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Reports of "faulty" GPS, "buggy" multitouch, "jittery" scrolling and an ecosystem that "still lags iOS" weren't enough to stop Google's latest Nexus 7 from getting a stellar review on par with Apple's iPad mini.


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In part, that's because some of the issues hadn't surfaced when The Verge awarded Google's new Nexus 7 a 9/10 score in late July, a tie with its review score of Apple's iPad mini. The refreshed Nexus 7 review did note jittery scrolling and a lagging ecosystem of apps, however.

David Pierce wrote that "somehow Google still can't figure out how scrolling animations work, so the Play Store is as jittery as ever ? but there's no question that the Nexus 7 is one of the fastest, smoothest Android tablets I've ever used."

That's not exactly high praise, given that the majority of Android tablets are no-name "white box" devices with underpowered processors that sell for as little as $40.

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Pierce also noted that "the Android app situation has improved a lot, but it's still squarely in the iPad's rearview mirror. From Paper to Clear to Badland, it's no contest." However, "outside of that discrepancy," he wrote, "the Nexus 7 is a better tablet than the iPad mini."

A tablet without apps is like a PC without software



Google's Asus-built, Android-powered Nexus 7 suffers from what you might call the Amiga Syndrome: cheap hardware with notable features but a dearth of quality apps. You could also call it an Atari ST or an Acorn Archimedes or a BeBox, or compare it to any number of other computers that didn't run the software the mainstream market wanted and subsequently aren't around anymore.

While Apple focused on making sure its tablet had iPad-optimized apps on the day it shipped, Google has relied on providing tools to stretch Android's smartphone apps to fit larger screens.

That's allowed hardware makers to experiment with a wide variety of screen sizes, ratios and resolutions. But it hasn't resulted in a good selection of tablet-optimized apps, a particular problem for important tablet markets such as education and the enterprise.

Without native apps, Google might as well sell tablets running its ChromeOS, where software is an enhanced webpage. In fact, Google's lack of commitment to Android apps and Android form factors relative to its investment in ChromeOS versions of the MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, Mac mini and Apple TV suggest that Google has a much greater affinity to its web-based platform than to its Java-like smartphone platform.

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Apple even wrote its own first party iPad apps to set a high bar for its third party partners to aspire to, including iBooks and a suite sophisticated productivity apps it released alongside the original iPad (Pages, Keynote and Numbers, $9.99 each) followed by iPad-optimized releases of GarageBand and iMovie the following year, for just $4.99 each.

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Writing for Time, Jared Newman observed, "Google should take the lead and make some killer Android apps like these. Both iMovie and GarageBand are excellent apps that help justify the iPad as more than a consumption device, and there?s really nothing that comes anywhere close on Android."

He added, "Some apps that claim to be tablet-friendly are just barely so on Android. The New York Times, for instance, gives you a sidebar of extra stories when you browse the front page in landscape mode, but when you?re reading a story, you don?t get the iPad version?s lovely column view and story teasers."

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Android vs iPad versions of the NYT Source: Time


Even worse, he noted that while "many of the most popular iPad apps are available for Android, but they aren?t always designed to take advantage of the extra real estate of tablet displays. Twitter, Facebook, Dropbox and Pandora are the worst offenders, stretching out their interfaces instead of filling the screen with sidebars and menus."

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Android vs iPad versions of Pandora Source: Time


As a platform in competition with Apple, Android is often compared to Microsoft Windows. But the primary reason why Windows became successful and ubiquitous in the 1990s was that it offered a wide range of virtually any kind of software users wanted or needed.

Windows' expansive software offerings included many exclusives that were only available for that platform, or which offered significantly better or more frequently updated versions of apps that only made their way to other platforms much later or in feature limited versions. And of course, Microsoft also offered key first party titles of its own, most notably Office.

Those are circumstances associated today with iOS, not Android. Limited software offerings are not the only issue differentiating it from Apple's iPad however.

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Within a couple weeks of the Nexus 7's release, CNET reported that Google's new Nexus 7 was "plagued by a GPS glitch," explaining, "the GPS signal works for a certain amount of time, anywhere from 2 to 30 minutes, and then it simply conks out, leaving the user without a connection."

It added, "Google is apparently aware of the problem and is investigating."

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This week, Engadget reported, "some users are also reporting issues with multitouch" on the new Nexus 7, again citing a response from Google stating, "the Android team is aware of this issue and investigating."

The report included a user's YouTube video depicting the multitouch sensors going haywire while tracking just two finger points.



