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"well connected insider"? WTF? Why would you say such an asinine thing about Gruber? He lives on the wrong cost, is not connected with people at Apple, and is a paid mouthpiece, your competitor, in fact.

He's never given inside info, he just speculates and pretends like it's leaks. And you gotta be pretty ill informed to fall for it.

Everyone cited by AppleInsider is a "well informed insider." Even DigiTimes.

It's just like reality TV: everyone they interview is called an "expert." Even if they're just yokels running around the woods at night calling Bigfoots or plumbers who hunt for ghosts with some electricians' hardware. They're accredited by the Academy of I-made-this-up-ology.

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post #42 of 97
Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post
Exactly what the new 17-watt adapter could be used for remains unknown.

 

ARM-based MacBook Air?

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post #43 of 97
One brick to plug both your iPad and iPhone into. 12 + 5 = 17. Makes pretty good sense to me.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

 

 

Wait, so two USB ports on it? That seems dumb.

 

Yes, I have a bunch of Dual USB Chargers. They are wonderful especially with more than one device to charge. Just like Dual DC chargers in the car, when you have one plug.

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Out of curiosity (not to challenge you - I honestly don't know), how would they go about this considering the touch versus mouse dichotomy? A cursor on an iOS interface? Completely touch based? I'm intrigued by the latter, though I have reservations about the accuracy of the finger as a pointer when it comes to placing a cursor in a Pages/Word document...it's clumsy. I find that when I have to correct an error on an ipad or iphone, I have to delete the entire word most of the time. If an iOS laptop isn't marketed to the writer crowd, why bother with a laptop in the first place? If a keyboard provides enough utility to provoke Apple to create an iOS laptop, it seems they'd need to create a much easier way to place a cursor... Writing pages per day, it's certainly easier to place one with a mouse or a dedicated touch pad/arrow. When the original iPad came out I bought the keyboard with it, hoping I'd be able to set up impromptu offices and type away, but editing and inserting is far too slow for me.  I certainly want it to happen and want there to be a solution, but...I'm wondering whether others are seeing a solution that I don't, or if most people simply aren't concerned with editing what they write. But if that were true, like I said, why bother with a laptop?  Thoughts?

 

Apple has a strong stance on what should and shouldn't be touch-screen based. And I doubt they would put a touch screen on any "desktop" system - a computer meant to be used while set down on a surface.

 

There are two things to overcome when switching from a touch-based display to an external touch based device; absolute positioning and direct content manipulation. On the desktop, because of size constraints, pointer positioning is relative, meaning movement is tracked from its last location on the screen. "Hits" are also a secondary action - usually a button down. A touch event is no different to the system than a mouse down event - the difference is that mouse positioning is instantaneous on a touch screen and a separate action on an external input device. Positioning and "hitting" are one action on a touch screen display - breaking them out into two actions was figured out long ago.

 

Even on the Mac though, it knows the type of pointing device that is connected and changes its behavior accordingly... take scrolling; if a trackpad is connected, one finger to move the pointer, two to scroll. If a touch mouse is connected, move the mouse to position the pointer and one finger to scroll, if a regular (non-touch) mouse is connected, the scroll bars appear by default and use them to scroll the content.

 

 

OS X is already capable of dealing with different types of input devices and it would be trivial for Apple to add external input to iOS; throwing a "pointer" on the screen when an external pointing device is detected would be easy enough. Just as when an external keyboard is detected, the on screen keyboard is never brought up.

 

 

Apple took the time to do copy&paste right, they'll also figure out the best way to allow external input devices to connect to iOS devices and when they do, it won't be long before we see iOS on other computer form factors where touch screens won't be the best option.

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post #46 of 97
It could be um a slimmed down version of the Apple II e?
post #47 of 97
Just call it iPad Pro, it'll be just large then the old iPad with the new thiner bezel.
Be great for artist, designers with the increased screen size.
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edit: oops, someone else posted this same 2-outlet charger idea an hour ago...........
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post #49 of 97
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Originally Posted by djzapp View Post

This is a dual charger that apple will "officially support" 12W for iPad and 5W for iPhone = 17W. I can see this with all the "charger issues" as of late from third party Manufacturers.

I don't see the advantage. When you buy an iPhone or iPad, it comes with its own charger. Why not just plug them in side-by-side?
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Combo Apple TV/Cable box for Time Warner customers.

That would be nice, but 17 W seems pretty low. Existing cable boxes use a HUGE amount of power. The current Apple TV only uses 6W, so that would be almost 3 times as much, so maybe it would work.


IF this thing is real (which is a huge 'if' at this point), I don't know why they were so quick to drop the idea of a 13" iPad. For some applications, that would be even better than the 10". When the iPad first came out, I don't think anyone (outside of Apple, perhaps) envisioned that it could be used for the massive amount of content creation that is now possible. For some design work, a larger iPad would be nice. While it wouldn't have made sense to start out with multiple sizes, now that the market is well-established, a few sizes doesn't hurt.

Of course, it could also be my iPad Pro. 1smoking.gif
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post #50 of 97
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

I think the new iPads will charge faster because of this.

Faster charging would be a convenience feature.

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Yes, customers were demanding more power for their personal devices, and the new device will come in an array of colors...

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
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Wait, so two USB ports on it? That seems dumb.

 

Thanks for that; the stock sure needed a ton more pointless and obvious lies¡

Well I tend to have two chargers plugged into one of my convenient wall outlets charging my iPhone and iPad most every night and traveling sometimes there's only one outlet free without unplugging something in the hotel...

post #53 of 97
So they're designing a new power supply, well more power to them… 1embarassed.gif uff da
post #54 of 97
Sounds like an updated iPad charger with an extra USB port for charging your iPhone simultaneously. So many third party chargers have dual USB ports, the convenience factor is quite high. 12 W 5 W = 17 Watts
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Its for a bigger ipad imo, something in the 12" to 13" range.

