, I have no interest in the iWatch…

What is it? How can you possibly know you don't want it if you don't even know it exists, much less what it is?
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…how much are people willing to pay for the small incremental gains?

Everyone, as they have for the past two decades or so. Thing is, Apple's pushing for bigger updates than the people who even make the hardware they use. They've asked Intel for their own GPU to blow away everything from everyone else. An integrated chip that will make people wonder why they ever wanted a dedicated GPU.

Not to say that Iris Pro isn't a leap itself from the 4000, but still. And never mind the new Mac Pro will blow away any other workstation on the market. Finally, I assume you're not talking about iDevices for the purposes of this argument, since every new model has tangible performance bumps.

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I don't think the board would talk to anyone on Apple matters outside of board meetings.


I don't think the board has any business knowing what's in the secret areas of products in Apple.  Imagine if they kept the board involved on what was coming when Eric Schmidt (the mole) was there.

Well, at least one board member talks:

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/156083/new-products-are-presented-to-apples-board-6-18-months-prior-to-launch

"Members of the board are typically presented with new Apple products 6 to 18 months before they are revealed publicly, Levinson said. He added that if a product is shown to the board with enough time before launch, sometimes the opinions of board members are taken into account with the final product."
post #90 of 161
Apple is the only tech company that can play it slow( that is release new swag yearly) and still whoop that a**!!!
Besides the tech Apple has pretty much spells out the mode of operation of humans.
*speaking
*interaction
* listening
The iPad/ iPhone covers all that.
Now, what Tim could do is recreate social. Apple is well poised to bring a new level of social to the people. IMHO
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Because they are stupid and greedy! Apparently Steve Jobs was the only guy with vision and balls. Everybody else at Apple are just yesmen without any vision or balls. With $145 billions you can do miraculous things if you have the balls to try it! But it's safer to just make things a little faster and a little thinner every year. What the hell, they didn't even have the courage to build a 5 inch screen for the iPhone! And that's not innovation, they already have the technology for this! Cowards!

 

OK let's summarize. 

 

The world according to Nelson X:

Apple is… "Stupid. Greedy. Has no vision. No balls. No courage. Cowardly." 

 

And all that because they haven't built your idea of the "ultimate handset"? You think a 5" iPhone is ideal?

 

31 million handsets that sold last quarter alone say otherwise. Based on every survey I've been able to find, the large-screen handset and "phablet" phenomena is more about media and PR hype than actual sales. Based on usage tracking reports, they still occupy the low single-digits in overall usage. So, why would Apple bother making one?

 

And you know, even Samsung is releasing an S4 "mini". The 'smaller screen' version of it's flagship 5" phone. Because, you know, that one isn't selling as well as hoped or expected? So they're reverting to the smaller screen format in hopes of boosting sales.

 

Yeah. 

 

So how about we retire that tired "Apple needs a larger iPhone" meme? It's tired. It's wrong. It's stupid. Get it?

post #92 of 161

Truth must be said, Apple hasn't been innovating a lot lately.  There hasn't been anything innovative since the iPad in 2010 yet, and no signs of anything new in the pipeline either.  An Apple TV console could be quite disruptive, yet for some reason it hasn't happened yet; the new iPod nano's value is completely lost on me, at least the old ones could be worn as watches; the new MacBook Pros have very little of Pro in them; the wars against Google are only harming their customers (to the point that I'm considering a switch back to a dumb phone and 2013 Nexus 7 as a PDA)...  That's the current Apple, nothing to be excited about.  A company of that size could afford some missteps every once in a while, but they'd rather fade away than ever admitting to being wrong and backtracking on their decisions.

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Truth must be said, Apple hasn't been innovating a lot lately.


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There hasn't been anything innovative since the iPad in 2010 yet, and no signs of anything new in the pipeline either.


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A company of that size could afford some missteps every once in a while, but they'd rather fade away than ever admitting to being wrong and backtracking on their decisions.

Don't forget: they're also very proud of the products that they didn't release.

