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Oh Jeez! I wonder where they got this ground breaking innovative idea from!? /s

 

You know when the world see's companies like Samsung come out with such design, they realize the beauty and creative thinking that goes into Apple products.

It's a shame trying to compare there products with that of Apple's. Total Shame.

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The Galaxy Gear seems to be better than the prototype, but not enough to make it good.  I'm not sure how anyone could say that they're ripping off Apple on this one as Apple doesn't yet have a smart watch and I don't think Apple would release a watch like this (I suppose time will tell).  To me, Samsung appears to be trying to do too much with the Galaxy Gear.  The only relation I can see with it to Apple products is that the Galaxy Gear will only work with other Samsung devices.  Creating a device that won't work outside of their ecosystem is certainly a risky move for Samsung.

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USPTO publishes Samsung patent application for embedded fingerprint sensor

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May 27, 2013 - 

Last week, an image was recovered deep from within Samsung Galaxy S3 firmware files which hinted at an embedded fingerprint sensor in upcoming devices and now, the USPTO has published a patent application from Samsung which seems to confirm the biometric integration.

The patent, published last week, was filed 16 months ago to the USPTO, and suggests the fingerprint sensor integration described could be either a contact or swipe sensor. The patent was also filed in November 2011 in the Korean Intellectual Property Office. Though the patent outlines the fingerprint in the home button, it also notes that it would be located on the side of the device.

Reported last week, according to a tip sent in to SamMobile, a recovered image from GS3 firmware files showed vague plans for a fingerprint-based security system.

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We're on a pro-Apple website, you fool. Open your eyes.

 

And how is it a double standard if they're lying and we're not?

 

Thanks. You just showed me the real essence of what being an Apple fan is all about. No wonder this site is frowned by many. This site is way too biased, as Tallest Skil glady pointed out, to be called a "rumor and news website on everything apple (including Samsung because ya know...we need page clicks) since 1997".

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The Galaxy Gear seems to be better than the prototype, but not enough to make it good.  I'm not sure how anyone could say that they're ripping off Apple on this one as Apple doesn't yet have a smart watch and I don't think Apple would release a watch like this (I suppose time will tell).  To me, Samsung appears to be trying to do too much with the Galaxy Gear.  The only relation I can see with it to Apple products is that the Galaxy Gear will only work with other Samsung devices.  Creating a device that won't work outside of their ecosystem is certainly a risky move for Samsung.

 

I think the iPod nano which could be strapped to the hand looked better than this one.

And there watch is compatible with a hand few of there devices as shown in the image below.

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The Galaxy Gear seems to be better than the prototype, but not enough to make it good.  I'm not sure how anyone could say that they're ripping off Apple on this one as Apple doesn't yet have a smart watch and I don't think Apple would release a watch like this (I suppose time will tell).  To me, Samsung appears to be trying to do too much with the Galaxy Gear.  The only relation I can see with it to Apple products is that the Galaxy Gear will only work with other Samsung devices.  Creating a device that won't work outside of their ecosystem is certainly a risky move for Samsung.

 

Galazy Gear is an overpriced ugly accessory.

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This site is way too biased

 

Get over it. You think Android websites aren't biased? You think Microsoft sites aren't biased? Is there something difficult to comprehend about this? Come on, man.

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post #88 of 112
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I think the iPod nano which could be strapped to the hand looked better than this one.

And there watch is compatible with a hand few of there devices as shown in the image below.

 

It's because most of their devices don't have Bluetooth 4.0. Actually most Androids don't have it, so watch accessories are non-starters on Android.

post #89 of 112

No fingerprint sensor in the Note 3. This is entire thread is moot. Move along...

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What the heck is that attached to the bottom of the watch? Is it like an extended battery? haha.

Curious now as this is how the watch looks like:

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When you do a little research in Validity's fingerprint reader, it APPEARS to be a LOT like Authentec's technology at least at the hardware level.  They both purport to use RF to "read" the skin layer(s) beneath the dead exterior fingerprint.  Validity's devices all seem to be swipe readers while Authentec's appeared to have sufficient resolution to NOT require reading a large area of the finger to get a unique biometric signature. This HIGH imaging resolution was one of the key items noted about the Authentec technology when Apple purchased them.  Now how these two companies could diverge significantly is the software that handles the electronic signature and that would be where Apple typically shines.  

