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All they need is a nice large screen phone and they'll be back on track.

Amen to that. It really sucks that it looks like we will have to wait one more year for that. iOS 7 along with a iPhone 5C and the fingerprint sensor on the 5S should see them through next year until it is ready. 

 

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Anyone know where Apple is holding this event?

Probably the same place they hold nearly all their big events. Moscone center. 

 

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Originally Posted by gwmac View Post
Probably the same place they hold nearly all their big events. Moscone center. 

 

Bah. Yerba Buena. Moscone hasn't been used for anything but WWDC since the first iPod touch in aught seven, has it?

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Amen to that. It really sucks that it looks like we will have to wait one more year for that. iOS 7 along with a iPhone 5C and the fingerprint sensor on the 5S should see them through next year until it is ready. 

I have a Galaxy S4 and an iPhone 5, I use my iPhone 90% of the time.

Screen size is irrelevant.

An example of how stupid this S4 is, I put the font to large and numbers disappear off the crappy widgety clock I installed but at least it still shows how much of the paltry 8.2GB of space it shipped with is left.
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I have a Galaxy S4 and an iPhone 5, I use my iPhone 90% of the time.

Screen size is irrelevant.

An example of how stupid this S4 is, I put the font to large and numbers disappear off the crappy widgety clock I installed but at least it still shows how much of the paltry 8.2GB of space it shipped with is left.

Hardly irrelevant. If you had an iPhone 5 with 4" and one with 5" which then would you use most. I know I certainly would prefer a larger iPhone and find my iPhone 5 annoying to use due to the smallish display. This is the one deficiency I find with the iPhone that may or may not apply to other people. But certainly a choice between the current and a larger size would make many more people very happy. 


Edited by gwmac - 8/10/13 at 11:11pm

 

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Originally Posted by gwmac View Post
Who cares?

 

You, by virtue of the fact that you tried to answer instead of saying 'who cares' in the first place.


How is that October prediction looking now TS.

 

Pretty good, since this isn't confirmation of anything, it was the logical prediction to make, and you don't know squat about when the products are being released.


I remember you attacking people for saying early September. And since you skipped the iPhone 3, 3GS, 4, 4S, and 5 why do you even care? Why fixate over the minutiae of a product you have no intention of ever buying or using. 

 

I remember you being told not to do this.

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If it's true that Apple will announce the new device(s) on September the 10th, then I think it is pretty much safe to predict that pre-orders would start on the same week, Friday the 13th (interesting enough :) and shipments would start on September the 20th. Of course this is just speculation, based on previous Apple releases.

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post #48 of 164

I'm curious to see what the pricing and storage sizes will be. Hope this date is correct. So far this has been a dry year for Apple info and products (to me!!!), iOS7 has me very excited - tired of the current aged iOS.

 

 

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Kewl. Think ill just wait till then to "jump" to T-mob. (Not for the retarded "jump" plan of course)

 

It's extremely insensitive to use the word "retarded," many people have children with Down Syndrome and it's not a mocking or laughing matter. There are many ways to communicate that message in a more mature way. Really.

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Keeping my fingers crossed for new releases in the iPad family as well.

 

Uncross them, they will definitely not release two major product updates in the same event.

 

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The rumored event to announce the next iPhone is at the same time as last year's event.. Shocker!!

 

Your sarcasm ("shocker") is wasted. If they always released products on the exact same date year to year then your attempt would be valid, but since they don't - you wasted it.

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post #50 of 164
Hell yeah! I just bought some Apple stock on Friday, what good timing! Bring it on! 1biggrin.gif

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Wow PED just roasted DED for this article!

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/category/apple-2-0/?iid=H_T_QL

"Most reporters will cover the fact that they have no independent confirmation through one of handful of headline tricks. The more honorable ones will acknowledge the source by name. Others will throw in a caveat -- "sources say," "reportedly," "may," "expected to" -- or simply put a question mark on the end of their headline.
A handful of the stories in the list above report the rumor as fact, without caveat or question mark. Most of them have little or no value to add. Steve Kovach's headline on Business Insider, for example, boldly declares that "Apple Will Announce its Next iPhone on September 10," but if you click his link you discover that, like the others, he's just piggybacking on Fried's report. Ray Basile does the same on iPhone Savior, and -- to my surprise -- so does AppleInsider's Daniel Eran Dilger."
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post #52 of 164
I wonder if Mavericks will be released or if it will be later in the fall with the iPads
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I wonder if Mavericks will be released or if it will be later in the fall with the iPads

I have a feeling Mavericks and Mac Pro will come together … October maybe?
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Wow PED just roasted DED for this article!