Still, thanks for posting. I'd send you a Google Gift Card, but alas:
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-wallet-pulling-support-gift-loyalty-cards
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It's too soon to say the innovation has stopped, but there has been a bit of a dry spell in terms of product releases. I think the later must be what the board is complaining about, not the former.

 

And while (in terms of products) it might not hurt much to have a short dry spell, it does seem to be causing other companies/agencies to smell blood in the water (e.g, MS and Samsung suddenly unafraid to do anti-Apple ad campaigns, court judgments against them which don't seem objective, execs being dragged before congress), which is something Tim should not have let happen.

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O'Reilly claimed to have won the Pulitzer. Turned out it was a Peabody. Seems like Fox gets all the Pulitzer wannabes.

Not quite. I don't think even O'Reilly ever claimed to have won the Pulitzer. He claimed to have won the Peabody, but it was actually the Polk - and he didn't really win that either, since it was given after he left Inside Edition (see below).
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From this page: http://peabodyawards.com/mission/

The Award is determined by one criterion – “Excellence.”

And you say Bill O'Reilly actually won a Peabody award?



Mr. Peabody was probably rolling over in his grave the day that happened. 

There's much more to the O'Reilly Peabody story:
http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=959
http://blatherwatch.blogs.com/talk_radio/2008/06/the-peabody-in.html

In short:
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/06/27/who-needs-a-lousy-peabody-anyway-bill-oreilly-doesnt-really
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Bill O'Reilly has a checkered history with the Peabody Awards. For years, he claimed that his work on Inside Edition garnered two Peabodys, until he was outed by nemesis Al Franken as having confused the Polk Awards (won after O'Reilly was no longer with Inside Edition) with the more prestigious Peabodys.

Or, for the humorous version:
http://wikiality.wikia.com/Peabody_Award

In fact, as of 2009, NO ONE at Fox News had ever won a Peabody:
http://www.newshounds.us/2009/04/02/no_peabody_awards_for_fox_news_but_theyre_1_in_cable_news.php

A search of the Peabody site (http://peabodyawards.com) shows that O'Reilly still has not won one, nor has Fox News (although the Onion won one for a parody of Fox News).
http://peabodyawards.com/past-winners/award/?pbaward=1519&pb_search=1&pb_title=&pb_year=&pb_porg=&pb_query=

In short, don't believe anything you hear on Fox News.
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Originally Posted by NelsonX View Post

Because they are stupid and greedy! Apparently Steve Jobs was the only guy with vision and balls. Everybody else at Apple are just yesmen without any vision or balls. With $145 billions you can do miraculous things if you have the balls to try it! But it's safer to just make things a little faster and a little thinner every year. What the hell, they didn't even have the courage to build a 5 inch screen for the iPhone! And that's not innovation, they already have the technology for this! Cowards!

I needed this laugh.

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It's too soon to say the innovation has stopped, but there has been a bit of a dry spell in terms of product releases. I think the later must be what the board is complaining about, not the former.

Is one year a dry spell or a scheduled release cycle?
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Is one year a dry spell or a scheduled release cycle?
I hope in 2014 product releases are spaced out more and if not Apple does a better job of controlling the narrative.
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It's too soon to say the innovation has stopped, but there has been a bit of a dry spell in terms of product releases. I think the later must be what the board is complaining about, not the former.

And while (in terms of products) it might not hurt much to have a short dry spell, it does seem to be causing other companies/agencies to smell blood in the water (e.g, MS and Samsung suddenly unafraid to do anti-Apple ad campaigns, court judgments against them which don't seem objective, execs being dragged before congress), which is something Tim should not have let happen.

What do you suggest that Tim should have done to prevent being called to testify before Congress?

As for the court decisions, most of the significant ones against Apple have been overturned on appeal. The eBooks one will almost certainly be overturned on appeal when it gets in front of the court. In any event, how do you suggest that Tim could have prevented courts ruling against them, anyway?
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I've always bought Apple products because they are (were) super cool, but recently I've been getting ribbed by my Android phone owning mates who laugh at the infeasibly small screen on my iPhone 4..

