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It hasn't been nearly as successful as Microsoft hoped and promised a year ago, but the Windows 8 platform continues to inch forward in market share, most recently surpassing the overall installed base for Apple's Mac OS X.



The latest figures from Net Applications show Windows 8 with a 7.4 percent share of all desktop OS web traffic for August. That's up from the 5.4 percent share the OS held at the beginning of August, a jump of two percentage points.

At the beginning of July, Windows 8 had just barely passed Microsoft's much maligned Windows Vista OS in terms of share, but it still trailed Mac OS X. Now, the new touch-centric OS has surpassed Apple's desktop platform ? with 7.41 percent share for Windows 8 versus 7.3 percent for all OS X installs ? but Apple's dominance in tablets means that it is still beating Windows 8 where most observers believe it counts.

The iPad and competing Android-powered devices have proved especially troublesome for Microsoft to overcome. The Redmond, Wash.-based software giant tried to parlay its dominant position in the older computing environment into a foothold in the new mobile paradigm, but its attempts have sputtered, leaving both Microsoft and its many hardware manufacturing partners grasping as Apple and other mobile manufacturers grab the majority of consumer mindshare.

Windows 7, the follow up to Windows Vista, remains the most popular desktop operating system in the world with a 45.6 percent share, up from 44.5 percent in July. The next most popular is Windows XP, released in August of 2001 but still running on 33.66 percent of sampled desktops. Windows Vista accounted for only 4.11 percent share.

October will see the release of Windows 8.1, an altered version of Windows 8 that adds more functionality and gives back a certain degree of user choice with regard to interface options. Industry analysts, though, are uncertain how well the new version of the OS can do in reversing the general downward trend in PC sales.
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Not really a big deal since OSX Mavericks is coming soon.
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eeeekkk is XP still that popular!
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XP is still installed on the vast majority of computers at the hospital where I work (maybe all?) -- yes, Virginia, dinosaurs DO still roam the Earth!!!
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Well Microsoft has marketshare on the desktop world. True. It's a result of windows wver since the 80s. The dawn of mobile computing however is a different ball game. Only interested to hear how Microsoft does there.
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I really dont believe.  

And I have this NetShare fellows. I really feel like they bias the data.

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Windows 8 marketshare gains are because it is pre-installed on new Windows PCs. New PC buyers have no choice. The Win8 upgrade paints a different picture. Win8 is no Win7.

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This is saying Mac OS X makes up only 6.5% Marketshare of installed userbase worldwide,  versus about 91% for Windows. 

 

This makes me sad.

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eeeekkk is XP still that popular!

 

That's what I was thinking. It's crazy how a 12 year old OS still has over 1/3rd of the market. I wonder how much it costs Microsoft to support XP till 2014?

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Just as I suspected. Apple is truly doomed. So much about all the braggadocio of a post-PC era. Windows is still the most powerful force in the universe and market share is everything.

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Windows 8 marketshare gains are because it is pre-installed on new Windows PCs. New PC buyers have no choice. The Win8 upgrade paints a different picture. Win8 is no Win7.
Articles like this annoy the hell outta me. Of course Windows will pull ahead, look at all the various makers of Windows PC and every new one is pre-installed with Win8 (as stated by previous responder). In my opinion you can't adequately compare the two. Compare them separately (one OSX and one for Win) and see how consumers are adapting to the latest version of their respective companies operating system.
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I am partly responsible for the increase in Windows 8 use. I am completely and totally disgusted with this "upgrade". This was the straw that broke the camels back. I am now a Mac user. I have no regrets.
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What's so surprising: apple positioned itself as premium consumer computer, almost abandoned the premium pro segment, and never intended to compete in the enterprise market. The latter 2 may see significant improvements with Cook. At least, I'm hoping.
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If this is the worldwide share, doesn't 6.72% share imply quite an impressive increase for OSX? (I vaguely recall that it was around 4% - 5% not too long ago?).

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eeeekkk is XP still that popular!

Yep. That's the thing this article misses. The huge number of Windows systems makes it obvious that Windows 8 would pass OS X at some point.

The interesting thing is that 50% of Macs are running the latest version of the OS - vs only about 10% of Windows machines. Just like the mobile platform where the vast majority of iDevices run iOS 6 vs only a small percentage of Android devices running the latest version.
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What's so surprising: apple positioned itself as premium consumer computer, almost abandoned the premium pro segment, and never intended to compete in the enterprise market. .

And, yet, Apple's share of the market has been growing for years. I would venture that a large portion of that growth was in the "premium consumer" market.
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The interesting thing is that 50% of Macs are running the latest version of the OS - vs only about 10% of Windows machines. 

Even more impressively, nearly 100% of the Macs run on an OS released no earlier than June 2009.

