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Purported 'iPhone 5S' back panel hints at redesigned home button component

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A new part claimed to be the rear panel for Apple's anticipated "iPhone 5S" shows an external design largely unchanged from the iPhone 5, but a number of internal design tweaks, including a modified home button that could potentially accommodate the rumored embedded fingerprint sensor.

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Alleged iPhone 5S rear panel and tweaked home button space, via by Nowhereelse.fr


In the latest component leak published on Wednesday by Nowhereelse.fr, changes made to the area around the home button are readily apparent when compared side-by-side with the iPhone 5 back panel. In particular, the metal spacer cushion that supports the home button features a new look.

The panel also shows tweaks to the space where the camera would be located, as well as different screw placement along the back of the device.

But the tweaked space for the home button is of particular interest, as Apple is rumored to include a fingerprint sensor in the component of its next-generation flagship iPhone. The feature is expected to be driven by technology from AuthenTec, a company Apple acquired for $356 million last year.

In order to fit the fingerprint sensor inside the home button, well-connected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities claims that the part will now be convex instead of concave, allowing for more space. Kuo also indicated that the home button will be made out of sapphire, because of its resistance to scratches.

References to a fingerprint scanner embedded within an iPhone home button was even discovered in Apple's pre-release beta of iOS 7. A folder found hidden in the test software refers to a "Biometric Kit," while another string of text describes a user touching the home button with their thumb as a status image appears on the device's screen.

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Alleged iPhone 5S rear panel and tweaked home button space, via by Nowhereelse.fr


As for the changes around the camera, they could hint at an improved LED flash component that Apple is expected to include in its next-generation handset, rumored to be dubbed the "iPhone 5S."

Unfortunately, the metal back component does not include the glass panels for the top and bottom of the device. A separate leak published earlier this week did show that part, revealing the pill-shaped space where Apple is expected to include a dual LED flash for superior photos in low-light scenarios.
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Honestly, I dont see any difference other than the blue background. What am I missing?

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Honestly, I dont see any difference other than the blue background. What am I missing?

Glasses? There are big red squares marking the differences.
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Why the blue background?  This can't be the 5C given the unibody aluminum frame.  Was it just a placeholder cutout by nowhereelse?

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Originally Posted by dugbug View Post
Why the blue background?

 

It's laying on something blue?


  This can't be the 5C given the unibody aluminum frame.  Was it just a placeholder cutout by nowhereelse?

 

It does specifically say 5S, after all… 1oyvey.gif

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Why the blue background?  This can't be the 5C given the unibody aluminum frame.  Was it just a placeholder cutout by nowhereelse?


Just click on "via by Nowhereelse.fr" and original pics will answer your questions.

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It's laying on something blue?

 

It does specifically say 5S, after all… 1oyvey.gif


All you have to do is reading my post so you can see the original pictures... ;) #TimeSaver  http://www.nowhereelse.fr/photos-coque-iphone-5s-87216/

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Just click on "via by Nowhereelse.fr" and original pics will answer your questions.


Nothing else to say... Thx Vlad1k ;)

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It's laying on something blue?

 

It does specifically say 5S, after all… 1oyvey.gif

 

Ah its clear on the nowhereelse pics its sitting on something blue.

 

calm down don't insult.

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Originally Posted by dugbug View Post

calm down don't insult.

 

Please explain which of those words was an insult. 1oyvey.gif

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Please explain which of those words was an insult. 1oyvey.gif


Your ridiculous emoticon.  The ARTICLE says 5S there is no official 5S stamp.  My question had to do with perhaps improper identification given a plastic blue background, but the original photos cleared it up.

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"New iPhone has screws in different places"

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Originally Posted by dugbug View Post
Your ridiculous emoticon.

 

Try again. Hint: you don't need to try again; there isn't one.


The ARTICLE says 5S there is no official 5S stamp.

 

Of course there's no official stamp. Note that the article also says zero about it being the 5C. Not sure why you would have assumed it was, then.

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Glasses? There are big red squares marking the differences.

I can see the big red squares, but not the differences in the home button area :) There might still be a fingerprint sensor, but these are the body frames of the iPhone and the little holes in the frame seem pretty much identical. I would hope and be really happy if there is a finger print sensing home button, as I'm in the line for 5S :) We will never know until Cook lets us know!

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I have to admit that I was hoping for an iPhone 5S redesign as I'm not too keen on the Black & Slate theme or the "tiled" back... We'll just have to wait and see I guess 1wink.gif

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Is it just me, or are there other people out there that is a bit skeptical about a convex home button? like a big round nipple sticking out of your phone? 
I also, was hoping for a redesign, or at least a one-color back instead of the two on the iphone 5. But all these are personal preferences.
Can anyone explain what's so special about a finger scanner? If i'm someone who doesn't find the need for my phone to be that secure, or even don't shop on my phone much, what can I get out of the differences in 5s?