Also they keep saying "Apple innovation died the minute Steve Jobs did..", and that the iPhone 5 will basically be a software update, but probably cost about $699 for the privelege. (Oh and a fingerprint sensor, like, massive wow..)

I think am gonna get a Samsung or HTC One, unless Apple pull something seriously cool out of the bag, I'm gonna jump ship.

In fact, furk it, I've answered my own questions, Apple is old hat. Their adverts prove it, they just say ".. more people take photos on their iPhone.." jees where's the innovation in THAT?
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I've always bought Apple products because they are (were) super cool, but recently I've been getting ribbed by my Android phone owning mates who laugh at the infeasibly small screen on my iPhone 4..

Also they keep saying "Apple innovation died the minute Steve Jobs did..", and that the iPhone 5 will basically be a software update, but probably cost about $699 for the privelege. (Oh and a fingerprint sensor, like, massive wow..)

I think am gonna get a Samsung or HTC One, unless Apple pull something seriously cool out of the bag, I'm gonna jump ship.

In fact, furk it, I've answered my own questions, Apple is old hat. Their adverts prove it, they just say ".. more people take photos on their iPhone.." jees where's the innovation in THAT?

Hmm...why do I call BS on this...
post #101 of 161

Here is the list of significant launches under Cook's leadership.  I find it very impressive

 

My one concern is the iPhone product line.   I expect we will see that addressed very shortly.  I also have to believe they are investing heavily in a few great ideas which we'll  see over 2014   

 

 

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iMac

MacBook Pro
iPad Retina 
iPad mini
iPhone 5
iPod refresh   (including major iPod touch update)
AirPort Extreme and TC 
 
Siri
Maps
ITunes in iCloud
 
ITunes 11
iTunes - international rollouts 
iTunes Radio 
 
iOS 6 & 7
OSX ML and Mavericks 
 
LogicPro X
Final Cut Pro X 
 
EarPods 
Lightning ports 
Thunderbolt 
 
60 Retail  Store openings 
Store Checkout

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post #102 of 161
Breaking News: Fox Business News talking head speaks out of his ass on matters he neither understands or has insight into.

Uhhhhhh....Hello, Fox? Yeah, I guess you slept through WWDC and the Mac Pro announcement.
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My one concern is the iPhone product line.   I expect we will see that addressed very shortly.  I also have to believe they are investing heavily in a few great ideas which we'll  see over 2014   

 

 

The iphone is of high concerns to me because of its major EPS impacts.

 

iphone 5s:  I am fine with rumors about it, as long as there are other models. I dont expect that phone to do well based on rumored specs.

iphone 5c:  I am fine regarding a sort of old iphone 5 specs at $500, but we also need a lower price point than this, $400 or even $300.

Screen size:  We need a bigger screen size phone. They can even put it in a phatblet category and not even call it an iphone, I dont care if the they cant make enough of it at this time, they need to put it out there and see how it sells.

 

Ipads:

Ipad 5:  I am fine with it based on rumors.

Ipad mini retina : With the retina nexus 7 on sale right now they cant delay the retina mini.

Old ipad mini : The old ipad mini price needs to drop in a major way, put it in plastic if you want but with those specs that thing is not worth more than $199. If they put an A6 in it, maybe $250.

 

Apple TV:

At the minimum, app store and gaming. Anything less is a joke.  Where the F is the freaking TV set? They need a TV "channels" solution, streaming packages or deals with cable, they need something, its being delay long enough.

 

New product category:

Last time was 2010, they need something by the end of 2014.

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Originally Posted by Rough Cider View Post

I've always bought Apple products because they are (were) super cool, but recently I've been getting ribbed by my Android phone owning mates who laugh at the infeasibly small screen on my iPhone 4..

Also they keep saying "Apple innovation died the minute Steve Jobs did..", and that the iPhone 5 will basically be a software update, but probably cost about $699 for the privelege. (Oh and a fingerprint sensor, like, massive wow..)

I think am gonna get a Samsung or HTC One, unless Apple pull something seriously cool out of the bag, I'm gonna jump ship.

In fact, furk it, I've answered my own questions, Apple is old hat. Their adverts prove it, they just say ".. more people take photos on their iPhone.." jees where's the innovation in THAT?

