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Apple is clearing a landing path for its new "spaceship" Campus 2 in Cupertino, Calif. The first work has begun, involving a salvage and destroy operation targeting sprawling structures on the former Hewlett Packard Pruneridge Campus.

Apple Campus 2


Apple acquired the campus from HP in 2010, which fortunately happened to be adjacent to other land the company had been secretly buying up, one parcel at a time, in order to assemble a contiguous lot large enough to support a second campus.

The acquired HP plot was so large that it allowed Apple to consolidate its Campus 2 plans north of the freeway; Apple owns land on both sides of the six lane 280 interstate highway.

Campus 2


The Campus 2 plot is also quite close to Apple's existing Infinite Loop headquarters, located about one mile west at the next freeway interchange.

1 Infinite Loop Apple HQ Flyover


While Apple occupies a series of other buildings on land adjacent to the HP Pruneridge complex, the nine large HP buildings do not appear to have ever been occupied by Apple employees. Among them are the N42-N45 buildings above (seen looking west from Tantau Avenue), which once served as HP's NonStop Advanced Technology Center.

Apple Campus 2


The technology has now stopped. Scrap piles of steel studs sit below the busted out windows they exited the building from as the interiors of the buildings are stripped of recyclables. The back west side of the same building (below) has an identical pile, indicating entire floors have been gutted.

Apple Campus 2


Most of the HP land is covered by sprawling parking lots, like this one (below) on the north side of the complex as viewed from Homestead Road.

Apple Campus 2


Heavier construction is occurring on the far west end of the HP lots (below), where trucks are digging up chunks of concrete.

Apple Campus 2


The Executive Briefing Center building, facing the south side of the complex along Pruneridge, has 2x4s sticking out its upper windows.

Apple Campus 2


Apple does occupy a series of existing buildings on surrounding land, including four buildings on Valco Parkway, eight along Tantau, and portions of a circle of five buildings just south of HP on Ridgeview Court. Some of the buildings remain vacant, including a shuttered former credit union on the corner of Tantau and Pruneridge.

spaceship campus


Nearly all of the buildings are slated for destruction, but the HP complex (targeted in the center of the ring of the new Apple Campus 2 "spaceship" building) will likely be the first to go.

"We plan to bulldoze all the buildings on the new site," Apple's chief executive Tim Cook said in February. The company will then "build one 2.8 million square foot building that will be the most collaborative work environment."

He added, "I project that we will move in in 2016."

Apple Campus 2


Other surrounding, currently occupied buildings will apparently continue to be used until a second stage of construction begins along Tantau.

Appetite for expansion



In 2006, Steve Jobs addressed the Cupertino city council, saying that Apple's employees were spread around "thirty other buildings now and they keep getting further and further away from the campus." He added, "We've rented every scrap of building we could find in Cupertino."

Jobs revealed at the time that Apple had quietly bought up nine separate nearby parcels of land to make up a new 50 acre campus, and intended to build a new complex capable of housing 3,000 to 3,500 employees.

In 2010, the company lucked out when HP decided to sell the Pruneridge Campus, providing Apple with a combined 148 acre plot capable of accommodating a huge new campus.

Toward the end of that year, Apple's head of Public Relations Steve Dowling said, "we now occupy 57 buildings in Cupertino and our campus is bursting at the seams. These offices will give us more space for our employees as we continue to grow."

Apple Campus


Earlier this year, Cook said the Campus 2 site currently has nearly 2.7 million square feet of office space spread around it, and that 80 percent of the land is covered by parking lots.

Apple plans to bulldoze the existing buildings and construct a primary, four-story circular building with roughly three times the size of its current main campus on Infinite Loop. After the project is finished, paved parking will cover only 20 percent of the land, thanks to underground parking and a separate parking structure.

Apple Campus


In addition, Cook said that the company has plans to expand its existing shuttle bus service to enable around 30 percent of the roughly 12,000 employees working at the new site to get to work without driving at all. This reduction in required parking will contribute toward Apple's plans to replace the existing vast areas of asphalt with trees and green open space, including orchards of apricots that pay homage to the original agricultural use of land.
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My favorite part of the article is in the title "... GUTS the remains of HP." 