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Is it just me, or are there other people out there that is a bit skeptical about a convex home button? like a big round nipple sticking out of your phone? 

I also, was hoping for a redesign, or at least a one-color back instead of the two on the iphone 5. But all these are personal preferences.

Can anyone explain what's so special about a finger scanner? If i'm someone who doesn't find the need for my phone to be that secure, or even don't shop on my phone much, what can I get out of the differences in 5s?

I have actual concerns about the rumored finger print scanner itself.

I do like the idea of added security, but how fast can a "home button finger print scanner" identify the proper user and unlock the screen?

I am hoping that there is some new breakthrough in this technology that allows for near instantaneous identification.

I'm worried that the time it takes for the phone to reconize the user and unlock the device may become so annoying that the feature would not be used and a passcode lock will remain for its speed.

Now before someone posts

"Seriously your crying ahout 2-3 seconds of your time? Your idiot if you can't wait a couple seconds to unlock your 600$ phone that carries all your personal information"

Let me just say, that I do understand that it's a great added feature, but yes, when waking your phone up 30-100 times a day, I worry about the time annoyance.

I'd still like to have the feature and use it when I leave my phone unattended or in a locker at the gym.

All I'd like to know is if anyone knows if the technology has improved with its ability to reconize and confirm the proper print?
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I have actual concerns about the rumored finger print scanner itself.

I do like the idea of added security, but how fast can a "home button finger print scanner" identify the proper user and unlock the screen?

I am hoping that there is some new breakthrough in this technology that allows for near instantaneous identification.

I'm worried that the time it takes for the phone to reconize the user and unlock the device may become so annoying that the feature would not be used and a passcode lock will remain for its speed.

Now before someone posts

"Seriously your crying ahout 2-3 seconds of your time? Your idiot if you can't wait a couple seconds to unlock your 600$ phone that carries all your personal information"

Let me just say, that I do understand that it's a great added feature, but yes, when waking your phone up 30-100 times a day, I worry about the time annoyance.

I'd still like to have the feature and use it when I leave my phone unattended or in a locker at the gym.

All I'd like to know is if anyone knows if the technology has improved with its ability to reconize and confirm the proper print?

Let's wait to see what, if anything, Apple does before criticizing.
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I have actual concerns about the rumored finger print scanner itself.

I do like the idea of added security, but how fast can a "home button finger print scanner" identify the proper user and unlock the screen?

I am hoping that there is some new breakthrough in this technology that allows for near instantaneous identification.

I'm worried that the time it takes for the phone to reconize the user and unlock the device may become so annoying that the feature would not be used and a passcode lock will remain for its speed.

Now before someone posts

"Seriously your crying ahout 2-3 seconds of your time? Your idiot if you can't wait a couple seconds to unlock your 600$ phone that carries all your personal information"

Let me just say, that I do understand that it's a great added feature, but yes, when waking your phone up 30-100 times a day, I worry about the time annoyance.

I'd still like to have the feature and use it when I leave my phone unattended or in a locker at the gym.

All I'd like to know is if anyone knows if the technology has improved with its ability to reconize and confirm the proper print?

 

2-3 seconds bothers you?

So can you type your password much faster than 2-3 seconds?

A fingerprint scanner will add security and convience if done correctly.  Something the competition severly lacks

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Apple acquired AuthenTec, the company with whom they had been closely developing new biometric technology for over a $350 Million, one of their largest acquisitions to date.  That price is not something AAPL would pay without seeing a long term financial/technological benefit.dddf That combined with a number of recent biometric patents they've secured recently suggest there is a lot of development on the fingerprint sensor front.  Based on a number of articles around, including several from AI, the sensor rumored to be integrated into the 5S should be a significant improvement over previous generations of technology. Let's hope part of those improvements include near instantaneous recognition.

 

At this point, its all based on speculation, but I personally believe every additional layer of security that can be applied to my mobile device without significant impact on usability is welcome.  I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but there is a lot of stuff on my phone I would hate to fall into a strangers hands. I've known people who've lost their phone, and then had their identity stolen shortly thereafter. If Apple DOES enter the mobile payment space with the new iPhone, then security becomes even more paramount. 