Ha. Where's the innovation with Sammy/HTC?
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The iphone is of high concerns to me because of its major EPS impacts.

iphone 5s:  I am fine with rumors about it, as long as there are other models. I dont expect that phone to do well based on rumored specs.
iphone 5c:  I am fine regarding a sort of old iphone 5 specs at $500, but we also need a lower price point than this, $400 or even $300.
Screen size:  We need a bigger screen size phone. They can even put it in a phatblet category and not even call it an iphone, I dont care if the they cant make enough of it at this time, they need to put it out there and see how it sells.

Ipads:
Ipad 5:  I am fine with it based on rumors.
Ipad mini retina : With the retina nexus 7 on sale right now they cant delay the retina mini.
Old ipad mini : The old ipad mini price needs to drop in a major way, put it in plastic if you want but with those specs that thing is not worth more than $199. If they put an A6 in it, maybe $250.

Apple TV:
At the minimum, app store and gaming. Anything less is a joke.  Where the F is the freaking TV set? They need a TV "channels" solution, streaming packages or deals with cable, they need something, its being delay long enough.

New product category:
Last time was 2010, they need something by the end of 2014.

I'm glad you're not running Apple.
post #105 of 161

Tim Cook is a great CEO but when was he ever an innovator in any Apple product's creation? Wasn't he always an expert on the production side? I mean like you can't teach an old dog new tricks. What's he gonna do- stand over Jonny Ive with a whip like he does with the Chinese assemblers? Yeah- like that's gonna work.

SJ was a visionary. Big difference. 

 
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Ha. Where's the innovation with Sammy/HTC?
 

 

They seem good phones with a decent (i.e. not too small/big for most people) sized screens ('m not on about these silly 5/6" onesout now). Time was when I whapped my iPhone out and would have looks of admiration from people. Now when I whap it out in front of say even an old HTC Sensation with it's full length screen mine looks very, well, inadequate. Like it's lost its sheen.

 

I had a play on my friends HTC and one thing that was impressive was his had 'Widgets', not just an icon, but, like an icon that is running and doing something. He said Android has had widgets for about 3 years, so why have we not? Time we started stealing other manufacturers ideas if we can't invent our own. :l

 

Just sayin'.

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Apple did to consumer applications what Microsoft did to business ones. But in all honesty, when I walk into an Apple store these days, there's nothing left I want to buy...

I have spent a small fortune over the years buying Apple gear, but there isn't really anything new for which I'd be willing to shell out more money.

I love their products and would like to buy more, but there hasn't really been much lately worth buying.

FYI - my latest purchase was the 27" iMac released in Jan 13 which I love. Also, I have no interest in the iWatch...

I believe Apple's gear is top notch, but how much are people willing to pay for the small incremental gains? I think this is also the problem with the PC industry (along with Microsoft's inept ability to release new product launches).

Put out a durable Apple eink reader and I'd buy it in a snap. And yes I own an iPad, iPad mini, and a eink Kindle.

 
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Tim Cook is a great CEO but when was he ever an innovator in any Apple product's creation? Wasn't he always an expert on the production side? I mean like you can't teach an old dog new tricks. What's he gonna do- stand over Jonny Ive with a whip like he does with the Chinese assemblers? Yeah- like that's gonna work.
SJ was a visionary. Big difference. 

Did you wake up this morning and go, 'duh, I think I'll post something totally stupid today'?
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Apple is the only tech company that can play it slow( that is release new swag yearly) and still whoop that a**!!!
 

 

Incorrect, that should be written in past tense. If you could sum up Apples releases and their collective reception by words/sounds, it would perhaps look something like this:

 

iPhone: WOOOO!

iPhone2: WAAAAHH!

iPhone3: WOOOOOW!

iPhone4: Hmmm..

iPhone5: OK this is beyond a joke.

 

Point is "Us loyal customers" have been happy to pay through the nose for what we perceived was the very latest in innovation, because we'd have a shiny box in our pockets with a silver fruit on it. Apple got wise to that but by their own greed, and by the law of diminishing return each 'upgrade' was actually not that much different than the previous incarnation.