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[Non sequitor.]

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post #57 of 97
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So they're designing a new power supply, well more power to them… 1embarassed.gif uff da

It's the device it's for.

I think a games machine.
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post #58 of 97

13" iPad Pro w/ pressure sensitive stylus.

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Originally Posted by msimpson View Post
 

Yes, customers were demanding more power for their personal devices, and the new device will come in an array of colors...

 

 

 

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Obviously another shoddy Samsung knockoff

post #60 of 97
I would _love_ a 13" iPad. (and buy one, if it wasn't too much. If it was too much, I'd ask for one for my birthday or something)
post #61 of 97
What kind of rumors is that?

"Whatever the mystery product is, there's also a possibility that it could never see the light of day outside of Apple's development labs."

Wow. What an article for nothing!
post #62 of 97

It points towards a newer Apple TV box. I can see Apple bringing out a box for total entertainment. Storage on board for PVR. Gaming. iTunes for films, TV and music. The lot... Makes much more sense than bringing out their own TV. I hope it has 4K capabilities and new AC wifi.
Imagine controlling all that lot from your phone, iPad etc.... 

post #63 of 97
An ARM MBA running iOS? /s

A 13" iPad would be cool but too large for my needs.

Too big for a portable iOS device and too small for an OSX device leads me to think this is for a set top box. The average cable box consumes around 30W all the time. It's well documented the cable box consumes a lot of energy annually. Given Apple's commitment to the environment and the Energy Star requirement is 45% more efficient than the average device I'm going to speculate a set top box. A box 45% more efficient would be about 14W.

That's not all good news.

If this is the case I can see Apple selling boxes only through cable companies. Just like Apple did with the iPhone Apple will change cable by manage the hardware and software which thankfully will include the UI. This means (1) you have a contract with a cable company and get a subsidized Apple set top box - most likely at an extra monthly fee that never goes away; or (2) no subsidy, so you never "own", the device and of course the monthly Apple tax.
post #64 of 97
So it's an adapter that can fully charge an iPad and an iPhone at the same time? 12 5=17
post #65 of 97
A new Device a bit more than a IPad, but like a third a MacBook Air, huh
post #66 of 97

13" iPad Max

post #67 of 97
Inductive charger for iWatches
post #68 of 97
I think it's just a new iPad power adapter to charge the units faster.
post #69 of 97
Obviously for a larger iOS device. Exactly what the device is remains to be seen.
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Yes, customers were demanding more power for their personal devices, and the new device will come in an array of colors...

 

 

 

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Wearable?

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"well connected insider"? WTF? Why would you say such an asinine thing about Gruber? He lives on the wrong cost, is not connected with people at Apple, and is a paid mouthpiece, your competitor, in fact.

He's never given inside info, he just speculates and pretends like it's leaks. And you gotta be pretty ill informed to fall for it.
 

Most (all?) of the time, he is quite upfront about speculating. He does have some good connections. To wit, when Apple launched Mountain Lion, instead of the usual special event, they invited a few tech journalists/bloggers to showcase the new OS in one-on-one presentations by Phil Schiller. Schiller would count as a connection, right? Gruber was one of the select few to meet him. To his credit, Gruber doesn't work these connections for leaks. I think this is because he doesn't have to. As a former developer, he has certain street cred already. So, he doesn't need to leak anything to build an audience.

 

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Here, I'll tell you what these parts are for: Its the power supply for the redesigned Airport Express.

I could pretend to know this from inside information and you would call me a "well connected insider"... but I'm more honest and I'll admit it's speculation.
 

Not a chance. For very simple engineering/design reasons.

post #72 of 97
Baytrail based device from Apple. Larger ipad with finder app to allow full os x apps? Not sure what the device will do, but expect it to be what Apple wanted to do 5 years ago when Intel wouldn't hit their power envelope for the iPad.
post #73 of 97
Apple PicoProjector / VideoProjector device.
with AirPlay.
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We´re in for a lot of surprise, remember Tim Cook said "we´re gonna have a busy fall" and "we´re introducing new categories"

 

I think they will announce at least 10 new products software and hardware on the 10th.

Surely you jest OR you are dreaming, unless you are counting a color variation as a different product. What would Apple have left to announce for 2014?

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post #75 of 97
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Surely you jest OR you are dreaming, unless you are counting a color variation as a different product. What would Apple have left to announce for 2014?

Sexbot
Big screen TV
Automobile controlled by iOS
Personal space ship with range and speed to carry you to Mars and back in 24 hours
Rosie robot (from the Jetsons) that does everything you'd ever want a personal assistant to do
Flying cars
And so on.

And if Apple fails to produce a single one of those before year end, the stock will plummet.
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post #76 of 97
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And if Apple fails to produce a single one of those before year end, the stock will plummet.

 

I don't see why all of you are that concerned about their stock price. It dipped into the $300s for a little while. If you were interested, you could have bought in at that time.

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Originally Posted by 9secondko View Post
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A 17 watt television? Great; it's 15 inches. :lol::lol:

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post #79 of 97

I know the answer!*

 

iPad Server.

 

Basically, it would be the size of two iPad minis, side by side.  You can open two apps at once (multitasking FTW!) or, in teacher mode, pull up a student's screen while other software runs on the other side.  Works as a server to provide specific content and offer a level of control for the client (student) iPads.  Dual processors, 128GB storage.  Book it.  Done.

 

*well, I made one up, which is the same thing in this game.

post #80 of 97
I'm gonna say it's for an iPhone or an iWatch (which would use a lightning cable to charge it)

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