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See that little "notch" in the lower left corner of the new, second campus? That's where I live. It's kinda neat to watch all this going on.
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Yes, the first sentence is garbled nonsense.  And I'm also trying to figure out what this passage means:

 

 

Technology stopped?  Huh?  Scrap piles... exited the building? What?

The technology stopping appears to be referencing this sentence from above (and an attempt at humor):

 

 

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Among them are the N42-N45 buildings above (seen looking west from Tantau Avenue), which once served as HP's NonStop Advanced Technology Center.
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See that little "notch" in the lower left corner of the new, second campus? That's where I live. It's kinda neat to watch all this going on.

What luck. Is there a webcam in your future?
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The new building is not a space ship, it's a GIANT Mac Pro.

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Aluminum studs? lol

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When I go there, I'm gonna go to the caf & order a piece of warm Dutch apple crumb pie
or a slab of fresh-baked apfelstrüdel [end piece] with a measure of ice cold milk!

And I'll tell ya this.
Apple isn't building this Pentagon+-sized brand-spanking new SOTA HQ based solely alone on iPhone & iPad updates.
Something H-U-G-E & game-/world-/life-changing is in the works & it ain't an Apple TV set ....
Edited by iPadCary - 8/16/13 at 6:23am
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Aluminum studs? lol

Yes galvanized steel studs. Article was aimed at sharing pics with you all, but apparently it's just the typos in the filler text that anyone noticed.
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The technology stopping appears to be referencing this sentence from above (and an attempt at humor):

 

 

 

Well thank you. I spent a while looking at the photo inserted between the "NonStop ATC" comment and the followup joke, and lost track of the flow. I guess you could say my mind was not as "unfettered" as yours.  ;)   It's actually a pretty good pun, now that you've explained it.  I retract my complaint. 

 

ps to "Corrections": Actually, I did enjoy the photos. Very noticeable.

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Maybe I can't remember from past articles, but...Does anyone know if this "Campus 2" will be a replacement for the original campus or just a 2nd Campus?

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Originally Posted by rob53 View Post
All of a sudden all people can comment on is grammar.

 

Well, it IS supposed to be journalism.


 Guess you don't anything to contribute like the fact the number of Apple employees just keeps growing!

 

But… that can't be! Apple is doomed, as we all know, so they can't possibly be giving people JOBS.

 

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Maybe I can't remember from past articles, but...Does anyone know if this "Campus 2" will be a replacement for the original campus or just a 2nd Campus?

 

They can't afford to get rid of Infinite Loop. They'll be nearly filling both campuses once the new one is built; they're building it just so they don't have to keep renting dozens of buildings around the city.

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Aluminum studs? lol

Yes galvanized steel studs. Article was aimed at sharing pics with you all, but apparently it's just the typos in the filler text that anyone noticed.

Sorry, with an equivalent to a Ph.D in Construction Technology and I get a bit fussy about terminology sometimes. Thanks for the photos.

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Well thank you. I spent a while looking at the photo inserted between the "NonStop ATC" comment and the followup joke, and lost track of the flow. I guess you could say my mind was not as "unfettered" as yours.  ;)   It's actually a pretty good pun, now that you've explained it.  I retract my complaint. 

 

ps to "Corrections": Actually, I did enjoy the photos. Very noticeable.

My mind isn't as unfettered as I'd like (but it's a good book) :)

 

I like the photos as well, thank you Kasper's Automated Slave! I wonder if they'll be trying to save the existing trees? It would be a good bit of effort, but some of them look quite sizable and "old." Always nice to save living things if possible.

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Quote: "Heavier construction is occurring on the far west end of the HP lots (below), where trucks are digging up chunks of concrete."

I thought trucks just hauled away debris dug up by other machines? :P

To be fair, they are robots in disguise.

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It will be a second, additional campus.

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The headline should say: Apple Campus 2 guts the remains of HP as announcer cries "FINISH HIM!!!"