 

I for one have finally cottoned on to this so unless iPhone5 is some absolutely colossally insane, tour de force of a phone with groundbreaking and lifestyle changing new features, I'll be spending my money elsewhere. Either W8 or Android, I'm sick of paying for the perceived greatness of the Apple brand, when the brand itself is starting to become very lacklustre.

 

PS I predict the iPhone5 will be little more than a slightly tweaked iPhone4 with updated Siri and a fingerprint reader. If so they can stick it right up their unimaginative pompous corporate backsides. Wide end first.

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Did you wake up this morning and go, 'duh, I think I'll post something totally stupid today'?

Like you just did and do everyday except in a cranky snarky way?

NO.

 
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Did you wake up this morning and go, 'duh, I think I'll post something totally stupid today'?

Same could be said about this post below:
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Incorrect, that should be written in past tense. If you could sum up Apples releases and their collective reception by words/sounds, it would perhaps look something like this:

iPhone: WOOOO!
iPhone2: WAAAAHH!
iPhone3: WOOOOOW!
iPhone4: Hmmm..
iPhone5: OK this is beyond a joke.

Point is "Us loyal customers" have been happy to pay through the nose for what we perceived was the very latest in innovation, because we'd have a shiny box in our pockets with a silver fruit on it. Apple got wise to that but by their own greed, and by the law of diminishing return each 'upgrade' was actually not that much different than the previous incarnation.

I for one have finally cottoned on to this so unless iPhone5 is some absolutely colossally insane, tour de force of a phone with groundbreaking and lifestyle changing new features, I'll be spending my money elsewhere. Either W8 or Android, I'm sick of paying for the perceived greatness of the Apple brand, when the brand itself is starting to become very lacklustre.

PS I predict the iPhone5 will be little more than a slightly tweaked iPhone4 with updated Siri and a fingerprint reader. If so they can stick it right up their unimaginative pompous corporate backsides. Wide end first.

Pst. The 5 is already out.
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They seem good phones with a decent (i.e. not too small/big for most people) sized screens ('m not on about these silly 5/6" onesout now). Time was when I whapped my iPhone out and would have looks of admiration from people. Now when I whap it out in front of say even an old HTC Sensation with it's full length screen mine looks very, well, inadequate. Like it's lost its sheen.

I had a play on my friends HTC and one thing that was impressive was his had 'Widgets', not just an icon, but, like an icon that is running and doing something. He said Android has had widgets for about 3 years, so why have we not? Time we started stealing other manufacturers ideas if we can't invent our own. :l

Just sayin'.

Is this the new "d1ck measuring" tactic?
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Is this the new "d1ck measuring" tactic?

 

Yes. you stand around in a circle, hands into trousers, then pop it out.

 

Now I hate facebook as much as the next man, but one cannot but admire the sales figures of Android phones over Apple in these graphs.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57554230/facebook-posters-push-employees-to-switch-to-android/

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Now I hate facebook as much as the next man, but one cannot but admire the sales figures of Android phones over Apple in these graphs.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57554230/facebook-posters-push-employees-to-switch-to-android/

That's sales, right? Not revenue. Yeah, thought so.
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I call shenanigans.
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That's sales, right? Not revenue. Yeah, thought so.

Sales IS the same thing as revenue. I'm guessing you are confused between revenue and profit.

Once again, simplified:

Revenue (or sales) - money that your company receives for a good or service

COGS (cost of goods sold) - direct manufacturing cost. That is, the variable cost of producing a product. Typically, includes raw materials and direct labor plus any overhead costs that would go away if the product were not manufactured.

Gross margin - Revenue minus COGS. This is the amount the company has left to pay overheads and profit.

Overhead costs - fixed costs that are there regardless of sales volume. For example, if you own a building, that building is a fixed cost since you have to pay the mortgage whether you sell anything or not. Sales and marketing costs are typically overheads (although commissions can sometimes be included in COGS). Research costs are overheads.

Operating income - Gross margin minus overhead costs. This is what most people refer to when they say 'profit'.

