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Rumor: More photos of alleged 'iPad 5' digitizer surface, show thinner bezels

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As the end of an expected iPad refresh cycle draws near, the steady stream of rumors and "leaked parts" photos of Apple's next-generation device grows, with the latest images claiming to show a black version of the 9.7-inch tablet's digitizer.

iPad 5 Panel


Friday's supposed "iPad 5" photos come from Australian repair company Macfixit (via MacRumors), which posted the part as for sale on its website. The component is currently showing a "sold out" status.

The company's description of the part reads:

So it looks like we've got a preview of the replacement screen for the iPad 5 which is not even out yet!


The purported iPad front panel appears to be identical to a part showcased in a video released last week. Both "leaked" components boast thin side bezels akin to the design of Apple's current iPad mini.

Friday's images also include a close-up of the part's flex cables, which look to be shorter compared to the current fourth-generation iPad. Although mere speculation, the redesign could suggest Apple has rethought the internal component layout of the tablet in an effort to make the device thinner.

iPad 5 Panel


Apple is widely expected to debut a refreshed full-size iPad this fall with a design more in line with the iPad mini's curved edges and sleek profile. While it is unknown when Apple plans to release the next iPad, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who has a good track record in predicting Apple's product launches, expects the 9.7-inch iPad to make its debut in the third quarter of 2013.
post #2 of 30
Omg thinner bezel, I didn't expect that... /s
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I still think the bezels (for both current and supposed 'leaked' models) are still too thick. I know it's only been 3 years, but the bezels all seem so '2010'.
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Omg thinner bezel, I didn't expect that... /s

 

Yeah, it killed my sleep for next few weeks, too....

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Omg thinner bezel, I didn't expect that… /s

Why would you? This is making it dangerously close to unusably small.

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Why would you? This is making it dangerously close to unusably small.

I don't hear anyone complaining about the iPad mini being unusably small.

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This isn't an iPad it's the new "iPhone +" with 10 inch display. Take that Samsomething Galaxy 4S! lol.gif
 
Not quite iPad mini narrowness but an improved design without necessitating my thumbs futzing the screen every two seconds.
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Why would you? This is making it dangerously close to unusably small.

 

Just about right, I'd say. No smaller though please. You're right about that.

 

It looks like the top and bottom bezels are narrower than my older iPad too.

 

I wonder how much weight they are shaving off by reducing the overall dimensions? I'm sure they've left enough room in there to keep the battery big enough for 10 hours. I would be very surprised if they didn't. If they can get the weight a lot closer to one pound, that'll be a killer device... 

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I don't hear anyone complaining about the iPad mini being unusably small.

… Wait, really? But that's not the point I'm making.

The bezel! The bezel! The iPad mini's is a different beast, as is the iPhone's. The proper iPad needs a thumbable bezel!

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I'm not sure why Apple isn't headed in this direction. Thinner bezels are obviously possible. Also, why are they still touting the "Retina Display" as an advantage, when it's over 3 years old, and no longer a superior display?  1hmm.gif

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I'm not sure why Apple isn't headed in this direction. Thinner bezels are obviously possible. Also, why are they still touting the "Retina Display" as an advantage, when it's over 3 years old, and no longer a superior display?  1hmm.gif

Actually, the Retina Display in the iPad 4 is still considered the highest quality display of any tablet, period. And I'm not referring just to ppi (pixels per inch).  I am talking about overall contrast, sharpness, and color reproduction, in addition to ppi.  Even the Samsung GS4, with its 440ppi screen is not as color accurate as the iPad 4. Apple has a hit a home-run with this screen.

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I still think the bezels (for both current and supposed 'leaked' models) are still too thick. I know it's only been 3 years, but the bezels all seem so '2010'.

Exactly my thoughts. I've been patiently waiting for physical bezels and home button removed and replaced with a soft virtual bezel. Not gonna happen especially if the fingerprint sensor integrated with the home button (on iPhone first then ipad) and not with the multi touch screen. 1frown.gif
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Does the 'digitizer' refer to the capacitive touch screen of the iPad, or is Apple actually putting something like a Wacom Digitizer on the next iPad?

 

I just bought the 4th Gen. iPad this Wednesday and it is a joy to use after using the mini for many months. But if the next iPad has a Wacom Digitizer, then I'll be all over it.

 

Actually, I'll be all over it either way. It is just that, if it had a Digitizer, I'd buy it immediately. If it didn't, I'd probably wait a little longer.

post #14 of 30
Nice info but I not interest in the iPad5 anymore. It just too, too big for my needs. iPad Mini Retina is the one that I really want!
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This isn't an iPad it's the new "iPhone +" with 10 inch display. Take that Samsomething Galaxy 4S! lol.gif

 
Not quite iPad mini narrowness but an improved design without necessitating my thumbs futzing the screen every two seconds.

You joke about that, but Samsung would do something like that. There is no upper limit on screen gigantism, or apologists ready to troll about it.

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Why are they calling it the screen/digitizer? Can you press your thumb anywhere on the screen for recognition? 

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This isn't an iPad it's the new "iPhone +" with 10 inch display. Take that Samsomething Galaxy 4S! lol.gif

 
Not quite iPad mini narrowness but an improved design without necessitating my thumbs futzing the screen every two seconds.

