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A day before Sony is set to officially announce its new Bluetooth camera lens accessories compatible with Apple's iPhone, details on the forthcoming products have leaked, including a launch window, pricing, and even a commercial.

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Specifics on the Cyber-shot QX100 and QX10 models were found in an early press release published by SonyAlpha Rumors on Tuesday. The low-end QX10 model is revealed to cost "about" $250, while the QX100 will be around $500. Both are scheduled to arrive later this month.

Both lenses will operate completely separate from a smartphone, but will allow users to control the camera from a connected device like Apple's iPhone. The lens can clip onto an iPhone or Android handset, while a lens camera mount that sticks on the back of the handset will also be available.



The lenses will rely on the Sony PlayMemories Mobile application, available for both iOS and Android. From there, users will be able to use the iPhone screen as a real-time viewfinder, and also release the shutter, start and stop movie recordings, and control other aspects of the lens such as zoom, shooting mode, focus and more.

Both the Cyber-shot QX100 and QX10 will use Wi-Fi to connect to an iPhone or Android device. But the lenses will also have their own onboard storage, up to 64 gigabytes with a microSD card.

The high-end QX100 will sport a 1-inch Exmor CMOS sensor capable of capturing 20.9-megapixel images with a Carl Zeiss lens. It's identical to the sensor found in the Cyber-shot RX100II camera, and boasts a 3.6x optical zoom.

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The entry-level QX10 will feature a 1/2.3-inch Exmor CMOS sensor and a Sony G 9 lens that will offer 18.9-megapixel images and 10x optical zoom. It will be available in both black and white colors, matching Apple's iPhones.

The QX100 will offer unique features such as manual focus, enhanced white balance modes, and aperture priority. Both models feature built-in stereo microphones, integrated mono speakers, and plastic body construction.

Because the lenses are wirelessly connected to a smartphone, users will be able to detach the accessory and control it remotely from their iPhone. It can even be mounted to a tripod for this purpose.

"With the new QX100 and QX10 cameras, we are making it easier for the ever-growing population of 'mobile photographers' to capture far superior, higher-quality content without sacrificing the convenience and accessibility of their existing mobile network or the familiar 'phone-style' shooting experience that they?ve grown accustomed to," said Patrick Huang, director of the Cyber-shot business at Sony.

"We feel that these new products represent not only an evolution for the digital camera business, but a revolution in terms of redefining how cameras and smartphones can cooperatively flourish in today?s market."
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post #3 of 50
I like the concept of this. I just hope the actual implementation is as good. If so I might be seriously considering a purchase of the QX100 model.
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Shut up and take my money
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I'll reserve judgement until I read the reviews and see the price in Europe.

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What does 'wirelessly connected' mean here? Bluetooth? If so, what version of BT?

I only wish it weren't tied to Sony software... I'd hope that third parties could develop software for it.

We'll see.

 

edit: apparently the Playmemories software uses wi-fi.

 

Use your Sony camera with built- in Wi-Fi®

 

Ick? Does that mean its only usable when both devices are connected to an external wi-fi network, or that the lens has a mini hotspot built in? 

Not having good feelings about this. Response sounds like a dog.

post #7 of 50
This is really weird. And if they offer a good telephoto, I'm interested!
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Sounds clever, but clunky.

 

I'll wait to see how it performs in the wild.

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It is amazing!
post #10 of 50
Looks like something for people who want to take real pictures.
Oh wait.... those people carry real cameras with them!
post #11 of 50
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Looks like something for people who want to take real pictures.
Oh wait.... those people carry real cameras with them!

Yep, and they carry the crappy interface and software that comes with them.

This is close to what I've been saying someone should do for years... 

Make a great lens that uses an iPhone (superior to any brain that a camera maker can produce) as the viewfinder and controller.

My only gripe on this is that its tied to Sony software.

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This is a joke.
You cannot increase the pixel on your phone with those lenses. Sorry suckers!!!!! If your phone sees 5 mega pixels and you try placing a 20 mega pixel lens over your phone's CCD will only see, wait for it, 5 mega pixels.
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This is a joke.
You cannot increase the pixel on your phone with those lenses. Sorry suckers!!!!! If your phone sees 5 mega pixels and you try placing a 20 mega pixel lens over your phone's CCD will only see, wait for it, 5 mega pixels.

