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Prospective tablet buyers holding out for Apple's next generation of iPads will have to wait, as the company is reportedly not planning to unveil its 2013 iPad lineup at an anticipated Sept. 10 event.

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The well-connected Jim Dalrymple of The Loop revealed on Wednesday that there will be "no iPads" at Apple's upcoming event. The keynote is expected to feature Apple's next-generation iPhones, rumored to be called the "iPhone 5S" and "iPhone 5C."

Dalrymple's comments were provided in response to an earlier media report that had suggested iPads could be introduced at Apple's Sept. 10 media event. However, Apple has historically kept its iPhone and iPad announcements separate.

Last year, the iPhone 5 was unveiled at a media event in September, while the iPad mini and fourth-generation iPad were introduced to the public in October. It's likely that Apple will follow a similar schedule this year, and introduce a second-generation iPad mini and redesigned fifth-generation iPad in October, ahead of the holiday shopping season.Jim Dalrymple's comments assure that there won't be iPads at Apple's iPhone-centric Sept. 10 event, but new MacBook Pros with Haswell processors remain a possibility.

The new fifth-generation iPad is expected to feature many of the same design elements as the current iPad mini, including smaller size bezels, a thinner body, and lighter weight. Parts claimed to be for the "iPad 5" have appeared regularly throughout 2013.

As for the iPad mini, it's expected that Apple's second-generation 7.9-inch tablet will see an upgraded high-resolution Retina display. There has also been speculation by well-connected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities that Apple could additionally offer a low-cost iPad mini, potentially without a Retina display, to allow the company to hit an even lower price point than the current $329 entry price.

While Dalrymple's comments assure that there won't be any iPads at Apple's Sept. 10 event, the possibility of new Macs being unveiled at the keynote remains. Most of Apple's Mac lineup, including the MacBook Pro and iMac, are due for upgrades to Intel's latest-generation Haswell processors.

The September event is also expected to announce the release date for iOS 7, Apple's next-generation mobile operating system currently available in beta to developers. If prior release schedules hold again for 2013, iOS 7 will likely become available to the public about a week after the event, while Apple's next-generation iPhones will be in the hands of customers on Friday, Sept. 20.
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Surely "fifth-generation iPad and redesigned second-generation iPad mini".
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Jim's 'yep/nope' posts are invaluable in heading off the rumor trains that always lead to unfounded disappointment at Apple events.

Thanks Jim!
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"introduce a second-generation iPad and redesigned fifth-generation iPad mini in October"

That's the other way round I believe.
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Double down on secrecy means no more Nope or Yep.
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Duh?  Why would they release them at the same time?  We'll be lucky to see a Mac update to go alongside.... only chance is if the GM of Mavericks and a release date comes out next week- which is extremely unlikely.  So we'll likely see the Macs and iPads all at the same time.

 

So with those ruled out- maybe we'll see an updated Apple TV iteration?  But I doubt that too.  iPhones only with a Mavericks and Mac Pro release date with -maybe- a side dose of iPod.

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post #8 of 46
I think the beard might be correct with this one, but I don't think that the beard's yep or nope in general have to be taken so seriously by the media! The beard does not have any idea either! Just yep or nope! 1smile.gif
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long awaited flying car will not be introduced sept 10
Ask me about.... The 80's!
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NEWS FLASH! NEWS FLASH! NEWS FLASH!

This September event will also not include an update of the MacBook Air!

Nor will it include Jet-propelled laptops.

or solar-powered iphones that can charge your laptop (although I wish it did).

 

admittedly, this is a good service Jim is providing, but the title just seems to pick me up and throw me at sharp objects.
 

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Double down on secrecy means no more Nope or Yep.

 

Yes, but considering the frequency, number and accuracy of leaks have all increased since they "doubled down" on secrecy, that whole idea is a bit of a joke really. 

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

Yes, but considering the frequency, number and accuracy of leaks have all increased since they "doubled down" on secrecy

 

Hmm. Proof? I want an itemized chart; it doesn't feel any worse (or better) than any other year.

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post #13 of 46
God I can't stand Mark Gurman from 9to5Mac. He just tweeted that he noped this first. Well I read his article and he didn't say no, he said he thought it was unlikely. Yeah like most people did when they first heard it. When you get a yes or no from Jim it's almost guaranteed the source was Apple.
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Jim's 'yep/nope' posts are invaluable in heading off the rumor trains that always lead to unfounded disappointment at Apple events.

