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Any user who logs in to iCloud.com will find browser-based beta versions of Pages, Numbers and Keynote ??Apple's iWork suite ? are now available to test.

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Apple has been gradually rolling out iWork availability, first to developers and then to some select users. But now, as of Friday, any user with an Apple ID who logs into the iCloud.com website should have access to Pages, Numbers and Keynote.

The iWork apps join Mail, Contacts, Calendar, Notes, Reminders, and Find My iPhone as free cloud-based offerings from Apple. All three iWork apps are clearly labeled as "beta" with a yellow banner in the icons' upper left corners.

The service was first announced at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference in June, and works with Safari, Chrome and Internet Explorer. It allows users to quickly access, edit and save their documents from the Internet.

Not yet available to all users is the new look for iCloud.com in line with iOS 7, matching the redesigned icons that are found in beta versions of Apple's iPhone and iPad software. iOS 7 is expected to launch to the public next month, but no timeframe for the new iCloud.com site has been given.
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Free iWork on the app store next possibly?

Either way the wide release announcement this early is exciting.

Of course iWork in the Cloud doesn't bring much to the table that Goggle Docs doesn't already have but it does seem like a far better option than Office 365 subscription service.
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Looks pretty sexy. Cant still get over the fact, that this is an HTML 5 web app. The web's come a long way 1smile.gif
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Looks pretty sexy. Cant still get over the fact, that this is an HTML 5 web app. The web's come a long way 1smile.gif

It's bloody amazing! But I'm still confused as to what the pricing strategy is gonna be come the autumn...Rosner announced new versions for both OSX and iOS, but would they really make them free?

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@Ombra2105 :

 

Well I think the web version would continue to remain free. It has always been that way.

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Why public release is still in BETA? Like siri? 

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Free iWork on the app store next possibly?

Either way the wide release announcement this early is exciting.

Of course iWork in the Cloud doesn't bring much to the table that Goggle Docs doesn't already have but it does seem like a far better option than Office 365 subscription service.
Well it's an option for people who prefer not to use Google stuff if they don't have to. 1wink.gif
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Nice.  Almost unusable from here though; all of Apple's web apps are so damn slow, whatever browser I use, whether I'm at home, work, or other.  Wish they'd sort that out, it's been the same story through dot Mac, MobileMe, and now iCloud; great aesthetic, good functionality, lousy performance.

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Nice.  Almost unusable from here though; all of Apple's web apps are so damn slow, whatever browser I use, whether I'm at home, work, or other.  Wish they'd sort that out, it's been the same story through dot Mac, MobileMe, and now iCloud; great aesthetic, good functionality, lousy performance.

 

I never felt that about iCloud.. Thought it was snapy fast. Dont know what your talking about.. What in ur opinion in the application is slow ?

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The old iCloud vs the new one..

The new one looks a lot more clean and fresh.

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So much for being special.....1frown.gif

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The old iCloud vs the new one..
The new one looks a lot more clean and fresh.


Yes it does just as iOS 7 will look far brighter cleaner and fresher than iOS 6.

It's a new day at the Infinite Loop and I'm kinda digging the new fresh look Apple has now. Far different from Google and Microsoft products even though both have flat looks and even transparency effects.

Something about Apples new color pallete truly stands out from the competition and is still distinctly Apple.
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Yes it does just as iOS 7 will look far brighter cleaner and fresher than iOS 6.

It's a new day at the Infinite Loop and I'm kinda digging the new fresh look Apple has now. Far different from Google and Microsoft products even though both have flat looks and even transparency effects.

Something about Apples new color pallete truly stands out from the competition and is still distinctly Apple.

 

Even the Transparency effect that Apple's pulled out's kinda different, in the sense it blur's everything behind it with some color tone masking. Genius designers!

 

The rest of them think about transparency as just dropping opacity by a percentage.

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Well it's an option for people who prefer not to use Google stuff if they don't have to. 1wink.gif

Yes and this will be far more convenient and possibly more user friendly if the iOS and Mac versions are free downloads as well.

But I still find it funny that when this was being unveiled at WWDC the guy talking it up was acting like Doc editing in the cloud was revolutionary. Maybe he didnt know that Microsoft and Google have been doing it for years. Even so I think iWork in the cloud is nice and will suit most people's needs.
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It's still pretty beta though.  No changes since the last time I used it.  Filed about a half dozen bug reports and a similar amount of missing feature notifications.  

It already works a lot smoother than Google docs though, albeit terrible slowly.  

 

I sure hope the rumours of "free" are not true.  The whole iWork suite is already kind of crappy in many ways on both platforms.  I'd rather pay for it and see it evolve into something more professional and complete than see it languish in the free bin as just another "good enough" Apple placeholder product. 