Other income or expense - income or expenses which don't fall into any of the above categories. For example Apple's interest income would fall here.

Net income - Operating income plus other income or minus other expense.
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Originally Posted by Constable Odo View Post

If Apple were to develop the tech for batteries that lasted just 15% longer than any other battery with similar charging properties for a particular size, it would almost be unbeatable as long as they could protect it with patents. It would be a very stealthy type of improvement and it would be useful in practically every product Apple makes. It would practically put Apple at the forefront of every mobile company around.

 

I think we'll see some real improvements with both Mavericks and iOS 7 in terms of battery conservation.  That's an area where Apple is innovating and can have an impact as big as developing a new battery technology.  Of course, it's more difficult to protect such software innovations, but still, Apple can get out ahead.  I also think that Apple must be doing as you suggest; working directly on battery technology.  Such advances could have benefits beyond just making Apple's iDevices more competitive.  Apple could license such technology into other fields (automotive comes to mind if the resultant technology could be applied).

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I don't get why everyone bashes Fox News. They aren't the only news organization reporting this about Apple. ? 

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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


In the Anglo-American system of governance, that is not an option. (The CEO reports to the Board -- they are his boss). All your thinking and due diligence on the person have to be done before you put someone on the Board.

That said, I can't say that SJ did a particularly good job on the Board front: a bunch of mediocrities, at best.

 

Actually, Apple required Eric Schmitt to recuse himself from board meetings where the iPhone was discussed, so there are certainly options.

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Not quite. I don't think even O'Reilly ever claimed to have won the Pulitzer. He claimed to have won the Peabody, but it was actually the Polk - and he didn't really win that either, since it was given after he left Inside Edition (see below).
There's much more to the O'Reilly Peabody story:
http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=959
http://blatherwatch.blogs.com/talk_radio/2008/06/the-peabody-in.html

In short:
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/06/27/who-needs-a-lousy-peabody-anyway-bill-oreilly-doesnt-really
Or, for the humorous version:
http://wikiality.wikia.com/Peabody_Award

In fact, as of 2009, NO ONE at Fox News had ever won a Peabody:
http://www.newshounds.us/2009/04/02/no_peabody_awards_for_fox_news_but_theyre_1_in_cable_news.php

A search of the Peabody site (http://peabodyawards.com) shows that O'Reilly still has not won one, nor has Fox News (although the Onion won one for a parody of Fox News).
http://peabodyawards.com/past-winners/award/?pbaward=1519&pb_search=1&pb_title=&pb_year=&pb_porg=&pb_query=

In short, don't believe anything you hear on Fox News.

 

That's not entirely correct. Chris Wallace has won the Peabody. He's won basically every broadcast news award. 

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Originally Posted by Epsico View Post

Truth must be said, Apple hasn't been innovating a lot lately.

Hey, you said something earlier about saying the truth, I thought. We're still waiting for you to do that. Or did you just mean it generically? Like "the truth must be said, but good luck getting me to be intelligent enough to do it"?
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There hasn't been anything innovative since the iPad in 2010 yet, and no signs of anything new in the pipeline either.

Just shut up and go away. You people disgust me.
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Originally Posted by Rough Cider View Post

…recently I've been getting ribbed by my Android phone owning mates who laugh at the unfeasibly small screen on my iPhone 4.

If they're that stupid, why are they your mates?
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Also they keep saying "Apple innovation died the minute Steve Jobs did..",

They sound like disgusting, heartless pigs, and they're idiots to boot. Why do you care what they think?
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and that the iPhone 5 will basically be a software update

Yep, they're idiots. That one is already out.
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In fact, furk it, I've answered my own questions, Apple is old hat. Their adverts prove it, they just say ".. more people take photos on their iPhone.." jees where's the innovation in THAT?

Oh, never mind. Keep hanging out with them. You'll fit right in.
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Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post

Tim Cook is a great CEO but when was he ever an innovator in any Apple product's creation?

No. Your question is: Why does he need to be?
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…with a whip like he does with the Chinese assemblers?

Apologize for lying. Now.

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