Thanks Jim!

On the other hand,

 

An unofficial rumor has been negated by an unofficial spokesman for apple.

 

Sigh...

post #16 of 46
Mac Pro, anyone?
I guess it wouldn't fit this kind of event.
It'll probably be announced online or at some developer related convention or something.
post #17 of 46
Originally Posted by palegolas View Post
Mac Pro, anyone?
I guess it wouldn't fit this kind of event.
It'll probably be announced online or at some developer related convention or something.

 

Already BEEN announced. All it has to do now is be released. It'll be a silent update on the store, possibly not even on its own.

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Will be introduced ...
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Apple Insider, this is the most important news I ever read. Thank you - oohhhh - thaaaaank you sooo much.

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But will a new Apple TV be introduced? Will it be round instead of square? White not black?

 
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post #19 of 46
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Hmm. Proof? I want an itemized chart; it doesn't feel any worse (or better) than any other year.

You tell us- How many AI  reported leaks vs last year vs the year before. You seem to have all the time in the world with a far superior retainer of Apple knowledge that is your brain. Please enlighten us. 

 
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Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post
How many AI  reported leaks vs last year vs the year before.

 

Not good enough. The important factor is the difference in rumor->real between this year and the last, not just "all leaks".

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post #21 of 46
Macs at the iPhone event? "Still" a possibility? When did that idea ever make any sense?
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Yes, but considering the frequency, number and accuracy of leaks have all increased since they "doubled down" on secrecy, that whole idea is a bit of a joke really. 

Unless there's something really big in the works that you have heard nothing about. If that's the case, you'll be the first to take back this 'bit of a joke' business when you finally get wind of it, won't you?
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Proof is cause I said so, (basically the same reasoning you apply to all your "pronouncements from the mount").  

Other than yourself though, I don't think you'd find many folks who follow the rumours that disagree.  

I disagree. It seems about the same as always for me. Apple has some leaks and some that don't- just like in the past.

Remember the iPhone 4? We had a teardown of that. But we heard little about the rMBP and nothing of the iPad 4. So it's give and take like always. Not to mention the capabilities people have now with tiny pocket cameras.

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post #24 of 46
Doesn't apple usually give notice two weeks before an event? But i was expecting two events this fall, they cant show everything at one, iphone, ipad, mac, and ipod. The only thing I would like to see is more macs with the new ac wifi , i would be curious about the next iphone as it seems gazelle is offering good deals and the possible apple trade in for credit as well.
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Unless there's something really big in the works that you have heard nothing about. If that's the case, you'll be the first to take back this 'bit of a joke' business when you finally get wind of it, won't you?

I think you're touching on what everyone else seems to be missing about the doubling down on secrecy. Keeping new iphone designs secret is important but it isn't the Crown Jewels of secrets. It was that before 2007 though. And just before the iPad was announced all the competition had no clue what we would see, and I'd argue it took them quite a while to fully understand it. That's where secrecy matters.

Certainly Jim Dalrymple saying yes or nope to a rumor has no importance secrecy wise. It's not a game of secrets. "Look everyone we caught them not being secret". In general if you don't need to say anything (yet) then don't.But if you think it might be prudent to manage people's expectations a bit so they don't burn down their local apple store when we don't deliver new iPads, then maybe we should give Jim a sign.
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long awaited flying car will not be introduced sept 10

Damn. I was looking forward to a Mr. Fusion powered iCar.
post #27 of 46
The iPad will likely be using the successor GPU to the SGX 554 which would be the PowerVR G6630:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Imagination-announces-PowerVR-G6630----up-to-60-times-the-graphics-prowess-of-current-iPhones-and-iPads_id36770

It's noted as being 1TFLOP vs just under 80GFLOPs for the current model. In actual real-time performance, it'll likely be around 3x the current iPad but there are different things to measure. For example compute performance for more advanced shaders makes games look nicer but the game doesn't have to run at a higher frame rate or resolution.

Apple could well be able to say 10x the GPU power over last year if they use this GPU even if that doesn't translate into 10x higher frames per second.