 

The lenses come with their own sensors. Did you not read the article or do you just not understand it?

 

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This is a joke.
You cannot increase the pixel on your phone with those lenses. Sorry suckers!!!!! If your phone sees 5 mega pixels and you try placing a 20 mega pixel lens over your phone's CCD will only see, wait for it, 5 mega pixels.

ill bite -

did you read the article before commenting? The come with Exmor sensors.

 

I think this is a very good idea - hope its implemented well. I often carry nex-6 when i'm somewhere that i might be wanting a better camera than is built in to the iPhone. These lenses will be much easier to carry, and hopefully even easer to email pictures from them (via iPhone) while on location somewhere.

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Interesting. I can see this on helium filled balloons (tethered), and hobby aircraft. I was really hoping my iPhone photography would greatly increase with the 5s and now it looks like it can. I only wish this was Canon and not Sony, but for what it is, it should be lots of fun. 

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I wish people would stop calling these idiotic things "camera lenses for iPhones."  They aren't.  

 

They are an entire camera that uses the iPhone as a remote viewfinder.  They make it sound like they are strap on lenses for your iPhone, when in fact they are an entire self-sufficient camera that hangs off the side of your iPhone via a stupid plastic clip. 

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This will add a lot of unique shots to wedding, event photography, self portraits (no more in the mirror shots!!), and so much more. 

 

What do you imagine doing with your external lens? 

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I wish people would stop calling these idiotic things "camera lenses for iPhones."  They aren't.  

 

They are an entire camera that uses the iPhone as a remote viewfinder.  They make it sound like they are strap on lenses for your iPhone, when in fact they are an entire self-sufficient camera that hangs off the side of your iPhone via a stupid plastic clip. 

 

 

looks like a stand alone to me. I believe it can be both, as needed. 

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looks like a stand alone to me. I believe it can be both, as needed. 

 

 

Nope, it's just a stand alone.  While it attaches to a camera, it doesn't function as just a lens, as in, it doesn't pass light through it and on to the iPhone's sensor.

 

That's not to knock the product, but it's an important point. 

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There's no mention of what format the images are. I assume it's too much to hope there is a way to shoot RAW, but I suspect they will be JPEG, at least on the phone. While the larger 1 inch sensor has more features, it's only 3x zoom. Is that due to the larger sensor size?
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I am waiting for the first camera designed for "Selfies Only" photography.  With only one button - takes your picture and immediately uploads it to your Facebook page.  What else would anyone ever need?

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There's no mention of what format the images are. I assume it's too much to hope there is a way to shoot RAW, but I suspect they will be JPEG, at least on the phone. While the larger 1 inch sensor has more features, it's only 3x zoom. Is that due to the larger sensor size?

rumors are no raw, jpeg only.

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I am waiting for the first camera designed for "Selfies Only" photography.  With only one button - takes your picture and immediately uploads it to your Facebook page.  What else would anyone ever need?

a new social site, no longer called "face"book, but xxxbook ?

post #24 of 50
Was it just me or was the shot of the telephoto lens elongating timed well with the introduction of the female protagonist.
post #25 of 50
This is really cool, the major problem with it though is that it requires the Sony Playmemories App. I currently have the Sony Action cam that uses this app. The app is aweful. If this would somehow integrate with the built in camera app or give you an option of 3rd party apps it would be a no brainer, but as long as its tied to playmemories its gonna be a PITA.
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If they could find a way to work with Apple so that the lens could feed photo apps you already have, this would be a huge hit. I love Sony hardware. I own an A77 and it's the greatest camera I've ever used. But limiting these QX lenses to using Sony software will turn them into a disappointment.
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If they could find a way to work with Apple so that the lens could feed photo apps you already have, this would be a huge hit. I love Sony hardware. I own an A77 and it's the greatest camera I've ever used. But limiting these QX lenses to using Sony software will turn them into a disappointment.

maybe this is or is not what you mean...

i use a nex-6, and the iPhone app allows me to take any pictured from the nex-6 (using the mini wifi generated by the ned-6) and push them directly into the apple camera app. ( i think the app is play memories)

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This is really cool, the major problem with it though is that it requires the Sony Playmemories App. I currently have the Sony Action cam that uses this app. The app is aweful. If this would somehow integrate with the built in camera app or give you an option of 3rd party apps it would be a no brainer, but as long as its tied to playmemories its gonna be a PITA.