While Engadget hoped that the situation could be rectified in a software update, a report by The Full Signal added that users have noted the Nexus 7 "touchscreen only becomes problematic when it's laying on a non-grounded surface like a sofa or a coffee table. Some have also mentioned that the issue doesn't seem to be present at all when the tablet is plugged in."

This all happened before



After the The Verge published its 9/10 review, John Gruber of the Daring Fireball noted, "Last year?s Nexus 7 got an 8.8 from The Verge, yet most people, including The Verge, now agree it was a turd."

In June, less than a year after the original Nexus 7 was released, AppleInsider described buyers' frustrations with it.

As Dustin Early of AndroidAndMe observed, "I can?t find one person who has been using the Nexus 7 for an extended period of time, and hasn?t seen a massive downgrade in performance."

TurdGate



In a piece titled, "One year later, the Nexus 7 has gone from the best to worst tablet I?ve ever owned," Early stated, "I cannot pick up my Nexus 7 without experiencing problems like a lag of ten seconds, or more, just to rotate the display," describing issues with "touches refusing to [be] acknowledged; stuttering notification panel actions; and unresponsive apps."

Originally thought to be related to batches of bad memory, the issues were eventually revealed to be a combination of defective hardware and unfinished software. One Android developer described a known "bug in Samsung's flash controller firmware."

Google itself later floated a new version of Android 3.2 capable of properly supporting TRIM commands required to manage solid state storage, an issue that months had rendered many users' Nexus 7 "just a shell of its former self," and "an embarrassment to Google," in the words of Early.

Reviewing the product for The Verge last year, Joshua Topolsky, wrote, "Google's Nexus 7 isn't just an excellent tablet for $200. It's an excellent tablet, period."
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Media sells story. Story always has drama — the noble king humbled, the peasant who becomes a lord, the evil villain who succeeds but everyone believes deserves to fail, the pure of heart upstart who fails but everyone hopes will succeed.

We're not reading or watching reality, we're all consumers of stories. This article refers to folks choosing a compelling storyline and spinning out the drama. Enjoy the fiction and move on.
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Reports of "faulty" GPS, "buggy" multitouch, "jittery" scrolling and an ecosystem that "still lags iOS" weren't enough to stop Google's latest Nexus 7 from getting a stellar review on par with Apple's iPad mini.

In part, that's because some of the issues hadn't surfaced when The Verge awarded Google's new Nexus 7 a 9/10 score in late July, a tie with its review score of Apple's iPad mini. The refreshed Nexus 7 review did note jittery scrolling and a lagging ecosystem of apps, however.

But mostly because the Verge's scoring system is to rate the tablets, then add 4 to the score if it's an Android tablet and subtract 1 if it's an iOS tablet. The Verge has NEVER been a reasonable source for unbiased reviews.
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This all happened before



After the The Verge published its 9/10 review, John Gruber of the Daring Fireball noted, "Last year?s Nexus 7 got an 8.8 from The Verge, yet most people, including The Verge, now agree it was a turd."

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And yet it looks to me like an other DOA.
But hey they have to try don't they?
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That's what happens when you make cheap for the sake of cheap. No surprise here at all. It seems Android owners are accustomed to this sort of behavior and almost expect it.
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Paid shills - The internet is full of them...

Cheers AI for exposing those crooks for what they really are!
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The retina Mini better get a 10/10 at all of these review houses then. If not then everyone will know how full of it these shills are.
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Seems the new Nexus 7 got great reviews for mainly one reason: the retina like display. A secondary reason is the first generation was so bad it would be damn near impossible for the second gen not to be an improvement.

This is why Apple needs a retina mini this fall. Get a retina mini out there and nobody but a few rabid Fandroids will care about the Nexus 7 anymore. 1biggrin.gif
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Seems the new Nexus 7 got great reviews for mainly one reason: the retina like display. A secondary reason is the first generation was so bad it would be damn near impossible for the second gen not to be an improvement.

This is why Apple needs a retina mini this fall. Get a retina mini out there and nobody but a few rabid Fandroids will care about the Nexus 7 anymore. 1biggrin.gif

3rd reason appears to be the price which is an area Apple will not compete thankfully.

It seems most rumors are saying Retina is coming this fall which is good news.
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This article is sooooo Bias. Why another company can't have a better product than Apple? I doubt all these problems exists in first place. It is really sad to read this article. Does Apple pay you guys? OK we get it Apple is the best nothing is better than Apple. We wont buy the Nexus 7 only iPads got the message.

Please buy a Nexus and feel what is written on this article. 

It is good to feel the slap than seeing it.