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I need that!!

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I need that!!

Cue Dom Jolly -"HELLO?!"
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Na
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Why would you? This is making it dangerously close to unusably small.
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Na.....I'm looking forward to a lighter ipad with thinner bezel...but then I do have my mothers hands...lol ;p
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I'd use it, even if it is only to slap the snot out of anyone holding a phablet to his/ her ear!

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Cue Dom Jolly -"HELLO?!"

 

oh! um… I need that… to use as a blunt instrument on unsuspecting S4 users…! or a cricket bat.

 

yeahh, that's it... I forgot to mention that part...

 

that's the ticket...

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Originally Posted by Digital_Guy View Post

I'm not sure why Apple isn't headed in this direction. Thinner bezels are obviously possible. Also, why are they still touting the "Retina Display" as an advantage, when it's over 3 years old, and no longer a superior display?  1hmm.gif

That's the mistake that most people make when they compare nothing but individual specs. The number of megapixels is only part of the story. Contrast ratio, color saturation and color accuracy are three other specs that the general public tends to ignore. That's because they are far more difficult to understand than the much touted megapixel spec. Not so long ago, TV manufacturers were going all gaga about pushing their Full HD spec onto the unsuspecting public. Yet when compared, over at CNet, for overall picture quality, the Pioneer Kuro plasmas would come out on top, even though, the first generations of that TV were not "Full HD".
That being said, the 9.7 inch iPad can avoid being eclipsed by its smaller cousin if Sir Jony's team, manages to shave off a few ounces to make it much closer to the 1lb. mark.
post #24 of 30
Plus the accuracy of the touch sensors underneath the screen. I have a Samsung Tab 2 7.0 and sometimes have to touch a link 3 or 4 times before it will respond. In fact it is easier to click links on my iPhone 3GS than on the Tab 2.
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wow, that's the best looking bubblewrap app i've ever seen. it looks so real!
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Plus the accuracy of the touch sensors underneath the screen. I have a Samsung Tab 2 7.0 and sometimes have to touch a link 3 or 4 times before it will respond. In fact it is easier to click links on my iPhone 3GS than on the Tab 2.

 

That's not about touchscreen accuracy, but how the browser implements link target affinity in software.   In other words, whether or not it tries to calculate the most likely touch target.

 

I don't think the stock Android browser does that, but the later Android Chrome browser often auto-magnifies a target area to make it easier to choose.

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Originally Posted by Digital_Guy View Post

I'm not sure why Apple isn't headed in this direction. Thinner bezels are obviously possible. Also, why are they still touting the "Retina Display" as an advantage, when it's over 3 years old, and no longer a superior display?  1hmm.gif

 

ignorance at its best.  Samsung displays have oversaturated colors and can't display true white. Photo's look very fake looking and overly saturated reds and greens. Anyone who knows anything about displays know resolution is only 1 of many factors for picture quality.

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Is there really a need to triplicate the iPhone 10 image? Do people really enjoy making others scroll and scroll and scroll?

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That's not about touchscreen accuracy, but how the browser implements link target affinity in software.   

I believe that's implemented at a lower level than the browser. Furthermore, touchscreen accuracy or rather resolution is indeed an important factor. For whatever, it is one that is never discussed, leading the public to believe that discrepancies in multitouch performance to be an entirely OS issue.

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Why are they calling it the screen/digitizer? Can you press your thumb anywhere on the screen for recognition? 

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Originally Posted by BestKeptSecret View Post

Does the 'digitizer' refer to the capacitive touch screen of the iPad, or is Apple actually putting something like a Wacom Digitizer on the next iPad?

I just bought the 4th Gen. iPad this Wednesday and it is a joy to use after using the mini for many months. But if the next iPad has a Wacom Digitizer, then I'll be all over it.

Actually, I'll be all over it either way. It is just that, if it had a Digitizer, I'd buy it immediately. If it didn't, I'd probably wait a little longer.

So I think this is the iPad version of the ITO film-on-glass that was used in the iPad mini and which caused the production shortages last year in the weeks following the launch. (ITO is indium tin oxide).

They must have the production under control now. I haven't seen any reference to other companies using this presumably difficult bonding process, or any "digitizing" advantage, but there might be some. Mostly I've seen mentioned as the main advantage: you get rid of one layer of glass, and thus save thickness and weight.

Here's one article from a quick search:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/iPad-5-Will-Be-Thinner-and-Lighter-Thanks-to-DITO-Screen-DigiTimes-325855.shtml

"DITO" means dual ITO, and seems to be synonymous with "GF/2," which means glass-to-film two sided. Apparently the film is coated with ITO on two sides.

The display itself is the next layer. How you make a clean mating with the display glass onto the film is an interesting question for me. Also, it's more expensive than the previous glass sandwich, $200Au vs. about $100.

The reason that I'm posting all this detail about something which I really know nothing about first-hand is that I wish to ferret out any display experts out there. Waiting for corrections . . .

Edit: Did some searching about cover glass replacement and corrected accordingly.
Edited by Flaneur - 8/9/13 at 10:09am
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