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When I go there, I'm gonna go to the caf & order a piece of warm Dutch apple crumb pie
or a slab of warm, fresh-baked apfelstrüdel [end piece] with a measure of ice cold milk!

And I'll tell ya this.
Apple isn't building this Pentagon+-sized brand-spanking new SOTA HQ based solely alone on iPhone & iPad updates.
Something H-U-G-E & game-/world-/life-changing is in the works & it ain't an Apple TV set ....

I have to agree. This is some kind of statement about their plans for the future.
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The headline should say: Apple Campus 2 guts the remains of HP as announcer cries "FINISH HIM!!!"

 

The original headline was something like "Windows getting demolished as Apple eviscerates the remains of HP" but then got toned down so as not to be confusing.

 

And yes, the plans call for major trees to be saved for the site or to be moved elsewhere. There's even boxes around several of the trees on site now. 

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I wonder if they'll be trying to save the existing trees? It would be a good bit of effort, but some of them look quite sizable and "old." Always nice to save living things if possible.

I was thinking the same thing!  As you say, it's nice to save old living things!

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Apple isn't building this Pentagon+-sized brand-spanking new SOTA HQ based solely alone on iPhone & iPad updates.

 

Um... not quite "Pentagon+ sized".

 

Main site: 2.82 M sq.ft.

Tantau phase: 0.60 M sq.ft.

TOTAL = 3.42 M sq.ft.

 

DOD Pentagon: 6.5 M sq.ft.

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Yes galvanized steel studs. Article was aimed at sharing pics with you all, but apparently it's just the typos in the filler text that anyone noticed.

Welcome to the internet.

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Um... not quite "Pentagon+ sized".

 

Main site: 2.82 M sq.ft.

Tantau phase: 0.60 M sq.ft.

TOTAL = 3.42 M sq.ft.

 

DOD Pentagon: 6.5 M sq.ft.

Using other metrics, such as diameter, the Apple building is a smidge larger than the Pentagon, so it is, I'd suggest Pentagon sized.... though not in total floor area that's true.

http://obamapacman.com/2011/06/apple-cupertino-mothership-building-vs-pentagon-size-comparison/

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Using other metrics, such as diameter, the Apple building is a smidge larger than the Pentagon, so it is, I'd suggest Pentagon sized.... though not in total floor area that's true.

http://obamapacman.com/2011/06/apple-cupertino-mothership-building-vs-pentagon-size-comparison/

 

Good point!  Apple could have put 7-foot high ceilings, and crammed twice The Pentagon floorspace in if they wanted to.

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Good point!  Apple could have put 7-foot high ceilings, and crammed twice The Pentagon floorspace in if they wanted to.

Well the other advantage the Pentagon has are the additional rings that are missing from the Apple building as shown.

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Why is this even happening? Why are they doing this? Apple will be out of business before they break ground for any new building. Ask any analyst or AI troll. Ask Constable Odo for god's sake.

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Why is this even happening? Why are they doing this? Apple will be out of business before they break ground for any new building. Ask any analyst or AI troll. Ask Constable Odo for god's sake.

It's actually a secret NSA project.

 

Shhhhhhh.

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while apple will increase the "greenery" on the apple campus, it will be sad when they cut the trees down... or will they be using on e of those Gigantic tree re-planting trucks that the tree-growing outfits use?...
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The original headline was something like "Windows getting demolished as Apple eviscerates the remains of HP" but then got toned down so as not to be confusing.

And yes, the plans call for major trees to be saved for the site or to be moved elsewhere. There's even boxes around several of the trees on site now. 

ah, why did they not keep that title!!... an amazing headline!.
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Why is this even happening? Why are they doing this? Apple will be out of business before they break ground for any new building. Ask any analyst or AI troll. Ask Constable Odo for god's sake.

Well, it is kinda interesting how many American corporations build grand new headquarters buildings just as they start to fall. Sears, Union Carbide, Merck, Enron, New York Times, just to name a few. Seems like a symptom of management taking its eye off the ball.