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This article is sooooo Bias. Why another company can't have a better product than Apple? I doubt all these problems exists in first place. It is really sad to read this article. Does Apple pay you guys? OK we get it Apple is the best nothing is better than Apple. We wont buy the Nexus 7 only iPads got the message.

 

How is this article biased? All AI did was to present events as they happened. Did you even read it???

 

IMHO the Verge got paid by Google to write an overly positive review and then retracted it about a year later. This is common practice in the world of yellow press...

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Why another company can't have a better product than Apple? I doubt all these problems exists in first place. It is really sad to read this article. Does Apple pay you guys? OK we get it Apple is the best nothing is better than Apple. We wont buy the Nexus 7 only iPads got the message.

 

Because they don't. They can, but they don't, which is evident if you use the product. The problems exist. Otherwise it wouldn't be possible to claim they exist and have it stick.

 

This is probably the first time I've seen a reverse shill accusation. Do you have any 1. fact to back up your claims (any of them, not just the "paid by Apple" crap) 2. idea where you are?

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Seems the new Nexus 7 got great reviews for mainly one reason: the retina like display. A secondary reason is the first generation was so bad it would be damn near impossible for the second gen not to be an improvement.

This is why Apple needs a retina mini this fall. Get a retina mini out there and nobody but a few rabid Fandroids will care about the Nexus 7 anymore. 1biggrin.gif

Retina mini will eat out the share of iPad.  

They better bring in iPad a yet higher resolution display and retina to mini. 1smoking.gif

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Fandroids have extremely low standards and subpar expectations.

Clueless people who have no clue about anything technical like to boast about specs, but what the hell does specs matter when you pick up the damn device in your hands and it jitters and lags? Who gives a crap about how many cores or how much RAM your device has, when it performs like crap? A Fandroid would probably boast about a girlfriend that has size D boobs, while neglecting to mention that she also has the face of a pig and the butt of a cow.

And then there's the case of actually having tablet apps, not blown up phone apps that look and perform like crap. And good luck trying to do any music on any Android tablet.

All Android tablets gets two thumbs down from me.
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Fandroids have extremely low standards and subpar expectations.

Clueless people who have no clue about anything technical like to boast about specs, but what the hell does specs matter when you pick up the damn device in your hands and it jitters and lags? Who gives a crap about how many cores or how much RAM your device has, when it performs like crap? A Fandroid would probably boast about a girlfriend that has size D boobs, while neglecting to mention that she also has the face of a pig and the butt of a cow.

And then there's the case of actually having tablet apps, not blown up phone apps that look and perform like crap. And good luck trying to do any music on any Android tablet.

All Android tablets gets two thumbs down from me.

 

No words can describe better than this. 

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"Google itself later floated a new version of Android 3.2 capable of properly supporting TRIM commands "

That should read Android 4.3 (not 3.2)
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And good luck trying to do any music on any Android tablet.

1confused.gif Music is one of those things that isn't an issue to the best of my knowledge. Google All-Access is pretty well done IMO. I particularly like the access to specific songs and/or artists and finding that even your "thumbs-up" selections can be turned into you own radio station was a nice find. That $8/mo I pay (I believe it's $10 for new users now) for streaming to a smartphone, tablet, computer or even HDTV is hard to beat value-wise. Excellent audio quality too.
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1confused.gif Music is one of those things that isn't an issue to the best of my knowledge. Google All-Access is pretty well done IMO. I particularly like the access to specific songs and/or artists and finding that even your "thumbs-up" selections can be turned into you own radio station was a nice find. That $8/mo I pay (I believe it's $10 for new users now) for streaming to a smartphone, tablet, computer or even HDTV is hard to beat value-wise. Excellent audio quality too.

This has been discussed before. I am specifically referring to music creation, not regular music playback.

It is a well known issue that realtime music creation on Android is a huge problem, with enormous latency.

That's why all of the big music apps are on iOS, from companies like Korg, Moog, Yamaha, Waldorf, Arturia etc.........
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And good luck trying to do any music on any Android tablet.

1confused.gif Music is one of those things that isn't an issue to the best of my knowledge. Google All-Access is pretty well done IMO. I particularly like the access to specific songs and/or artists and finding that even your "thumbs-up" selections can be turned into you own radio station was a nice find. That $8/mo I pay (I believe it's $10 for new users now) for streaming to a smartphone, tablet, computer or even HDTV is hard to beat value-wise. Excellent audio quality too.

I don't think he means what you think he means by 'music.'
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Fandroids have extremely low standards and subpar expectations.