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/category/apple-2-0/?iid=H_T_QL

"Most reporters will cover the fact that they have no independent confirmation through one of handful of headline tricks. The more honorable ones will acknowledge the source by name. Others will throw in a caveat -- "sources say," "reportedly," "may," "expected to" -- or simply put a question mark on the end of their headline.
A handful of the stories in the list above report the rumor as fact, without caveat or question mark. Most of them have little or no value to add. Steve Kovach's headline on Business Insider, for example, boldly declares that "Apple Will Announce its Next iPhone on September 10," but if you click his link you discover that, like the others, he's just piggybacking on Fried's report. Ray Basile does the same on iPhone Savior, and -- to my surprise -- so does AppleInsider's Daniel Eran Dilger."

Surely you've been around long enough to realize that it always works that way. All it takes is one source to start an Apple rumor and within days it has appeared on hundreds of sites. Then, the fact that ti's on hundreds of sites is used as 'confirmation' that it must be true. Then, when it turns out to not be true, someone releases a story that Apple failed to do it because of supply chain problems or because of the development team being behind schedule - and the stock drops.
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post #55 of 164
Looking forward to the new iPhone. I heard rumors the 5s might be 4.3 inches which would be nice. I'm also looking forward to the release of the ipad 5 and ipad mini 2 with retina display.
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Same here. My Verizon contract will expire in Oct. I will jump into smartphone for the first time and I am sure I want iPhone. Tmobile suits me much better when it comes to smartphone plans.
 

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Hardly irrelevant. If you had an iPhone 5 with 4" and one with 5" which then would you use most. I know I certainly would prefer a larger iPhone and find my iPhone 5 annoying to use due to the smallish display. This is the one deficiency I find with the iPhone that may or may not apply to other people. But certainly a choice between the current and a larger size would make many more people very happy. 

The 4" without question. I have used 4.3" display devices and find them too big for day to day use.
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What did Mr. Ming-Chi Kuo predict?
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Wow PED just roasted DED for this article!

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/category/apple-2-0/?iid=H_T_QL

"Most reporters will cover the fact that they have no independent confirmation through one of handful of headline tricks. The more honorable ones will acknowledge the source by name. Others will throw in a caveat -- "sources say," "reportedly," "may," "expected to" -- or simply put a question mark on the end of their headline.
A handful of the stories in the list above report the rumor as fact, without caveat or question mark. Most of them have little or no value to add. Steve Kovach's headline on Business Insider, for example, boldly declares that "Apple Will Announce its Next iPhone on September 10," but if you click his link you discover that, like the others, he's just piggybacking on Fried's report. Ray Basile does the same on iPhone Savior, and -- to my surprise -- so does AppleInsider's Daniel Eran Dilger."
CultofMac is the worst. Every headline about a rumor is usually stated as fact.
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I'm holding out for the 17" MacBook Pro with a phone.

 

Same here, but it has to have a matte screen.
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Wow PED just roasted DED for this article!

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/category/apple-2-0/?iid=H_T_QL

"Most reporters will cover the fact that they have no independent confirmation through one of handful of headline tricks. The more honorable ones will acknowledge the source by name. Others will throw in a caveat -- "sources say," "reportedly," "may," "expected to" -- or simply put a question mark on the end of their headline.
A handful of the stories in the list above report the rumor as fact, without caveat or question mark. Most of them have little or no value to add. Steve Kovach's headline on Business Insider, for example, boldly declares that "Apple Will Announce its Next iPhone on September 10," but if you click his link you discover that, like the others, he's just piggybacking on Fried's report. Ray Basile does the same on iPhone Savior, and -- to my surprise -- so does AppleInsider's Daniel Eran Dilger."
To DED's defense, he at least does some research. He will not just post something he might've read from an IDC report and leave it at that. Yes he does try to put a positive spin in favor of Apple most of the time, which is not surprising when one considers that many other sites just report stuff like "Android is crushing the competition with 80% marketshare".
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Hardly irrelevant. If you had an iPhone 5 with 4" and one with 5" which then would you use most. I know I certainly would prefer a larger iPhone and find my iPhone 5 annoying to use due to the smallish display. This is the one deficiency I find with the iPhone that may or may not apply to other people. But certainly a choice between the current and a larger size would make many more people very happy. 

 

Well go buy one of the Android phones already available, as I can one side by side with an iPhone, seriously there is no real difference in legibility of text.

 

In reality you are promoting a furphy.