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Well, it is kinda interesting how many American corporations build grand new headquarters buildings just as they start to fall. Sears, Union Carbide, Merck, Enron, New York Times, just to name a few. Seems like a symptom of management taking its eye off the ball.

Were any of those companies growing exponentially and chronically running out of office space for a decade before building their new HQ? Or were they just vanity projects.
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Were any of those companies growing exponentially and chronically running out of office space for a decade before building their new HQ? Or were they just vanity projects.

Enron was growing like crazy. Merck was out of space at the former HQ in Rahway, NJ. Not sure about the others, although I would bet that Union Carbide was a combination of consolidation and expansion much like Apple. Don't know about Sears or NYT.

But my point which you missed (and I may not have made myself clear) is not about the added/needed space which I don't deny, but the obsession with a grand, new, very expensive, visionary, signature Headquarters building by a world-famous architect. And Steve was obsessed, or at least very passionate, judging by the video of the presentation to the city council.

Perfectly adequate growth space can almost always be rented nearby - for that matter the existing HP buildings have (had i guess) lots of space. But, AH!, a Visionary Headquarters! That comes along only once in the life of a corporation, often (unfortunately) when the corporation is passing it's peak.

I am not saying Apple is past it's peak - I certainly hope not. But I don't like this direction.

The roots of innovation at Apple (and at many other tech companies) are in a garage, not in a billion dollar monument to ego. Architecture has a profound impact on culture, and pride goeth....straight to hell.

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Enron was growing like crazy. Merck was out of space at the former HQ in Rahway, NJ. Not sure about the others, although I would bet that Union Carbide was a combination of consolidation and expansion much like Apple. Don't know about Sears or NYT.

But my point which you missed (and I may not have made myself clear) is not about the added/needed space which I don't deny, but the obsession with a grand, new, very expensive, visionary, signature Headquarters building by a world-famous architect. And Steve was obsessed, or at least very passionate, judging by the video of the presentation to the city council.

Perfectly adequate growth space can almost always be rented nearby - for that matter the existing HP buildings have (had i guess) lots of space. But, AH!, a Visionary Headquarters! That comes along only once in the life of a corporation, often (unfortunately) when the corporation is passing it's peak.

I am not saying Apple is past it's peak - I certainly hope not. But I don't like this direction.

The roots of innovation at Apple (and at many other tech companies) are in a garage, not in a billion dollar monument to ego. Architecture has a profound impact on culture, and pride goeth....straight to hell.

Jon

You don't like this direction. Cf. Enron, Union Carbide (see Bhopal), the NY Times at the end of the age of print, etc. Do you maybe see a tiny bit of difference between the raison d'etre of Apple and these other companies?

Apple is a founding company of a technology revolution that's on the ascendency to rival the print revolution or even the industrial revolution, and you want to compare their building plans to those of dying industries. Apple is at the point that Karl Benz was in 1910, or AT&T was around1880.

As for the 'obsessive ego statement,' I'm pretty sure that Steve Jobs was thinking of the level of coöperative visioneering that the building is going to produce in the staff, if it works, like with his Pixar experiment. That it will be an ethereal place to work in is part of the reason. Circularity, torusness, is another: it will be socially refractory, unlike those 'perfectly adequate expansion spaces' they are tearing down—the straight hallways, cubicles, square rooms, the nightmare antivisionary geometry that Steve's countercultural education made it impossible for him to get behind if his company is going to open a new headquarters.
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Good of you to mention Pixars Emeryville Studio Flaneur, that's relevant so I'll just post a picture of it
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The new building is not a space ship, it's a GIANT Mac Pro.

What would be the odds of that new spaceship was really built as a spaceship. A building that is flight ready instead of being fixed to the floor forever
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Well, it is kinda interesting how many American corporations build grand new headquarters buildings just as they start to fall ....

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@minicapt, I suppose it's possible for Business Insider or even Jay Yarow to be right once in a while, so the fact that they don't mention Apple's HQ plans is in their favor.

Or maybe they do mention Apple, but the site is unreadable, and it reliably crashes my iPad 1. It's a mess, and I had to stop.
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