 

My contract is up for renewal with AT&T, and frankly I'm waiting to see the 5S before I renew. Apple's competitors, specifically Samsung, have stepped up their game tremendously over the past couple of years.  At the same time, I've been underwhelmed with the improvements in the last 2 generations of iphone, and need something more significant than a slick UI and incremental hardware upgrade bump to stick with the iPhone. This is Apple's last chance to prevent me to jumping ship. 

 

I don't say this lightly because I've held a long position in AAPL.
 

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... the pill-shaped space where Apple is expected to include a dual LED flash for superior photos in low-light scenarios.

 

The improved dual-LED flash that should be quite the awesome flashlight as well.

Apple will finally kill off those godawful flashlight apps with iOS 7.

Built-in flashlight feature in iOS 7's Control Center.  Finally.

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Your ridiculous emoticon.

Shaking your head (1oyvey.gif) is, in most Western cultures, a way of saying "no" or disagreeing. Is that ridiculous?

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"New iPhone has screws in different places"

Apple is screwed ..... differently. :)

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The improved dual-LED flash that should be quite the awesome flashlight as well.

Apple will finally kill off those godawful flashlight apps with iOS 7.

Built-in flashlight feature in iOS 7's Control Center.  Finally.

 

Dont know if you are being sarcastic, but I do like the idea of the built in flash light item (im in the dark alot :) ). But I can see(pun intended... get it) how others won't like it. That said, except for possibly the new nokia 1020, the iphone camera is probably still the best phone camera.
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I have actual concerns about the rumored finger print scanner itself.

I do like the idea of added security, but how fast can a "home button finger print scanner" identify the proper user and unlock the screen?

I am hoping that there is some new breakthrough in this technology that allows for near instantaneous identification.

I'm worried that the time it takes for the phone to reconize the user and unlock the device may become so annoying that the feature would not be used and a passcode lock will remain for its speed.

Now before someone posts

"Seriously your crying ahout 2-3 seconds of your time? Your idiot if you can't wait a couple seconds to unlock your 600$ phone that carries all your personal information"

Let me just say, that I do understand that it's a great added feature, but yes, when waking your phone up 30-100 times a day, I worry about the time annoyance.

I'd still like to have the feature and use it when I leave my phone unattended or in a locker at the gym.

All I'd like to know is if anyone knows if the technology has improved with its ability to reconize and confirm the proper print?

 

It should be super-duper fast, because rather than comparing your print to a huge library of prints looking for a match to an unknown subject, it only has to check a small library (perhaps even just one) looking for a match to the known user (presumably you).  I'm thinking milliseconds without any problem.

 

Thompson

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I also, was hoping for a redesign, or at least a one-color back instead of the two on the iphone 5.

 

What surprises me is that I can't get a black face with an aluminum back. That's the colour scheme for every other product in their lineup from iPad to iMac to MacBook Pro. Why not the iPhone?

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2-3 seconds bothers you?
So can you type your password much faster than 2-3 seconds?
A fingerprint scanner will add security and convience if done correctly.  Something the competition severly lacks

Haha

I actually explained this in my first post in which you quoted me.

Actually yes I can do a 4-8 digit code much faster than 2-3 seconds. Have you ever notice how fast it takes to enter the password to unlock your iPhone?

It literally takes me less than a second to get to the home screen.

Now if it took 2 to 3 seconds to unlock it via fingerprint ID....

It may not sound like a long time. But it is slightly annoying to put your finger on the button and count ......one – two – three – unlocked

But again I'd still like the feature there, I just hope it is faster than that.
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It should be super-duper fast, because rather than comparing your print to a huge library of prints looking for a match to an unknown subject, it only has to check a small library (perhaps even just one) looking for a match to the known user (presumably you).  I'm thinking milliseconds without any problem.

Thompson

Well
I hope so....that would be awesome!

Thanks for the explanation.

Truth be told, even the second it takes me to
Enter the 4 digit passcode is annoying to me. So if this could Actually activate that fast, I don't think I'd ever leave it unlocked.

It's not like my time is that valuable, it's just one of things you just want to activate. Lol

I guess I got used to the phone being unlocked. .

Hmmm....I wonder I'd you'd still need to slide to unlock?

If it reads your finger I would think it should
Just zoom to
Home screen.

How likely is it your finger is right on the button perfectly for unlocking?
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Shaking your head (1oyvey.gif) is, in most Western cultures, a way of saying "no" or disagreeing. Is that ridiculous?

Not that I want to throw my hat into this ring lol....but I always felt that this particular emoticon in question is more or less shaking its head in a Disapproving way as if saying..

"What a naive fool" or "not another idiot" ect.

Mainly because the eyes are looking up to the sky and that usually means that someone is annoyed by the situation or comment.

