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$89K worth of counterfeit Apple products seized by police from Maryland mall

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Two stores at Maryland's Arundel Mills Mall were discovered by police to be carrying hundreds of knock-off Apple products and components, falsely being offered under the guise of authorized Apple repair shops.

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Counterfeit Apple products seized by Maryland police. Credit: WBAL TV.


Police estimate the value of the items found at the stores to be around $89,000, according to WBAL TV in Baltimore, Md. The counterfeit items were reportedly taken from raids on the mall's Cyberion store and ST Tech Pros kiosk.

The products seized include colored iPhone conversion kits, allowing customers to give a new look to their smartphone. But the parts were improperly adorned with the official Apple logo, suggesting to customers that the knock-off parts were authentic.

Other fake parts included covers, cases and replacement screens, for both the iPhone and iPad. Police had an Apple representative check the items to confirm they were fakes.

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Counterfeit Apple products seized by Maryland police. Credit: WBAL TV.


In addition to putting the Apple logo on non-Apple parts, the shops were allegedly engaged in other activities, such as putting black stickers over parts to cover up the fact that they were counterfeit.

Authorities also said that the unauthorized repair shops were taking iPhones and replacing interior parts with inferior components not built or provided by Apple. The raids were conducted after a 7-month investigation.

Dealing with counterfeit products is not a new issue for Apple, though most of the company's troubles with knock-offs tend to stem from China, not the U.S. Some have even gone as far as to build entire fake Apple stores in China.

Otterbox, a case maker that specializes in Apple's iPhone, also announced this month that it had shut down a counterfeit operation and secured a $2 million court victory against a New York-based company named S&P Trading Inc.
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The Apple logo is bigger than Apple. It belongs to the world!

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It's crazy that people are manufacturing this stuff.  To go through all that trouble and not have your own brand name to print on it?  That's just weird...

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It's crazy that people are manufacturing this stuff.  To go through all that trouble and not have your own brand name to print on it?  That's just weird...

 

 

People want a quality brand, probably with a good warranty. Thinking about it, I wonder if any Samsung knock-offs have been made?

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Nice to see someone getting arrested over this, but where I live if you stopped this sort of thing, you would have to arrest tens of thousands of people a year. Even high end stores downtown sell fake (Apple branded) chargers for iPods right in the front window.

How would you get a pink one otherwise? Apple doesn't sell those.
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"$89K worth of counterfeit Apple products seized by police from Maryland mall"

 

Are they talking about Samsung? ~

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That's crazy. Everyone knows the Apple logo is the convergence of logo design. Apple is trying to have a monopoly on fruit themed logos. /s

Dear authorities, you'll find more idevice knockoffs under the Galaxy brand.
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"$89K worth of counterfeit Apple products seized by police from Maryland mall"

 

Are they talking about Samsung? ~

 

It wouldn't be worth that much.

 
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But iPhone 5C photos must be real. They have the Apple logo. /s

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It wouldn't be worth that much.

Each fake Samsung phone still counts towards the number they shipped. lol.gif

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Nice to see someone getting arrested over this, but where I live if you stopped this sort of thing, you would have to arrest tens of thousands of people a year. 

No arrests have been made.

 

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/maryland/anne-arundel-county/police-seize-hundreds-of-counterfeit-apple-products/-/10137088/21698892/-/11ka12wz/-/index.html#.Uh_6SxB90hY.link

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That's crazy. Everyone knows the Apple logo is the convergence of logo design. Apple is trying to have a monopoly on fruit themed logos. /s

Dear authorities, you'll find more idevice knockoffs under the Galaxy brand.

How dare Apple stop those poor small business owners from earning a living? Apple has plenty of money so they shouldn't worry about $89 K. /s
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People want a quality brand, probably with a good warranty. Thinking about it, I wonder if any Samsung knock-offs have been made?

I don't think one could create a worse-than-Samsung-quality product.
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Thinking about it, I wonder if any Samsung knock-offs have been made?

 

How would you tell? 1biggrin.gif

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That's crazy. Everyone knows the Apple logo is the convergence of logo design. Apple is trying to have a monopoly on fruit themed logos. /s

Dear authorities, you'll find more idevice knockoffs under the Galaxy brand.