Clueless people who have no clue about anything technical like to boast about specs, but what the hell does specs matter when you pick up the damn device in your hands and it jitters and lags? Who gives a crap about how many cores or how much RAM your device has, when it performs like crap? A Fandroid would probably boast about a girlfriend that has size D boobs, while neglecting to mention that she also has the face of a pig and the butt of a cow.

And then there's the case of actually having tablet apps, not blown up phone apps that look and perform like crap. And good luck trying to do any music on any Android tablet.

All Android tablets gets two thumbs down from me.
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I don't think he means what you think he means by 'music.'
Yeah, I just realized he must be referring to music creation and not listening. I'm no musician myself, but it doesn't look like you can't create music on an Android device. I personally can't speak for how well it does as I've never tried it nor even wanted too.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imageline.FLM
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1confused.gif Music is one of those things that isn't an issue to the best of my knowledge. Google All-Access is pretty well done IMO. I particularly like the access to specific songs and/or artists and finding that even your "thumbs-up" selections can be turned into you own radio station was a nice find. That $8/mo I pay (I believe it's $10 for new users now) for streaming to a smartphone, tablet, computer or even HDTV is hard to beat value-wise. Excellent audio quality too.

I think he was talking about more than just listening to music!!!!
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I think he was talking about more than just listening to music!!!!

Yeah I mentioned that several minutes before you posted. Thanks tho.
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This may come across as being a complete A-Hole... but I've decided to do something rather naughty of late: I'm pushing cheap Android crap like the Nexus 7.

IMPORTANT!: when people are asking my advice, I always recommend an Apple first if they don't want to see my ugly mug again for awhile. And I mean push it hard!

However, the trend here in Germany is that anyone carrying Apple stuff is a "penny foolish fanboy". The "fanboy" part I thoroughly admit to. Penny-Foolish I am not(!)

So... I let them know that it "very well could be" that they need to have me take a look at their "far less expensive but capable (crap)" more often. My minimum visit fee is €20, with the average of a clean wipe and reinstall about €95,00. BTW: these people are immune to that old price trick, since for example, 99.99 is no where CLOSE to 100.00. Anyway, wipe and reinstall is the "preferred and recommended" advise straight from Google's forums. Quite similar I might add to Microsoft's over the years. Why would silly Moi second guess Google???

Long story short: I get paid close to €200.00/year from people on Android devices. I make squat on iOS devices (set it and forget it).

So truthfully, I really should be a Google fan for them skimping and pimping their devices at cost and allowing me to make some "play dough" for my Apple addiction.

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Yeah I mentioned that several minutes before you posted. Thanks tho.

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Is this Jragosta same as the guy who is commenting here?

Just curious. 1embarassed.gif Dont mind. 

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Is this Jragosta same as the guy who is commenting here?
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Yes and he had excellent advice don't you agree? He oft-times appears to be knowledgeable and offer good suggestions.
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Yes and he had excellent advice don't you agree? He oft-times appears to be knowledgeable and offer good suggestions.

I really cant tell because you all guys have been here on this forums since a long time.

But, I am not.

So, I dont know the context and situation when and why he told that. 

But the statement sounds good. And having argument and being part of the argument is good.  1hmm.gif

 

For me, this fellow sounds better always 1rolleyes.gif

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Yeah, I just realized he must be referring to music creation and not listening. I'm no musician myself, but it doesn't look like you can't create music on an Android device. I personally can't speak for how well it does as I've never tried it nor even wanted too.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imageline.FLM
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.aemobile

It has nothing to do with whether there are apps to create music or not. Latency on Android makes it extremely difficult - if not impossible.

But given your admission that you don't know anything about technology (see my signature), it's not surprising that you don't know the difference.
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It has nothing to do with whether there are apps to create music or not. Latency on Android makes it extremely difficult - if not impossible.

But given your admission that you don't know anything about technology (see my signature), it's not surprising that you don't know the difference.
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It has nothing to do with whether there are apps to create music or not. Latency on Android makes it extremely difficult - if not impossible.

But given your admission that you don't know anything about technology (see my signature), it's not surprising that you don't know the difference.

So then you've actually tried some of the Android music apps for yourself, or rather you read someone's comment recently that said it was extremely difficult if not impossible to create music on any Android device. Those two music apps I linked seem to get good reviews. Curious, do you write music? I seem to remember you commenting once upon a time that you were a musician of sorts.

Edit: Were you attempting to be rude? I would hope not. I'd much rather see and take part in civil discussion and have no intention of replying in kind.
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Seems the new Nexus 7 got great reviews for mainly one reason: the retina like display. A secondary reason is the first generation was so bad it would be damn near impossible for the second gen not to be an improvement.