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1) What I don't understand is why they rely on Google Maps in the FMI section; if it's beta why not use beta software from 10.9 as well? Same applies to Aperture, possibly likely also in iPhoto.

2) I find it easier to use the first 5 apps in a Safari window than having 5 separate apps open. This can't possibly mean I long for the days of Outlook, can it ¿
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I never felt that about iCloud.. Thought it was snapy fast. Dont know what your talking about.. What in ur opinion in the application is slow ?

iCloud has been hit or miss for me honestly. But most of my problems come when I'm trying to access iCloud.com from a PC. Not an ideal environment obviously but icloud is advertised to work on PCs as well so that as a real issue.
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Well it's an option for people who prefer not to use Google stuff if they don't have to. 1wink.gif

 

I think the point is more to increase the portability of Apple documents.  If even one person at your office has iCloud then getting a Pages document in the mail is no longer a problem.  You no longer have to purchase Apple's programs to work with iWork documents. 

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Why public release is still in BETA? Like siri? 

 

Cause it's still buggy and incomplete? Like Siri?

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It's still pretty beta though.  No changes since the last time I used it.  Filed about a half dozen bug reports and a similar amount of missing feature notifications.  

It already works a lot smoother than Google docs though, albeit terrible slowly.  

 

I sure hope the rumours of "free" are not true.  The sole iWork suite is already kind of crappy in many ways on both platforms.  I'd rather pay for it and see it evolve into something more professional and complete than see it languish in the free bin as just another "good enough" Apple placeholder product. 

 

Problem with making iWorks on iCloud a charged application is the competition's giving away there Web based suites for free. Kind of beats the purpose of charging for it, coz people have free alternatives out there, why would anyone pay for it ?

 

This isn't the Walled Garden, its the Web we are talking about :)

 

In my opinion Apple can use there new iCloud as a way to give non Apple users a feel of what iOS is like and attract them over to iOS.

Its gotta stay free for that.

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I am still with the old one.

… And yes! The iWork suite apps. are slow.

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I sure hope the rumours of "free" are not true.  The sole iWork suite is already kind of crappy in many ways on both platforms.  I'd rather pay for it and see it evolve into something more professional and complete than see it languish in the free bin as just another "good enough" Apple placeholder product. 

That's one way to look at the idea of a "free" iWork but it seems to me that Apple has put more time and investment in their freeware than in a lot of their paid applications.

So even if iWork were made free I don't think it would be forgotten in a free bin and never improved. Maybe if it were free that would drive Apple to refine it more into the consumer suite they've set out for it to be.

If Apple can make iWork the best free office suite available then that could drive additional hardware sales for Macs from iOS users that enjoy using iWork on their iDevices and iCloud.com. I think the potential halo effect in sales would diminish the $30 Apple currently gets from the suite.

But what do I know Pages is still the #1 selling productivity app I believe, even in its current state.
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You no longer have to purchase Apple's programs to work with iWork documents.

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Cause it's still buggy and incomplete? Like Siri?

Like Maps, you mean ¿
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I am still with the old one.
… And yes! The iWork suite apps. are slow.

Used to be fast, but now that they just granted access for the rest I presume their servers are getting hammered. See what it does after the weekend.
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Like Maps, you mean ¿
Used to be fast, but now that they just granted access for the rest I presume their servers are getting hammered. See what it does after the weekend.


Maps as an app is solid. Outstanding really. The data has issues. 
 

And no, not beta like siri.  This is not a released product, it is an open beta.  Siri was released in beta state.

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post #25 of 72
Two things that have constant problems Anything Cloud related + Apple's inability to provide anything stable online = ticking timebomb
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"Apple's iWork for iCloud.com beta now available to all users"

 

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Well it's an option for people who prefer not to use Google stuff if they don't have to. 1wink.gif

 

Or in my case, it is actually accessible at work, unlike Google Docs, which is blocked due to it being tied to Drive.

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I never felt that about iCloud.. Thought it was snapy fast. Dont know what your talking about.. What in ur opinion in the application is slow ?

Pretty much everything, frankly.

 

It even takes a good few seconds to bring up the login dialogue.  Click on Mail and enjoy a spinning progress wheel, followed by an unnecessary animation; and usually at least 5 seconds before you actually see any data, sometimes a lot more.  Then try and search.  And wait.... Then go into the Archive and wait even longer...  And then wait some more...

 

Compare this with Google's web apps and you're talking about a totally different experience, Google is quick as a spring buck.  Obv Apple have them nailed on interface design, but that's only so much good when you're stuck on a progress wheel.