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post #63 of 164
I imagine the "cheap" iPhone will be supplanting the spot the 4S would have taken and they'll still sell the 5 as the mid-tier option? My brother has been using one of my iPhone4's and he's going to let me use his upgrade price to get a new phone. Then my 4 goes to my wife. But I'm just wondering if they will continue selling the 5 or if I should just go ahead and get it now. I just don't want to wait a month to save 100 bucks only to have them stop offering it and have to pay $5-700. Which I wouldn't do, I'd just get a 4 or 4S. Bah.
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expected release an enhanced new iPhone 5S with a similar form factor to the existing iPhone 5

 

Interesting bit of speculation, this article.  However, I have to ask how something NEW can be desribed as an "enhanced" version of itself? 

And what the heck is a "form factor"?  We keep hearing this bit of journalese, but it means nothing to me. 

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And what the heck is a "form factor"?  We keep hearing this bit of journalese, but it means nothing to me.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=form+factor
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And what the heck is a "form factor"?  We keep hearing this bit of journalese, but it means nothing to me. 

It's actually a bit of "designish" (I happen to have a degree in industrial design) stolen by reporters and the media - like "innovation" and "ideation" and "design thinking" don't even get me started on that one - basically meaning "shape & size". I agree, it's sort of BS, as is any professional subculture jargon, but it gets used, and helps people in a certain bubble communicate.
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Well go buy one of the Android phones already available, as I can one side by side with an iPhone, seriously there is no real difference in legibility of text.

 

In reality you are promoting a furphy.

No in reality I have an iPhone 5 and have used a HTC One, a HTC DNA, and a Samsung Galaxy S4 and found reading text far easier on the larger displays. Especially in games like Modern War where the text is tiny it can be very hard to read on the iPhone but very easy to read on larger phones. The same applies to other apps with fixed font sizes for menu and GUI type app specific fonts. You are promoting your preference and personal bias onto other people instead of admitting that many current iPhone owners like me reluctantly chose an iPhone because they like iOS and the Apple ecosystem but would much rather have a larger display. And exactly how would it harm or effect you in any way if they made a larger iPhone alongside the current 4" model?   


Edited by gwmac - 8/11/13 at 9:43am

 

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One month to the most amazing smartphone ever created, plus a new iPad 5 and maybe an iPad mini 2, time to buy some more apple stock
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The 4" without question. I have used 4.3" display devices and find them too big for day to day use.

Big deal, I use a 4" iPhone 5 every day and find it too small to use comfortably and is my biggest complaint. Big phones are not a fad or niche. They are here to stay and are selling in huge numbers. Apple will make a larger display and Tim Cook basically said as much. He simply said there are certain compromises on screen quality they need to overcome which is Apple speak for "it will happen next year when IGZO or some other new display technology is ready" Then you can continue to be happy with your 4" and people like me will finally have an option we can also thoroughly enjoy using. Win Win for everyone. 

 

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They are here to stay and are selling in huge numbers.

Source? While I do believe a larger iPhone is being developed, Apple doesn't NEED one.
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Unless the next iPhone sports a much bigger screen, I don't give a damn about the hardware. Looking forward to the next version of iOS though. 
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It's extremely insensitive to use the word "retarded," many people have children with Down Syndrome and it's not a mocking or laughing matter. There are many ways to communicate that message in a more mature way. Really.

Uncross them, they will definitely not release two major product updates in the same event.


Your sarcasm ("shocker") is wasted. If they always released products on the exact same date year to year then your attempt would be valid, but since they don't - you wasted it.

If they released the exact same number of major products at each event, then we'd know for sure.
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Source? While I do believe a larger iPhone is being developed, Apple doesn't NEED one.

Apple very much needs one. Though I think one more year won't hurt them too badly. You really do underestimate the number of current iPhone owners who love the iPhone and iOS but are salivating at the prospect of a larger display. These people will not wait forever and will eventually venture over to Android. Not to mention current Android owners who cite the display size as their #1 reason for choosing the phone. These people are lost to Apple until there is a larger iPhone.

 

As far as a source, look at the sales of larger screened phones which together outsell the iPhone. The iPhone might still beat them individually in sales but as a group the number of phones with displays larger that  4.5" passed total iPhone sales 2 years ago and the gap is widening. 

 

This link is from September 2012 and the gap is much wider nearly a year later. People want larger displays. Why is that so hard for some of you to understand or fathom?

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/03/android-smartphone-sales-led-by-big-screens-are-growing-everywhere-except-in-the-u-s-kantar/

 

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Vocal minority.

