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6 months after Andy Rubin's exit, another top executive leaves Google's Android team

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One of the most high-profile members of Google's Android team has left the company for a handset maker in China, just over six months after Andy Rubin, former head of Android development, took on a new position.

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Google confirmed this week that Hugo Barra, former vice president of product management for Android, has left the company. Barra has served as a very public face for Android, leading many of Google's product unveilings and demonstrations.

Barra has left Google to become a vice president at at Xiaomi, a Chinese smartphone maker that builds handsets that use the Android mobile operating system. Google said in a statement that the company is "excited" the former executive is "staying within the Android ecosystem."

The departure comes as Barra allegedly ended a "thorny" relationship with a co-worker at Google, according to sources who spoke with AllThingsD. Though Barra reportedly tendered his resignation before the split, that Google employee is now said to be dating Google co-founder Sergey Brin, who recently split with his own wife.

Barra's exit is the second major change to the Android team in just six months. In March, Google announced that Andy Rubin, who served as head of Android since the platform was acquired in 2005, was moving on to a "new chapter" at the company.

The major shakeup at Google has occurred as Android has established itself as the market share leader in smartphones, but also as the search company struggles to monetize the platform and end fragmentation among different hardware vendors.

Apple saw its own mobile division see major changes late last year with the departure of iOS chief Scott Forstall. That led to head designer Jony Ive taking control of Apple's iPhone and iPad operating system, leading to a major overhaul in the design of iOS 7.
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I'd rather see that little green fella leave; he looks spooky to me!
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The Android balloon is inflating rapidly. They may have grabbed the lion share of low cost smartphones worldwide, but they have done with on a core that is in grave trouble right now.

Lag, fragmentation, malware, slow progress are not the important reasons for the despair, but all the infringement of tons of patents from several companies. Fosspatents has great insight into this. They are losing battle after battle, and the motorola acquisition which was suppose to give Google enough ammo to fight back has turned sour.

Right now it looks like even Google has realized that this plan has backfired, and they appear to be minimizing Android development/progress, and moving more and more resources into ChromeOS. They are slowly moving away, look at their latest Chromecast.

With Samsung wanting to move away to Tizen, HTC developing their own OS - we can clearly see where this is heading.

Apple need only to continue working on IOS, progressing, adding, enriching the ecosystem - and I am convinced that IOS will gain marketshare in the coming months and years.
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Anyone think that Xiaomi is now going to fork Android? I don't think they're part of the OHA.

 

And you can't compare this to Forstall. He was released by Apple. Barra left on his own. Apple would have accounted for changes made by Forstall leaving when they made the decision - Google is now stuck trying to fill the shoes of someone leaving unexpectedly.

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Googlers can't even get their personal lives under control ... without Ads / Dramas! ROFLMAO

On another note, I am excited for Sergey Brin's ex-wife for kicking the guy's ass. I bet she caught him watching porn on his google glass!

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Those personal 'partner' bits sound like a soap opera! "Boss takes employee's gf after dumping wife, employee leaves ..." After that I can imagine the next episode would be, "Ex employee finds way to really screw with former employer by ..." [add your own ending.]
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Given the personal drama and the (apparent) sleeping around, the fact that he is leaving could easily have nothing to do with Rubin.

 

Therefore linking it to Rubin and Android's position at Google. would seem uncalled for.  

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I wonder when people will finally start to figure out that Google doesn't really care about Android, Chrome is where it's at for them. The point of Android was to counter Windows mobile and keep iPhone from becoming dominant. Android has done its job. At this point I don't think Google much cares about it.
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Anyone think that Xiaomi is now going to fork Android? I don't think they're part of the OHA.

 

Someone has to say it...

 

Android is already forked.

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Does this mean that he is going to stay in China 1mad.gif 1oyvey.gif or work from USA? 1cool.gif

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Google is Doomed?

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Anyone think that Xiaomi is now going to fork Android? I don't think they're part of the OHA.

 

It's unclear exactly what Xiaomi does in-house and what they outsource.  If they outsource to any companies which are part of the OHA, then they'll still have problems (as we saw with Aliyun).

 
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I'm sure they paid him a butt load to lure him away, it's all about the benjamins. I originally wrote pentiums and had to erase it, damn you Weird Al.