This is why Apple needs a retina mini this fall. Get a retina mini out there and nobody but a few rabid Fandroids will care about the Nexus 7 anymore. 1biggrin.gif
Retina mini after full size, so the mini doesn't canabalizes new iPad 5 again...for awhile
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Seems the new Nexus 7 got great reviews for mainly one reason: the retina like display. 1biggrin.gif

 

No — that and its very attractive price. If you weigh those against the iPad Mini's bigger (but lower res) screen, smoother operation, and the much superior iOS tablet app availability, you've probably got equal scores but for different reasons. Apple's build quality is better, but that of the Nexus 7 certainly isn't bad.

 

For owners who mostly use a tablet passively (web surf, email, read books, watch videos), the Nexus 7 is no bad choice. Once you want it to do more, the quality of the app experience comes to play a more important part, and the iPad looks more and more attractive.

 

Apple badly needs a retina iPad Mini, and that's obviously going to happen — soon, I hope. But since Google is selling the Nexus 7 at cost, any future retina iPad Mini is going to be sold at a significant premium over the Android product. Apple should be able to do just fine with that, especially once iOS 7 kicks in, but the competing Google tablet isn't going to just disappear. It's a perfectly viable tablet.

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Retina mini after full size, so the mini doesn't canabalizes new iPad 5 again...for awhile

Say what?

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There's no denying that the nexus 7's issues are real, but even apple hasn't been able to avoid problems in newly released products. For example:


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Amiga Syndrome: cheap hardware with notable features but a dearth of quality apps.
 

 

 

I have to disagree with the above statement. I'm a bit of an Amiga fan and the one thing I can say for sure is that those systems were neither cheap nor lacking in quality software. Some of the industry's best games and production apps (Cinema4D, Lightwave, Video Toaster etc) were introduced with the Amiga. I also find the comparison between the Amiga and Crapdroid rather unfortunate.

 

When the Commodore Amiga was released in 1985 it was hands down the best computer system on the planet. The OCS chipset was a multimedia powerhouse with capabilities unmatched by even the purpose built workstations. Software wise, the Amiga OS was the first to introduce preemptive multitasking which made all competing systems seem like a decade out of date, including the Mac.It is rumored that Steve Jobs was so taken by the amazing capabilities of the Amiga that he attempted to buy it off Commodore and use it as a basis for his NEXT platform.

 

A properly expanded Amiga 4000 is still considered a very capable multimedia production tool and many TV stations and Production Studios use the Video Toaster 4000 system even today!

 

The demise of the Amiga lies entirely on the awful business decisions of the Commodore leadership and certainly not its competition...

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There's no denying that the nexus 7's issues are real, but even apple hasn't been able to avoid problems in newly released products. For example:

You're right, no one is perfect but when it comes to Apple, the media turns the mole hill into a mountain and barely registers others.
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Its front face is ugly, the top black bar within the screen UI and the bottom black bar screws up the proportions, the side bezel is quite fat too. Not much attention to detail, I don't think they care about such things. Cheap, try to take market share from Apple, end. Not even a "be durable", if can't hold up for one year, that is really bad.

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Fandroids rarely use apps and never pay for them- only use their devices for texting, email and facebook. And it's a lot cheaper. It will do extremely well. 

 

MIni needs retina now- no excuse. It's not as if it's a new innovating feature at this point in time. The current mini is way overpriced.now- should be at least $100 less across the board but it should drop to that price level once retina is released. 

 
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You're right, no one is perfect but when it comes to Apple, the media turns the mole hill into a mountain and barely registers others.

Yet did those issues prevent Apple products from getting "stellar reviews"? The article claims that the nexus 7 is getting favorable treatment in the press despite users reporting various problems. Aren't apple products received similarly by the public?

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Or you could buy a 32GB ad-free Kindle Fire HD for $204.

Let's see, what does that extra $25 for the Google Doorstop 2.0 gain you?

- Faster CPU & GPU (to make those lags and jitters more glaring, apparently)
- 1080p screen (because 720p simply doesn't cut it on a 7" screen)
- GPS (*sometimes)
- Rear-facing camera (so you can embarrass yourself by taking pictures with your tablet)
- 16 GB less storage
- Worse battery life
- No hardware QA
- Months to fix critical OS bugs
- "Best in industry" customer support replaced by "laughable"
- Uncurated app store (since viruses and malware enrich the experience)

Oh yeah, I'm sure that Jeff Bezos is worried about this one.
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