Now if TallestSkill say it wasn't meant to be rude than that should be the end of it, no harm no foul.

But, I will say that that emoticon....at least to
Me says more than "I disagree with you."

Maybe they should
Have one with the eyes looking forward with compassionate arched eyebrows and a neutral mouth shaking its head no. Lol
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Originally Posted by StephanJobs View Post
Not that I want to throw my hat into this ring lol....but I always felt that this particular emoticon in question is more or less shaking its head in a Disapproving way as if saying..

"What a naive fool" or "not another idiot" ect.

 

At most I use it for "oh, brother". Generally it's just a visual "no", and the upward eyes make it stronger.

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I'm surprised there isn't more speculation about what Apple is doing with fingerprint scanning beyond unlocking the iPhone. If not immediately, perhaps future iOS will include an API to make this utility available to developers for in app purchasing, etc. Perhaps iOS will be able to distinguish between fingers, thus making the home button an additional input device for specific purposes. Just saying ...

 

BTW, just want to chime in on the whole convex/concave discussion, even though this was raised and debated in a different thread. Blackberry devices have numerous convex protrusions which have not led to any issues. Just saying ...

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Is it just me, or are there other people out there that is a bit skeptical about a convex home button? like a big round nipple sticking out of your phone? 
I also, was hoping for a redesign, or at least a one-color back instead of the two on the iphone 5. But all these are personal preferences.
Can anyone explain what's so special about a finger scanner? If i'm someone who doesn't find the need for my phone to be that secure, or even don't shop on my phone much, what can I get out of the differences in 5s?

My guess, if you don't need the extra layer of security, then the 5c would be your best choice. They may goose up some graphic specs on the 5s, but if the 5c is like the current 5, then everything is fast enough and lag free as it is. 

 

I'm thinking Apple will keep the new 5s at the old price and may dress up the product in some subtle ways to appeal to user with a BMW, Rolex, and a trophy wife, making the product appeal to the prestige market. The 5c will allow Apple to lower the price with out affecting their cachet status identification. The new iOS7 should make the iPhone a device you can just carry on a two-way conversation with a lot more.

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How likely is it your finger is right on the button perfectly for unlocking?

 

The article writer, as well as a lot of the posters use "fingerprint" when in fact it is reading other info from your finger, not the print of loops and whorls. 

 

By making the button convex the softer center of the thumb should find its right place naturally. The word, "scanner" is also a misleading term often used as the reader does not do a moving scan of the biometric data, but rather reads the date in one instant. There are a lot of possibilities with this biometric reader; for example different fingers to trigger different iPhone responses...

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The improved dual-LED flash that should be quite the awesome flashlight as well.

Apple will finally kill off those godawful flashlight apps with iOS 7.

Built-in flashlight feature in iOS 7's Control Center.  Finally.

 

The new iOS7 will feature a white background to the home screen, so you should get a reasonably bright light just from unlocking the iPhone.

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The article writer, as well as a lot of the posters use "fingerprint" when in fact it is reading other info from your finger, not the print of loops and whorls. 

By making the button convex the softer center of the thumb should find its right place naturally. The word, "scanner" is also a misleading term often used as the reader does not do a moving scan of the biometric data, but rather reads the date in one instant. There are a lot of possibilities with this biometric reader; for example different fingers to trigger different iPhone responses...

Nice! Awesome thoughts. Now If only I had an upgrade eligible lol

Would be cool if your middle finger would activate "do not disturb. "
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The article writer, as well as a lot of the posters use "fingerprint" when in fact it is reading other info from your finger, not the print of loops and whorls. 

 

By making the button convex the softer center of the thumb should find its right place naturally. The word, "scanner" is also a misleading term often used as the reader does not do a moving scan of the biometric data, but rather reads the date in one instant. There are a lot of possibilities with this biometric reader; for example different fingers to trigger different iPhone responses...

Interesting. But scanning does not have to require motion. 

 

I agree (and have already suggested above) that this "thing" might be used as an input device.

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My guess, if you don't need the extra layer of security, then the 5c would be your best choice. They may goose up some graphic specs on the 5s, but if the 5c is like the current 5, then everything is fast enough and lag free as it is. 

 

I honestly wouldn't buy the 5c if it's like the current 5. Or else, I would've gotten a 5 already. I'd hate for the next iOS to come out and I lose some big features that I waited a year or two for. I'm currently using a 4, it doesn't make sense for me to get a 5C if the cost isn't that big of a problem. "As it is" doesn't quite do it. 
 

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There are a lot of possibilities with this biometric reader; for example different fingers to trigger different iPhone responses...

 

Oh shit. That sounds amazing! Nice thoughts.


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