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Something is happening my friends....something very interesting. 1wink.gif

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So this new company he  is going to work for is going to steal from Android, what Android stole from iOS and what iOS took from Mac OS which stole from Xerox.

 

THIS CAN GET CONFUSING.

 

DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT SAYING THE IPHONE STOLE NECESSARILY EVERYTHING FROM MAC OS, JUST AS I'M SAYING THAT ANDROID DIDNT NECESSARILY STEAL EVERYTHING FROM iOS. NOR I AM SAYING THAT MAC OS STOLE EVERYTHING FROM XEROX.

 

It's just a little funny observation. 

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We've all wanted to move to China after a bad breakup. But sleep on it! Tomorrow is another day.
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We've all wanted to move to China after a bad breakup. But sleep on it! Tomorrow is another day.

You think he'll bring sweets on his flight?

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I didn't know Yoko worked at Google

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Given the personal drama and the (apparent) sleeping around, the fact that he is leaving could easily have nothing to do with Rubin.

 

Therefore linking it to Rubin and Android's position at Google. would seem uncalled for.  

 

Rubin only comes into the conversation when they say it is the 2nd high level manager to leave.  That is all.  Quote is below...

 

"Barra's exit is the second major change to the Android team in just six months. In March, Google announced that Andy Rubin, who served as head of Android since the platform was acquired in 2005, was moving on to a "new chapter" at the company."

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So this new company he  is going to work for is going to steal from Android, what Android stole from iOS and what iOS took from Mac OS which stole from Xerox.

THIS CAN GET CONFUSING.

DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT SAYING THE IPHONE STOLE NECESSARILY EVERYTHING FROM MAC OS, JUST AS I'M SAYING THAT ANDROID DIDNT NECESSARILY STEAL EVERYTHING FROM iOS. NOR I AM SAYING THAT MAC OS STOLE EVERYTHING FROM XEROX.

It's just a little funny observation. 

Apple didn't steal anything from Xerox. They got a bunch of Apple stock that would be worth billions if they had held on to it.

You seem to be over using the word steal. Either to force a joke or imply that stealing is just what everybody does?
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I wonder when people will finally start to figure out that Google doesn't really care about Android, Chrome is where it's at for them. The point of Android was to counter Windows mobile and keep iPhone from becoming dominant. Android has done its job. At this point I don't think Google much cares about it.

You know I think you might be right, Google appears to have move on, which make sense, they are not letting their past decisions and investment dictate their future direction. This could be the reason people are leaving since internally it is not given the same level of importance it has in the past.

 

The only question is we all know Google makes its money in selling ad views, and as the world becomes more mobile oriented google has not won this war, and with IOS cut them out every chance they get it not going well for Google. So how does Google think Chrome will make money for them?


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Those personal 'partner' bits sound like a soap opera! "Boss takes employee's gf after dumping wife, employee leaves ..." After that I can imagine the next episode would be, "Ex employee finds way to really screw with former employer by ..." [add your own ending.]

That's what they cal "dogfooding" at Google. LOL!

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... So how does Google thing Chrome will make money for them?

 

Best thing they could do is get Chrome on chromebooks, tablets, phones, and their new Chrome TV thing and don't give it away.  What other choice do they have?  At that point, if they can get enough users, they will have the eyeballs for their ad network.


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Best this they could do is get Chrome on chromebooks, tablets, phones, and their new Chrome TV thing and don't give it away.  What other choice do they have?  At that point, if they can get enough users, they will have the eyeballs for their ad network.

"ChromePhone"? Oh, the humanity!

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Apple didn't steal anything from Xerox. They got a bunch of Apple stock that would be worth billions if they had held on to it.

I'm not sure they actually got the stock. They were given the right to buy shares at pre-IPO pricing, but I don't know if they actually did so or not. I also don't know if they may have received shares as a grant.

Either way, it would be interesting to see how much those shares would be worth today. IIRC, the number of shares was 100,000 for $1 M. That was out of 60 M total shares in the IPO. So for $1 M, Xerox would have had .17% of Apple - worth about $700 M today.

Even if they bought the shares and sold them the day after the IPO, they'd have tripled their money.
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Apple didn't steal anything from Xerox. They got a bunch of Apple stock that would be worth billions if they had held on to it.