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Probably the same place they hold nearly all their big events. Moscone center. 

Bah. Yerba Buena. Moscone hasn't been used for anything but WWDC since the first iPod touch in aught seven, has it?

Intel's at Moscone on September 10th-12th:

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/intel-developer-forum-idf/san-francisco/2013/idf-2013-san-francisco.html

Having the events on the same day would allow both Apple to launch the Mac Pro as well as other hardware and Intel to show it off with Thunderbolt 2 and the new Xeons.
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Don't forget the Mac Pro launch date will be announced on this keynote.

 

Or it won't. Because it could be announced, or even launched, by then. I won't be shocked if the Mac Pro, perhaps a new Cinema Display and Mavericks are either a soft launch on the site or via press release. Or a combo. After all the market for the two hardware pieces is rather scant compared to the software so why do much more than a letter of announcement and it's on the site. 

 

I'm still hoping that there is a new Cinema Display and it has HDMI, screen size and quality to be used as a tv. I could use a new monitor but I also wouldn't mind a second tv. Since most of my tv viewing is iTunes, Hulu etc being able to hook up an Apple TV would work for me. Especially with the new Mavericks Air Play display mode. In my perfect world the display would have enough kick for even Blu-ray and the Apple TV would be usable as a control bypass and I could plug my player into it and use the ATV interface etc. Not unlike how I can control our cameras via Final Cut when I'm ingesting. I think a lot of folks would love an Apple TV with enough power and tricks for that kind of controller mode and even support for higher quality 1080p that is more a copy of physical discs (complete with multi audio, subtitles, features) and perhaps even passive 3D (think pixar films with the polarized light glasses not the big chunky ones)

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Apple very much needs one. Though I think one more year won't hurt them too badly. You really do underestimate the number of current iPhone owners who love the iPhone and iOS but are salivating at the prospect of a larger display. These people will not wait forever and will eventually venture over to Android. Not to mention current Android owners who cite the display size as their #1 reason for choosing the phone. These people are lost to Apple until there is a larger iPhone.

 

As far as a source, look at the sales of larger screened phones which together outsell the iPhone. The iPhone might still beat them individually in sales but as a group the number of phones with displays larger that  4.5" passed total iPhone sales 2 years ago and the gap is widening. 

 

This link is from September 2012 and the gap is much wider nearly a year later. People want larger displays. Why is that so hard for some of you to understand or fathom?

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/03/android-smartphone-sales-led-by-big-screens-are-growing-everywhere-except-in-the-u-s-kantar/

Agreed.

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Quantity over quality is way better than quality over quantity Lookin forward to the next big thing apple 😉😊

 

I disagree. One quality device is way better than 50 so so ones. 

 

I know a lot of folks are dissing on this 'budget' iphone but I think that is because they are defining terms the wrong way. I don't think that Apple is making a cheap/budget phone at all. More just redoing how they do the whole "keep the last two models in a lower storage" game. It seems clear they want to get everything on the new lighting connector pronto so keeping the 4 and 4s plus the iPad 2 just doesn't fit. The iPad they could achieve just by keeping the iPad 4 like line up but with changes in part pricing they might be able to hang onto the 16GB iPad 4, perhaps even add an 8GB for super light users and make the base $499 model 32GB and so on. 

 

On the iPhones they need a little more work. If they follow trend they would have the 'old school' 4S, 5 and Whatever (lets say 5S just for sake of history) with the new connector. That doesn't really work. So perhaps they are thinking to go for something like an 8GB iPhone 5 for the super budget, 16GB for the slightly up (ie the $0 and $99 with contract) and the 5S at 32 and 64GB. The whole plastic thing could be a total myth like the teardrop phone, or perhaps it's a prototype that was rejected. Or yes it is possible that only the color thing is a myth but they are making that 8GB in a tougher shell not to make it budget but under the belief that it will be mostly kids carrying that phone. Or maybe, crazy thought, they are basically skipping an S and all iPhone will have this new shell because they realized that the aluminum looked great but was too easy to cosmetically damage and thus not there yet. This 'plastic' could be some kind of lightweight polycarbonate etc not really so cheap. Who knows at this point what could be going on. The possibilities are more than just 'cheap parts to sell it cheap for broke 3rd world countries'

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Probably the same place they hold nearly all their big events. Moscone center. 

 

This isn't really a big event typically. Unlike something like WWDC where they need room for thousands this is more a couple hundred reporters etc. So It's more likely to be held on campus in the Town Hall like the last couple of years. Or perhaps at YBCA

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