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I think Apple had a golden opportunity to take market share from Microsoft when Windows 8 was announced in 2011. If they'd priced the MacBook aggressively I'm sure they could have won over lifelong Windows users who, like me, were unconvinced by the new OS but instead Apple lowered the spec of the MacBook retina range (no IR receiver, no Firewire port, no dedicated graphics card, no optical drive, no user access for hardware upgrades) and raised the price. Not smart.
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That's what I was thinking. It's crazy how a 12 year old OS still has over 1/3rd of the market. I wonder how much it costs Microsoft to support XP till 2014?

I believe MS doesn't support XP anymore, at least update wise.
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Articles like this annoy the hell outta me. Of course Windows will pull ahead, look at all the various makers of Windows PC and every new one is pre-installed with Win8 (as stated by previous responder). In my opinion you can't adequately compare the two. Compare them separately (one OSX and one for Win) and see how consumers are adapting to the latest version of their respective companies operating system.

 

Yes, every new Windows PC is pre-installed with Win8 and every new Mac is pre-installed with OS X.   So the comparison is very fair.    And frankly, I don't care.   I think Apple did better work when they were perceived as costly and elitist than they do now that they've become more of a mass-market company.    I'd much rather have a BMW than a Ford.   Unfortunately, as the PC/Mac market declines, Apple will probably invest far less in their computers and OS X.

 

Wintel based machines are always going to be ahead of Apple because in an office enterprise environment, where most users don't need a very high quality machine, since they mainly use Word, Excel and Outlook (and maybe Powerpoint), they can still buy Dells and the like for half the price of a Mac.   And I say that even though I think the iMac is an incredible bargain.   The design department might convince management to give them Macs, but everyone else is still using PCs.  And that's where most of the sales are.    My dentist uses Macs and I've walked into some hotel lobbies where it's all Mac because they look nicer, but walk into most enterprises and you still see PCs all over the place. 

 

Even in a home environment, in spite of the Mac's advantages and inroads with "switchers", if you don't have a big budget for computers, you're going to go with a cheap PC, especially if you want a laptop.    I love my Macs, but when I had to replace my mother's computer (she's in her 80's), I bought her a crappy Dell because I was too cheap to spend the money for a Mac, especially a laptop, for the limited uses she had for the machine, mainly limited to a bit of email and a drop of web surfing.  

 

But much of this is moot, because especially in a home environment, many (perhaps the majority) of users don't need a computer.   They only used computers because there was no alternative.  But for people who only surf, listen to music, read ebooks, email, text, use Facebook, send Tweets and watch YouTube and the like, a Pad or large-screen smartphone more than serves their needs.    They don't really need a traditional computer.  They never really did - it was always overkill.    

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XP is like a free OS in China. They don't even bother with Windows 7, XP runs everything and works with all the cheap USB junk. It's not like there's new hardware coming out that actually needs Windows 7 or 8 either. And corporations are usually on XP because all the shitty "enterprise" software can never be upgraded to Windows 7 without massive rewriting and cost, so they just leave it be.
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As esquared mentioned, with Windows on ALL pcs this comparison is literally apple and oranges.
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Windows comes installed on every PC. Box-makers have no choice. 

 

Meanwhile Macs continue to set the bar when it comes to the synergy of form and function. For years and years now. 

 

(oh, and actual PROFIT, too.)

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I think Apple could gain more marketshare if it trimmed its margins just a little bit. Love the Mac, but it is pricey. I know the quality is good, but I can spec out a gaming rig I build myself for less that will run circles around any iMac, and I know Apple pays less for their parts than I pay. However, I do concede that Apple has unique motherboards that are probably more costly to make than an ATX form factor board, and my home made PC would still be a Windows machine and it would still be a big freakin' box that sits on the floor, gathering lots of dust from the carpet that has to be cleaned often. Still, it would be nice to see the Mac get to 20% marketshare...
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Apple owns the top-tier of the market. The top of the retail pyramid. This is pure gold for anyone in the industry. Lower volume, higher profit. 

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Windows comes installed on every PC. Box-makers have no choice. 

In all fairness; (i) Macs come pre-installed with OSX; (ii) Apple does not* give box makers a choice.

 

* and should not

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In all fairness; (i) Macs come pre-installed with OSX; (ii) Apple does not* give box makers a choice.

 

* and should not

I don't get this...  On the mac, there are no box makers since everything is made by Apple - there are no other box makers.

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No surprise here. Apple's business model will prevent it from ever gaining significant marketshare. Windows 8 blows, IMHO, but that won't prevent it from gaining share especially as OEM's are forced to bundle on their new PC's. Windows 7, however will be the dominant PC operating system for the next few years...
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It's a post-pc world. iOS and (I hate to say it) Android are destroying the regular pc industry. Steve Jobs definitely saw it coming when he announced we're moving into a post-pc world years ago. I wouldn't say Microsoft is doomed but they will not be the dominent player they used to be.