 

 

I find iCloud to be fine when using Mail.app, Notes.app, Reminders.app, etc on the Mac or iOS because all of the processing is done on-device, but the web client is and always has been terribly slow at accessing libraries and loading up my stuff.  These iWork apps are even more complicated than Mail and are taking ages to do anything from where I'm currently sitting.

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But what do I know Pages is still the #1 selling productivity app I believe, even in its current state.

Really? I never saw that claim before.
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post #30 of 72
Yawn.

I'll wait to get excited about this until the most basic of Apple's networked offerings come up to par.

Starting with Mail.....
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Maps as an app is solid. Outstanding really. The data has issues. 

 
And no, not beta like siri.  This is not a released product, it is an open beta.  Siri was released in beta state.

I know, and I agree. I just didn't comprehend the bitching, that so many did when Maps came out.
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Why public release is still in BETA? Like siri? 

Because it is still being tested to what problems they will have before they do the final rollout.  It's actually a good idea to do that.  So, when there are problems, people will know that it's still in Beta.  I guess they haven't finalized all of the feature set/look.

 

 

What are you complaining about?  It's free to try out.

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Really? I never saw that claim before.

I was talking about on Apple's App Stores, not in the greater market.

 

It looks like as of this post though it is #2 on the Mac App Store (behind Mountain Lion) and #8 on the iOS App Store.

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I was talking about on Apple's App Stores, not in the greater market.

It looks like as of this post though it is #2 on the Mac App Store (behind Mountain Lion) and #8 on the iOS App Store.

Yeah, I figured you meant Apple's own app stores, but still had never seen Pages as number one even there. Perhaps it was on the Mac App Store at some point.
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Anyone seen any news on the offline versions of these Apps. Web based is great and all, but I want an update to the ridiculously outdated iWork 09 apps

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Problem with making iWorks on iCloud a charged application is the competition's giving away there Web based suites for free. Kind of beats the purpose of charging for it, coz people have free alternatives out there, why would anyone pay for it ?

 

This isn't the Walled Garden, its the Web we are talking about :)

 

In my opinion Apple can use there new iCloud as a way to give non Apple users a feel of what iOS is like and attract them over to iOS.

Its gotta stay free for that.

 

No, I think it makes sense for the web one to be free.  

 

What I meant was that everyone is going on about "does this mean the iOS and OSX ones will be free too?"  Considering the state the apps are in now, I think this would be a huge mistake.  Apple has a history of making "good enough" stopgap software so they can sell laptops and iWork is one of those products.  All the versions are buggy and missing some fairly standard features.  They are minimal at best. 

 

I'd rather they keep people paying for the iOS and OSX apps so that some actual resources might be devoted to them instead of letting them languish in their "almost done" state.  I'd rather the iWork suite become a real alternative to Office.  That Pages become something that an actual writer would want to use, and Numbers become something that an actual financial expert might want to use.  

 

It's like Apple has kind of given up on iWork for the last few years and instead of just shovelling what they have now out the door for free, I'd like to see it get a lot better instead.  The free web version can just be the bait on the end of the stick. 

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Pretty much everything, frankly.

 

It even takes a good few seconds to bring up the login dialogue.  Click on Mail and enjoy a spinning progress wheel, followed by an unnecessary animation; and usually at least 5 seconds before you actually see any data, sometimes a lot more.  Then try and search.  And wait.... Then go into the Archive and wait even longer...  And then wait some more...

 

Compare this with Google's web apps and you're talking about a totally different experience, Google is quick as a spring buck.  Obv Apple have them nailed on interface design, but that's only so much good when you're stuck on a progress wheel.

 

 

I find iCloud to be fine when using Mail.app, Notes.app, Reminders.app, etc on the Mac or iOS because all of the processing is done on-device, but the web client is and always has been terribly slow at accessing libraries and loading up my stuff.  These iWork apps are even more complicated than Mail and are taking ages to do anything from where I'm currently sitting.

 

Also in the new Pages beta, if you scroll down even a single page, there is a one second pause before it can display the content.  When you work with bigger documents, the wait increases dramatically.  On a small 100 page document, you can scroll the view down a page and a half and you will generally wait two or three seconds for the content to appear.  It's almost unusable at the moment. 

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Free iWork on the app store next possibly?

 

Why would that make any sense?

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post #39 of 72
Its slow compared to a native app on my Macbook Pro and I cannot print a document directly from the cloud app..
No cloud apps for me.
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I was talking about on Apple's App Stores, not in the greater market.

 

It looks like as of this post though it is #2 on the Mac App Store (behind Mountain Lion) and #8 on the iOS App Store.

you know why that is right?  MS Office for Mac is not available for purchase on the Mac App Store.

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