I agree the playmemory app is poor. It works - but I could have thrown together a pice of dog and pony demo in a day or so that would be nicer to use. It does do its job though.

 

My bigger concern for this system - is generally how convenient is it really going to be. Sure - you take a lens out of your pocket, clip it onto your iPhone , but then what? I would hope pressing a button on the lens is going to wake the phone and send it directly to the control app. I Hope - but i doubt. I will have to get used to asking everyone to be quiet for a few minutes, while i set it up, then ask them to recreate the spontaneity.....

Also more pictures without me in them - since no one i'm likely to be with  has the patience...


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post #29 of 50
Another extremely niche product that Sony will cancel in a few years. You hit a home run with the PS4 and a ground out with this one.
post #30 of 50
Wonderful idea. Look forward to seeing how well it is implemented.
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There's no mention of what format the images are. I assume it's too much to hope there is a way to shoot RAW, but I suspect they will be JPEG, at least on the phone. While the larger 1 inch sensor has more features, it's only 3x zoom. Is that due to the larger sensor size?

 

Might have similar options to the RX100 II?.

This is a bunch of win for me, i'd like to get one of these things, I guess the real test is, what will the iPhone 5s camera have? 
The QX100 has a 1 inch sensor & optical zoom using a zeiss lens :O so pretty damn good. 

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Nerd! Dude needs a GF bad!

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Nope, it's just a stand alone.  While it attaches to a camera, it doesn't function as just a lens, as in, it doesn't pass light through it and on to the iPhone's sensor.

 

That's not to knock the product, but it's an important point. 

 

 

Oh, if your question is rather this is just the glass, then no, how could it be? That would be silly to even think so. How could you possibly take raw image data over wifi to another device?

 

Is this a full camera without the add-on, no. It has a CMOS but no post-processing without the body, via an iPhone or its own that I have read. 

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I will buy this lens and everyone will like me and cute girls will recognise my childlike wonder and life will be good. Videos like that should come with a health warning, I'm feeling slightly nauseous

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Wireless 'viewfinder'? Sounds like a lot of delays and lag. Thus making the spontaneous photo difficult to take. GoPro wireless with the remote app is a dog! Waiting 3 seconds to see what I'm actually framing?!?! Plus I bet the playmemories app most likely is horrible too with few updates. Sigh...

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Wireless 'viewfinder'? Sounds like a lot of delays and lag. Thus making the spontaneous photo difficult to take. 

Mobile phone cameras and point-and-shoots were never particularly good at lag-hating applications (e.g., sports) anyway. You use a DSLR for that. We'll have to see if the lag is absolutely intolerable, or just a minor annoyance. Meanwhile, the image quality from this thing should blow away anything you could ever get from a mobile phone, including that new 40mp Nokia, so it's definitely something worth thinking about.

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Nerd! Dude needs a GF bad!

 

Looks like he's doing just fine at the end. 

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Nice iOS7 shirt.
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As two others have said, the killer here is the Sony Software. If Sony were to provide a developer API so this lens could worked with apps as good as Pro Camera, Instagram, Eyem etc. they would have a killer product.
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Oh, if your question is rather this is just the glass, then no, how could it be? That would be silly to even think so. How could you possibly take raw image data over wifi to another device?

 

It wasn't my question.  I was answering the question, and you just repeated me.

 

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Is this a full camera without the add-on, no. It has a CMOS but no post-processing without the body, via an iPhone or its own that I have read. 

 

It does post-process to the extent that it saves an image out as a JPEG to a Micro-SD card in the camera and can send that image to the iPhone via the Sony app.  It's a camera in every way except that it doesn't have a viewfinder or screen.  You can take it shoot pictures filling up the Micro-SD card and then import pictures into your Mac or PC just like any other camera without even using a smartphone (although you wont be able to see exactly what you're shooting or have shot).

 

Really the concept is pretty limiting.  Many newer cameras do exactly what this does but include a display/viewfinder.

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