Wrong! Having a Apple Device in some countries is a status that you are wealthy or rich. You rarely see people wanting their Galaxy SIII in all pink, green, etc. sure you see some but how often? 1 time in the last 2 years... How many people do you see if colored iPhones? Thousands. Apple has the most customers, sure Samsung is right there with them, but the majority of people have iPhones. If you broke it down by company Apple would be first with Samsung, but you have to remember that samsung does only make the Galaxy line, they make the cheap ones too. Take out the cheap ones, bam Apple is in the lead by a lot. Apple is the most popular phone company, if you put all the companies that license Android you've got more but more people have iPhones than Galaxy's. 

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I don't think one could create a worse-than-Samsung-quality product.

Its possible. Working for a repair company in Maryland ive seen it, and when that happens we send the part back to get a better one. We have a 6 month warranty on all of our parts that covers defects but not water damage of physical damage. We sell OEM parts and for Apple parts we do not sell backs with logos, they are straight black, or white, or whatever color you want, and we tell that to customers. Its the same quality part just with nothing printed on the back. 

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And they charger the full prices obviously, anything with the apple logo has to always Cost 10 times it would without /s
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And they charger the full prices obviously, anything with the apple logo has to always Cost 10 times it would without /s

Full price would be a brand new phone for 200+, repair is less than 100...

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How would you tell? 1biggrin.gif

Higher quality.

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Wrong! Having a Apple Device in some countries is a status that you are wealthy or rich. You rarely see people wanting their Galaxy SIII in all pink, green, etc. sure you see some but how often? 1 time in the last 2 years... How many people do you see if colored iPhones? Thousands. Apple has the most customers, sure Samsung is right there with them, but the majority of people have iPhones. If you broke it down by company Apple would be first with Samsung, but you have to remember that samsung does only make the Galaxy line, they make the cheap ones too. Take out the cheap ones, bam Apple is in the lead by a lot. Apple is the most popular phone company, if you put all the companies that license Android you've got more but more people have iPhones than Galaxy's. 

I think you misread it. In short, Galaxies are iPhone knockoffs.
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The definition of a loser: A store trying to sell knock-off Microsoft Surface RTs.

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I don't think one could create a worse-than-Samsung-quality product.
interesting, didn't Samsung S3 out sold the iPhone last year, at the same price as the iPhone? BTW I owned an iPhone
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I don't think one could create a worse-than-Samsung-quality product.
interesting, didn't Samsung S3 out sold the iPhone last year, at the same price as the iPhone? BTW I owned an iPhone

I'm failing to see the relevance here.

1) I said that I don't think there's a phone out there that is of worse quality than Samsung. That doesn't mean Samsung is crap; it means they are the lowest on the list, not meaning they are crap.

2) Sale numbers are a measure of, well, sales. Not quality, be it hardware or software, not customer satisfaction. Sale numbers are a bit like Wall Street valuing a companies stock; interesting, but not end-all kinda thing

3) No idea what you mean by 'I owned an iPhone', apart from not having one anymore.
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I cant believe that people can do this to a little shop! People buy these cheaper refurbished iPhones and they KNOW that they are counter fit, or "NON-OEM" This is a RIP! VaultFeed said something worth noting: http://vaultfeed.com/counterfeit-iphone-and-apple-products-taken-by-police-worth-89000-video/ Auto Parts businesses sell "NON-OEM" parts, but they don't get busted? Why don't we all have the freedom to use the parts we want, when we want! I think Apple just wants to control the quality of their products! But even the most long-term-reliable auto makers like Honda have MILLIONs of counterfeit parts sold yearly, and they don't go around getting everyone in trouble because people have "less of a quality experience" This doesn't make sense to me! Why can police steal a poor shops stuff because of this? I DONT think that the cops can really do something like this. Don't you agree with me that if they cant bust auto-part makers how is the device and device repair world any different? PLESE TELL...

It's not non-OEM that's the issue, it's using Apple's trademarks illegally and passing it off as the real thing.

Third party auto parts aren't illegal. Using Honda's logo and passing it off as authentic is.
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I'm failing to see the relevance here.