You seem to be over using the word steal. Either to force a joke or imply that stealing is just what everybody does?

 

See that long string of capitalized letters? Might want to read those. 1tongue.gif

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The only question is we all know Google makes its money in selling ad views, and as the world becomes more mobile oriented google has not won this war, and with IOS cut them out every chance they get it not going well for Google. So how does Google thing Chrome will make money for them?

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I'm usually not one for gossip, but I'm kinda curious about this coworker whom these guys are fighting over. Clearly she traded up. She must be quite a special lady with a very specialized repertoire of skills. 1wink.gif
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It's unclear exactly what Xiaomi does in-house and what they outsource.  If they outsource to any companies which are part of the OHA, then they'll still have problems (as we saw with Aliyun).

 

That was Acer, who made a phone to run Aliyun and then cancelled it at the last minute due to pressure from Google. Acer is a member of the OHA so they have to follow rules to stay a member.

 

Companies that aren't members (like Amazon) can do what they want and Google has no leverage over them. This is likely one reason that Google is now moving more of Android "out" of Android and into Google Services. This way, members of the OHA get access to all the "goodies" and anyone forking Android is left with a much more "basic" OS that has things "stripped out".

 

 

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I'm usually not one for gossip, but I'm kinda curious about this coworker whom these guys are fighting over. Clearly she traded up. She must be quite a special lady with a very specialized repertoire of skills. 1wink.gif

 

The new "girl" is 26 and she's pretty hot (when compared to Brins' ex). The whole thing is bizarre. Can't Brin keep his pants zipped around other employees? It's just not professional considering the position he's in. Who cares if all the minions are screwing each other - let them have fun. But people in high places should have a little more control. Oh well, sometimes the little head overrules the big head.

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Who cares. This doesn't spell the end of anything. The guy was a horrible presenter and from interviews I've seen, a jerk.

I work for one if the largest insurers in the world...we've had our share of this at every level of management. Doesn't mean anything outside of the players involved.

Of course, a few mouth breathers on AI will find this significant.
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I'm usually not one for gossip, but I'm kinda curious about this coworker whom these guys are fighting over. Clearly she traded up. She must be quite a special lady with a very specialized repertoire of skills. 1wink.gif

Not Yoko. Pattie Boyd.
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Given the personal drama and the (apparent) sleeping around, the fact that he is leaving could easily have nothing to do with Rubin.

Therefore linking it to Rubin and Android's position at Google. would seem uncalled for.  

Sleeping around at Google: +4 million activations
Ending a relationship with Google co-worker: +2 million activations
Your ex leaves you for Sergey Brin: +10 million activations
Quitting Google: +25 million activations
Staying within the Android Family: +55 million activations
Being discussed on an Apple fan site: +100 million activations

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Dogfooding, Google style.

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So this new company he  is going to work for is going to steal from Android, what Android stole from iOS and what iOS took from Mac OS which stole from Xerox.

You could call it "stealing" from Xerox, IF Apple hadn't bought the rights to the technology and developed the GUI metaphor and frameworks and the hardware way beyond what Xerox had or ever could do. In the present vernacular, once it was purchased, Apple 0wned the technology.

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I'm usually not one for gossip, but I'm kinda curious about this coworker whom these guys are fighting over.

Sergey Brin maybe? I hear he's divorcing.

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If people would just embrace ethical non-monogamy, the whole serial monogamy thing wouldn't be so newsworthy. It would be more like who's friends with who. What am I saying... the USA lives on gossip. It distracts people from actual important things like how screwed we are by our "leaders" and corporate abuse.
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Apple needs to get their large screen phone out, increase the RAM size, get their OS a little more feature rich and give people a little more eye candy and focus on getting the iPhone to be indestructible and they'll do fine.

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Sergey Brin maybe? I hear he's divorcing.

This chicka:

 

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Google is Doomed?

 

Yes. We've always known this. It will never change. In fact, they are even more doomed than Apple.

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"ChromePhone"? Oh, the humanity!

 

The new Google TeleChrome? Whichever way you slice it… it just doesn't …

 

oh, I think I get it now. They plan to integrate telephony into Glass. Oh, the humanity!

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