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Apple has announced that it will be holding a special media event for Chinese journalists on Sept. 11, just ten hours after the company is expected to announce a next-generation iPhone lineup at its headquarters in Cupertino, Calif.

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The notices for Apple's Chinese event went out early Wednesday morning, inviting various media outlets to attend a special event in Beijing slated to begin at 10 a.m. local time on Sept. 11, reports SinaTech.

Identically designed invitations were sent to U.S. journalists on Tuesday for a Sept. 10 announcement, at which Apple is widely expected to unveil a next-generation "iPhone 5S," as well as a lower-cost model dubbed the "iPhone 5C."

If Apple does in fact debut new iPhones at both gatherings, it will be a significant departure from the company's usual product launches, illustrating the importance of the Chinese market. That a separate Chinese event has been planned lends credence to rumors regarding a less expensive iPhone model, which will reportedly keep costs down by adopting a plastic composite shell and current generation innards.

The so-called "iPhone 5C" could be a major boon for Apple in China, as cheaper handsets have been gaining popularity in the world's largest smartphone market. While not a premium offering like the anticipated iPhone 5S, which is rumored to come in a new "champagne" color to suit a shift in Chinese color preference, the 5C is expected to carry a price competitive in the upper mid-tier sector.

Apple has lost some ground recently to more affordable handsets made by local companies like Xiaomi, though the iPhone is not yet offered by China Mobile, the world's largest cellular carrier. Currently, only two operators carry the iPhone, previous exclusive partner China Unicom and, since 2012, China Telecom.

In July, Apple CEO Tim Cook reportedly visited with telecom executives, including China Mobile Chairman Xi Guohua, to discuss "matter of cooperation." Weeks later, China Mobile was said to be actively negotiating a deal with Apple, though an official arrangement has yet to be announced.
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LOL

Apple releases the iPhone 5C...in China only.

The C was for China.
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LOL

Apple releases the iPhone 5C...in China only.

The C was for China.

 

Hmm so there's a possibility that the 5C wont be announced on Sep 10th, and maybe announced on Sep 11th in China :) ?

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It could be the translation to Chinese of what the event is all about in the Sept 10 event in San Francisco. Based on the time difference, the event in SF is in the wee hours in the morning at 1am, Sept 11 in Beijing.
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I've thought all along that 5C is for china only!
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No, C will not be for China only. Leaked cases were found in Holland..., with english texts. All markets will need more affordable versions.

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you could be right..........all the rumours of the Iphone 5C but it could be only available in China! 

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As a Chinese speaker is difficult for me to picture Tim Cook speaking mandarin 0.0

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Seems to me Apple must have made a deal with China Mobile or something and are going to have a special event to announce it. I wonder who from Apple will be at that event? Unless Cook is flying to China right after the event in Cupertino?

EDIT: according to 9to5Mac the US and Chinese events are only a few hours apart. So I wonder who from Apple will be speaking at that event? Also 9to5Mac speculates this event is probably to announce a China Mobile deal.
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Cook would have to be there wouldn't he? If it's that big of a deal. Flights to Beijing from San Fran would take at least 12 hours. Unless he's borrowing one of Ellison's jets and leaving the US event early (former not likely, latter more likely than the former) he's not going to be there in person in China. Maybe he's going to do the China event via FaceTime 1wink.gif
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I can't see the point of him being at both, anyone interested who can speak English will have caught up on a streamed version of the US event before the China event, but it will be interesting* to see how the event will be presented, given that this has always been a major part of any keynote or press event. I suspect that we will either see Tim present over video, using Chinese slides, with a translator or possibly with a tight script and subtitles, or that he will make a pre-recorded subtitled intro, and leave it to someone native within Apple China to make the stage.

(*not very, admittedly, in the grand scheme of things)
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100% sure it is China Mobile Agreement
Maybe the biggest upgrade on the 5C and 5S is that they can support China Mobile own 3G network.
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Cook would have to be there wouldn't he? If its that big of a deal. Flights to Beijing from San Fran would take at least 12 hours. Unless he's borrowing one of Ellison's jets and leaving the US event early (former not likely, latter more likely than the former) he's not going to be there in person in China. Maybe he's going to do the China event via FaceTime 1wink.gif
9to5Mac says the events are only a couple hours apart. If it is a China Mobile deal wouldn't Apple announce that at the US event? That's huge news for Apple and I could see it really pushing the stock higher.
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100% sure it is China Mobile Agreement
Maybe the biggest upgrade on the 5C and 5S is that they can support China Mobile own 3G network.
Apple is up almost $8 pre market. Kind of smart for Apple to time this news the way they did with Samsung unveiling new gadgets today.
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I remember saying months ago that an "entry level" iPhone dsigned for the emerging markets would not necessarily be aimed at the US and EU. This may indeed be the case as the "5C" may only be designed for China, India, Brazil, etc., while the "5S" may be for the rest of us. I think this is a very smart strategy...why sell the lesser priced/featured phone in more affluent areas that are already buying the premium options Apple and other manufacturers are producing?

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Cook would have to be there wouldn't he? If its that big of a deal. Flights to Beijing from San Fran would take at least 12 hours. Unless he's borrowing one of Ellison's jets and leaving the US event early (former not likely, latter more likely than the former) he's not going to be there in person in China. Maybe he's going to do the China event via FaceTime 1wink.gif

Or they could use the Gulfstream it leased from Jobs.
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I remember saying months ago that an "entry level" iPhone dsigned for the emerging markets would not necessarily be aimed at the US and EU. This may indeed be the case as the "5C" may only be designed for China, India, Brazil, etc., while the "5S" may be for the rest of us. I think this is a very smart strategy...why sell the lesser priced/featured phone in more affluent areas that are already buying the premium options Apple and other manufacturers are producing?
Hmm...I can't see Apple building a phone just for certain countries. Have they ever done anything like that before?
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Apple builds special versions for specific carriers.