1) I said that I don't think there's a phone out there that is of worse quality than Samsung. That doesn't mean Samsung is crap; it means they are the lowest on the list, not meaning they are crap.

2) Sale numbers are a measure of, well, sales. Not quality, be it hardware or software, not customer satisfaction. Sale numbers are a bit like Wall Street valuing a companies stock; interesting, but not end-all kinda thing

3) No idea what you mean by 'I owned an iPhone', apart from not having one anymore.
First off, I got 2 phones. The phone is issued by my company, which is a iphone. My second phone, a htc one, which is my personal phone that I chose n paid for.
I spend more time with my phones then any gadgets that I'd own, including my computers. I mostly use it for Web browsing, email, music, movies, news, and the most is texting. So I know my phones very well, and not a fan of any phone maker. I just go with whatever that's better n fit my needs. Which is a lot. Iphone just doesn't cut it for me anymore. It is too restricted n not powerful enough. The screen is way too small. N there Ios is sooooo boring! The new ios 7 is old stuff, that's been out on Android many moons ago. I was really excited for this yr iphone. But with all the leaks, it seems that it's gonna be the same phone as last year. Im not a ihater, I want a iphone that I like. Bc after all I'll b using it.
Don't be a fan of anything! Especially in technology. Bc there r many great phones out there. All are competing for ur money.
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It's not non-OEM that's the issue, it's using Apple's trademarks illegally and passing it off as the real thing.

Third party auto parts aren't illegal. Using Honda's logo and passing it off as authentic is.

 

This is very true. Two of the automotive companies that most vigorously and aggressively enforce their trademarks are Ferrari and Shelby. Similar to Apple, making compatible parts for these marques (that don't infringe on patents) won't get you in trouble - it's trying to pass off something that isn't what it purports to be.

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God, people are so stupid it blows me away. Of course, no one was arrested because EBAY IS TOO BIG to arrest...
This is a customs issue and nothing more. Raiding mom and pop repair shops is harassment and I hope Cyberion sues the state police and the state of Maryland.

It's days like this where I'm embarrassed to be a human. Most of you are techs, but the intelligence level in here is appalling! (not you, mstone). There is not a single shred of evidence that Cyberion ever claimed to be an "APPLE AUTHORIZED RESELLER" or "APPLE CERTIFIED". Furthermore, they didn't manufacture the products and Maryland only requires a business license to repair computers.



But morons will buy into ANYTHING you see on TV. All it takes is a 2 min video to influence public perception. People will cheer the raid of this mom n' pop repair shop while the real companies responsible for these products getting into the US are none other than EBAY, (example 1) and AMAZON (example 2) of whom, does everything in their power to assist and defend their #1 customer: CHINA.
 


"Genuine" MacBook Battery for sale on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151201678466


But that's not the report you'll hear.... And you won't hear about the "big bad Maryland State Police" busting eBay, because they got stonewalled in their investigation when eBay basically said "Mess with us, and we'll buy your department and fire everyone." Maryland State Police should be ashamed for bullying a little mom and pop repair shop. I hope they sue the pants off them. I've installed many of color conversion kits and I'm not ashamed of it. All my paperwork clearly states "Not an official Apple Store or Apple reseller. We do not honor warranty repairs under AppleCare." Got a problem? Call eBay.


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I dont think that you understand. Ebay is not the supplier for Cyberion for iPhone parts. I am sure that they get all of their parts from suppliers in the United States and those suppliers get them from China or actually make the parts here in the US. Some aftermarket, others OEM. I know for a fact that they do not use parts from Ebay or amazon unless they have to. If you go through a suppliers you can send back defective parts, ship cost go down, and you can expect your parts the following day with one day shipping. 

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I dont think that you understand. Ebay is not the supplier for Cyberion for iPhone parts. I am sure that they get all of their parts from suppliers in the United States and those suppliers get them from China or actually make the parts here in the US. Some aftermarket, others OEM. I know for a fact that they do not use parts from Ebay or amazon unless they have to. If you go through a suppliers you can send back defective parts, ship cost go down, and you can expect your parts the following day with one day shipping. 

 

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