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No surprise here. Apple's business model will prevent it from ever gaining significant marketshare. Windows 8 blows, IMHO, but that won't prevent it from gaining share especially as OEM's are forced to bundle on their new PC's. Windows 7, however will be the dominant PC operating system for the next few years...

PC sales are dying. Consumers are realizing an appliance like the iPad does everything they need.

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No surprise here. Apple's business model will prevent it from ever gaining significant marketshare. Windows 8 blows, IMHO, but that won't prevent it from gaining share especially as OEM's are forced to bundle on their new PC's. Windows 7, however will be the dominant PC operating system for the next few years...

Dominant PC operating system, yes. Enjoy the ride.

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I think Apple could gain more marketshare if it trimmed its margins just a little bit. Love the Mac, but it is pricey. I know the quality is good, but I can spec out a gaming rig I build myself for less that will run circles around any iMac, and I know Apple pays less for their parts than I pay. However, I do concede that Apple has unique motherboards that are probably more costly to make than an ATX form factor board, and my home made PC would still be a Windows machine and it would still be a big freakin' box that sits on the floor, gathering lots of dust from the carpet that has to be cleaned often. Still, it would be nice to see the Mac get to 20% marketshare...

1. Why should Apple care about getting to 20% market share? What would it do for them that they don't get now? Hint: selling more boxes doesn't mean more profits - and if they had to cut prices, they might actually earn less. There's a reason why Apple makes most of the industry's profits.

2. Where's your evidence that Apple could significantly grow market share with a price cut? I'm not sure anyone has ever measured the price elasticity of Apple's computers. A large fraction of the PC market wouldn't switch to Macs at ANY price.

In the end, I trust Apple to know what they're doing more than some random stranger on AI.
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Apple needs another "Think different." campaign...

 

They need to run more TV ads for their Macintosh products...

 

The public needs to know more about why the Mac is a better computing experience than the PC...

 

I believe Apple is focused too much on promoting iPhone and iPad at the moment, and is not working on promoting the Mac.

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Plus, embedded Linux absolutely trounces OS X when it comes to microwave ovens.
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Soon Microsoft will be sitting in ALL the deck chairs of the sinking ship. Congrats to them.
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I think Apple had a golden opportunity to take market share from Microsoft when Windows 8 was announced in 2011. If they'd priced the MacBook aggressively I'm sure they could have won over lifelong Windows users who, like me, were unconvinced by the new OS but instead Apple lowered the spec of the MacBook retina range (no IR receiver, no Firewire port, no dedicated graphics card, no optical drive, no user access for hardware upgrades) and raised the price. Not smart.
The 13" MacBook Pro stayed exactly the same price as its been since its debut in June of 2009. In fact, they upgraded it last year improving the processor, graphics, architecture, and Ram- all at no cost increase.

Now you're trying to compare the classic with the retina which is a brand new Mac all to its own. Which is unfair.

So everything you said was factually untrue.

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This does put desktop computing in perspective, especially when you realise that the vast majority of this user base is corporate. Yes it's true mobile is the growing market but within corporations where real number crunching and documents get generated, windows is still king. Unfortunately that will not change until Apple offers a serious contented for Office and Excel in particular. OSX really hasn't made a big dent in the corporate market if these numbers are to be believed.

It would be very interesting if OSX was able to run on PC/Laptop platforms and was promoted as such.
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I wonder how much Apple really wants the home computer market. If they wanted more revenue from home computers they would bring back the Mac vs. PC ads. The Windows 8 OS is so annoying I'm sure writers could come up with thirty reasons the Mac is better than Windows 8. It would be fun too.

 

The new Mac Pro looks great. What could they do with a less powerful home desktop unit that is much more powerful than a Mac Mini? Top of the line i7 chips and tons of ports would be the way to go. it could be a shorter version of the Mac Pro. The thing that is very impressive about the System 76 desktop units are the amount of ports they have. I would also like a disc drive as an option. That way it could make me happy and those of you who think they're archaic wouldn't have to get one. You could order a second hard drive in that space.

 

Since Vista I've really hated Microsoft. The more they fail the happier I am. These days I'm only concerned about Linux and OS X. If I ever buy a tablet or smart phone I'll delve into whichever OS comes with the device I buy. The proof that Microsoft is in the toilet is the tiny bit of market share it has almost a year into the release of Windows 8. Remember that Microsoft is working its way into cars. It is probably exploring other devices too. If one of those takes off they could rebuild themselves in a new market. Apple did the same thing with phones, then tablets. What is next for both of them?

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I believe MS doesn't support XP anymore, at least update wise.

They do until April 2014. Then custom support only for $200 per year per machine through 2017

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