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I've thought all along that 5C is for china only!

So you've been wrong all along then. Did you not see the colourful invitation for SF? Apple does not operate like you assume. They are different.
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As a Chinese speaker is difficult for me to picture Tim Cook speaking mandarin 0.0

Is that perhaps because he cannot speak Mandarin? Tim Cook won't be doing the Chinese keynote.
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9to5Mac says the events are only a couple hours apart. If it is a China Mobile deal wouldn't Apple announce that at the US event? That's huge news for Apple and I could see it really pushing the stock higher.

 

The China event will probably be exactly the same as the US event.

 

Meaning Apple will launch 5S, 5C, Apple TV as well as announce a China Mobile and likely DoMoCo deal at the US event. Then hours later at the China event, the same products will be announced and then officials from China Mobile will be there at the China event to talk the details about their new deal with Apple and what that means for consumers there. Likely details we Americans won't care about hence why there will be separate events.

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An Apple event on 9/11in a communist country?? Apple hates America! Terrorism! Other words that scare Americans!
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I wonder if Apple is expanding what they offer in the Chinese iTunes store such as music and movies....

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Tim Cook sure is enamoured with that country.

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The China event will probably be exactly the same as the US event.

Meaning Apple will launch 5S, 5C, Apple TV as well as announce a China Mobile and likely DoMoCo deal at the US event. Then hours later at the China event, the same products will be announced and then officials from China Mobile will be there at the China event to talk the details about their new deal with Apple and what that means for consumers there. Likely details we Americans won't care about hence why there will be separate events.
That makes sense. Stock is up over $12 pre market so Wall Street must be expecting a deal.
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Tim Cook sure is enamoured with that country.

It's an emerging market.

 

Besides, isn't capitalism the best way to defeat communism?

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The main purpose of this event will be to disclose a deal with China Mobile and it will make the share fly! I feel really good about this. No friggin way the 5c is for China only!

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iPhone 5c means China? No...un Apple like and the leaked instruction manuals where in Dutch I think. I think it's really obvious it's a China Mobile announcement and its a really huge thing for both apple and CM. the Chinese like in-person communication over informal announcements. This is really more for the Chinese to see how dedicated apple is to succeeding there and respecting their culture.
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Tim Cook sure is enamoured with that country.
You have no idea how important it is for Apple to thrive in China. China mobile has the largest subscription-base of any carrier, world-wide. To get even double digit % in that consumer-base is bigger than 100% of any one global carrier. This is huge!
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That makes sense. Stock is up over $12 pre market so Wall Street must be expecting a deal.

 

I don't see why Apple would go through the trouble of having a separate event if there wasn't a deal.

 

Anyway with China Mobile having 700 million subscribers, if Apple captured as little as 10% revenue would surge. Wall Street has a reason to celebrate, and now maybe the stock will have the valuation it deserves.

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I have a feeling the iPhone's 5 million in 3 days record is going to get smashed this year.

 

The biggest problem Apple will have this fall is how fast can they manufacture devices to meet demand. Monster holiday quarter coming right up.

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You have no idea how important it is for Apple to thrive in China. China mobile has the largest subscription-base of any carrier, world-wide. To get even double digit % in that consumer-base is bigger than 100% of any one global carrier. This is huge!

Yes, more whoring in a land of knock-off garbage that's later copied for government owned companies. Quite huge indeed.
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Tim Cook sure is enamoured with that country.

It's an emerging market.

 

Besides, isn't capitalism the best way to defeat communism?

There are probably no greater capitalists in the world today than the Chinese.

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As a Chinese speaker is difficult for me to picture Tim Cook speaking mandarin 0.0

Not sure why he would even try.
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There are probably no greater capitalists in the world today than the Chinese.

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

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How did you arrive at that conclusion?


They capitalize every word.

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You have no idea how important it is for Apple to thrive in China. China mobile has the largest subscription-base of any carrier, world-wide. To get even double digit % in that consumer-base is bigger than 100% of any one global carrier. This is huge!

How huge? China Mobile = 700 million subscribers. Just 5% of that = 35 million or just one quarter of iPhone sales worldwide.

Like I said before, one reason Samsung "ships" more phones, is because they have deals with  many more carriers worldwide than Apple does. In fact Apple is near to non-existent in India, which happens to be the world's second most populus nation with a rapidly growing middle-class.

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China Mobile = 700 million subscribers. Just 5% of that = 35 million or just one quarter of iPhone sales worldwide.

Just curious... what kinds of phones do people buy on China Mobile?

The iPhone 5C will be the cheapest new iPhone ever offered... but it will still be a rather expensive phone compared to other phones.

What I'm asking is... how many of those 700 million China Mobile subscribers buy phones at $400+ ?
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Hmm...I can't see Apple building a phone just for certain countries. Have they ever done anything like that before?

You're right and they don't have to now: the new Qualcom chip has the Chinese bands as well as the western ones all covered. Plus there are a lot of well to do Chinese for whom offering only a "cheap" phone would be an insult so the 5S will be sporting that chip and China compatible even were the "C" somehow targeted, which I doubt.

 

As to Tim: to make such a big deal out of it and then for him to NOT be there would be insulting as well. They were in charge of the timing so I expect it's doable for him to be in China live for the event.

 

On another note: Secrecy anyone? lol

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