That was my point. TS claimed that he had proof that there were paid shills here since he had IP addresses. The IP addresses do not, in general prove that someone was paid.
… Anyone who knows the IP address. There are plenty of IP lookup sites.
What if it was, say, from the corporate offices of Adobe, posting about how Apple was wrong for excluding Flash from the iPhone?
Their comment would be nonsense only if Apple had not tried to use rounded rectangular design patents.
In this case, though, Apple used designs from real products... unlike that generic rounded rectangular EU registered design that they used to put in lawsuits.
The first one ('757) was dismissed quickly, as no Samsung product looks exactly like it.
The second one ('678) ... for a rounded rectangular faceplate with rounded rectangular speaker slot and a rectangular screen cutout, took longer to determine as not infringed.
What Darling is attempting to claim is that Samsung doesn't copy Apple...
"What GTR is attempting to claim is that Apple invented rounded rectangles."
See, anyone can lazily create a strawman by putting words in someone else's mouth.
If you want to know what some else thinks, ask. Don't make it up on your own.
My post contained pictures of the two design patents, and why/when the ITC found that they were not infringed.
(It's up to each reader to form their own opinion as to whether they were right nor not.)
Your post had nothing to do with the ITC ban or thread.
The design patents that I posted _were_ used in the case by Apple against Samsung, which is why Samsung could mention rounded rectangles.
It's why some columnists, such as at the WSJ, noted "The ITC decision isn't a complete victory for Apple. The trade body rejected some claims made by Apple and absolved Samsung from infringing on patents associated with the most basic design of the iPhone."
In other words, some old Samsung models got banned for infringing minor stuff that they've already designed around or could change, but not for major design patents like a rounded rectangular front with a rounded rectangular speaker slot.
You mean, these microphones?
Or perhaps you meant the microphone on the keyboard that Android had first?
The fact is, icons are supposed to look familiar to people... that's why they often look alike. At least Samsung used a different shape microphone, with a different type of stand, than what others had used before.
No...no...that appears to have made things worse.
Now I can't hear BOTH of you!
How about we try troubleshooting?
1. Make sure you've got your devices turned on and plugged in...
2. Check your physicals...
3. Try replacing your devices altogether. I just happen to have some new units here.
You'll just have to unpack them...
4. If that doesn't work we may have to try something from a totally different platform altogether...
5. If no go, don't worry!
I still got you both covered...
6. We can communicate through this little girl.
I understand she's worked with both parties before and has excellent communication skills...
7. If still no success, then I guess we'll just have to pass...
Pass...book, that is.
Actually, the more I think about the ridiculous notion that Samsung is a copier, and not an innovator, the sillier it sounds.
You've both totally convinced me!