This GPU roadmap is listed as 2013/2014 so it could be launched early 2014. With that kind of graphics power though, it would be nice if the GPUs were available in time for Christmas as they can take on the next-gen consoles. Hardware controller + iPad + some iOS exclusive games and that would make a nice Christmas for a lot of kids. It's not going to be a replacement for older kids/teens that need their Call of Duty fix but it would still be appealing for some and you never know, with this kind of power, pretty much every AAA game that exists on the PS3 and 360 can be ported over. The exclusives won't but the cross-platform ones can be.
post #28 of 46
This is expected because Cook said that it was a mistake to introduce so many new products all at once last year. Thereby causing problems with supply chain and attendent issues to do with initial dropping profit per device because at the start of a newer product cycle the parts are relatively more costly due to waste etc. than when the manufacturing process is mature. Having many new devices all coming out at the same time cause Apple's ROI to drop earlier in 2013. This time around they are going to phase them in. This will no satisfy the people who need their fix of new products created by all the rumors this year. All we will be getting is the iPhone5 , iPhone5c and the new OS's on Sept 10th. A month or two later they will launch the new iPads and perhaps the Apple TV or iWatch in time for Christmas. Watch the herd make lots of noise decrying lack of innovation - tough tittes!
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I disagree. It seems about the same as always for me. Apple has some leaks and some that don't- just like in the past.

Remember the iPhone 4? We had a teardown of that. But we heard little about the rMBP and nothing of the iPad 4. So it's give and take like always. Not to mention the capabilities people have now with tiny pocket cameras.

 

Well opinions differ and it's a subjective assessment I'm making, but I was thinking a longer time frame.  I don't remember thing one on the original iPhone for instance, whereas we already know every physical detail of the upcoming iPhone 5S except the home button and have detailed high-res pictures of the parts.  The original iPad was also a complete surprise and the leaks for iPad two seemed few and far between.  It was always like that back in the day for older Apple products as well.  No one knew much of anything until they were revealed. 

 

I could go on and I know some won't agree anyway, but I think it's a fair assessment that leaks have increased over time.  They certainly haven't *decreased* by a factor of two as would be suggested by the famous Cook quote. 

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Doesn't apple usually give notice two weeks before an event?

 

5 - 10 days notice.

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post #31 of 46
Seriously though... will they introduce the new Mac Pro?
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Originally Posted by BeltsBear View Post
Seriously though... will they introduce the new Mac Pro?

 

Why? It was already introduced. If anything, a silent addition to the store when it comes back online.

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Why? It was already introduced. If anything, a silent addition to the store when it comes back online.
My guess is they'll give it and mavericks both a release date whenever they give the mavs release date that is.

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Why? It was already introduced. If anything, a silent addition to the store when it comes back online.

 

I'm not sure I agree with this. It was a "sneak preview" at WWDC (yes, an introduction). But I think they're going to make a bigger deal of its release than that. It's their new "innovation flagship" of the moment…

 

I think they'll highlight it at an event like this, detailing the specific model increments and pricing, additional features/changes to the announced design, and drum up some additional buzz over it. They want to sell a ton of them, and to make it compelling they're going to have to pitch it a bit more.

 

I expect the usual 2 to 3 models, from entry level to top-of-the-line. I don't expect it to appear quietly, almost anti-climacticly, with no further ado.

 

Why do you think they would do a "silent addition" of this new, very interesting renewal of the Mac Pro?

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Has the September 10th date been confirmed? Have press releases gone out or something? I missed a few news articles last week.

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Originally Posted by tribalogical View Post

Why do you think they would do a "silent addition" of this new, very interesting renewal of the Mac Pro?

 

Because they already announced and explained it? Because they've never shown a product twice? They didn't hold the October iMac event and then another event when it actually came out.

 

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Has the September 10th date been confirmed?

 

No.

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post #37 of 46
Very disappointed in having to wait it out till October! I would like Apple to announced the iPad line up the same time!
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Duh?  Why would they release them at the same time?
Because they are running out of time. Apple has not had a significant release of an available product all year. If not September, when? I suspect they won't even be offering some products for immediate sale as it is.
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NEWS FLASH! NEWS FLASH! NEWS FLASH!
This September event will also not include an update of the MacBook Air!
Nor will it include Jet-propelled laptops.
or solar-powered iphones that can charge your laptop (although I wish it did).

admittedly, this is a good service Jim is providing, but the title just seems to pick me up and throw me at sharp objects.

 

Actually, I know a guy whose cousin's boyfriend's father's nephew's stepson's former roommate is a janitor at Apple, and I can unequivocally confirm the rumor about jet-powered laptops launching September 10th.

You heard it here first!
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Because they are running out of time.

No they aren't.

 

 

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 If not September, when?

Considering the iPad Mini was released on October 23rd of last year and has phenomenal sales- how about then?

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