Regardless, IF the competition has teamed up with Validity, they would seem to be in the same general game as what Apple is purported to be readying for rollout, rather than some very lame, craptastic reader as seen in other devices.

And finally, as has been pointed out, Apple has a MASSIVE infrastructure and millions of credit-card-on-file clients already in place with iTunes that could easily be expanded to things OUTSIDE of Apple purchases, which is something ALL the competition lacks at the moment.

If you did research you would have found that Swedish Company Fingerprint Cards is the only Company so far to have won multiple design wins (+20) from phone and tablet producers of which 3 is already launched this quarter (Konka, Pantech and Fujitsu Disney) and the only company apart from Auth. To have an Area sensor optimized for mobile devices. Validity showed a very early prototype on a Microsoft Security event earlier this summer whereas Fingerprint Cards showed a working sensor and got most attention and promotion.

Compared to Validity and another competitor Idex FPC is the only company with working sensors (both swipe and areasensor) ready for mass production (Validity had quality issues that caused Samsung to drop their sensor earlier this year).

Take a look at fingerprints.com for more research.
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You just showed me the real essence of what being an Apple fan is all about. 

You forgot one important aspect...

 

​This would be considered the most beautiful piece of engineering in the world.

It is so revolutionary and innovative that it will "heal the sick and feed the poor" :lol::lol:

post #93 of 112
Wait... It only works on their devices? Screw Samsung and their closed system. Androids supposed to be open, open, open. /s Lol
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The watches released today underscore how much Apple's designs dictate the direction of the tech industry.  Without an innovative model to work from, these companies produce products that are, at best, expected.  At worst, they seem to be kludgy product extensions with marginal utility.  However, many online commenters seem willing to give Samsung a pass because this is a first-generation product (i.e., no Apple device to copy...yet).

 

I watched the "hands-on" video that Gizmodo featured, and was baffled at the awkwardness with which the user tried to navigate.  Granted, he was demoing a brand new product, but the number and nuance of the gestures required seem daunting.  Based on my experience with the iPod Nano, I'd say that a screen of that size is not well suited for interfaces that need fine motor skills to navigate.

 

After today's releases, the biggest question for wearable tech remains: why would people buy this stuff?  

 

I wonder if Apple knows.

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I think the iPod nano which could be strapped to the hand looked better than this one.
And there watch is compatible with a hand few of there devices as shown in the image below.


ROTFLMAO.

So 'cross-compatiblity' means that it works with several different Samsung Galaxy devices? Why not just admit that it's a closed ecosystem. There's nothing inherently bad about being closed, but being closed and pretending that you're open is disingenuous.
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post #96 of 112
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The Galaxy Gear seems to be better than the prototype, but not enough to make it good.  I'm not sure how anyone could say that they're ripping off Apple on this one as Apple doesn't yet have a smart watch and I don't think Apple would release a watch like this (I suppose time will tell).  To me, Samsung appears to be trying to do too much with the Galaxy Gear.  The only relation I can see with it to Apple products is that the Galaxy Gear will only work with other Samsung devices.  Creating a device that won't work outside of their ecosystem is certainly a risky move for Samsung.

But NOT with their flagship Galaxy 4?

 

How do you let that out of the mix?

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But NOT with their flagship Galaxy 4?

 

How do you let that out of the mix?

 

I can't figure out what it is you're asking me.  If you're asking me a question you'll have to be more clear.

post #98 of 112
I hope Samsung spends tens of millions of dollars advertising this. They won't sell very many, but they will plant the idea in people's minds that a wrist-wearable device might be useful. Then when Apple releases something superior, there will be instant acceptance and demand.
post #99 of 112

Fingerprint sensor didn't happen.  

post #100 of 112
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I can't figure out what it is you're asking me.  If you're asking me a question you'll have to be more clear.

Im thinking he meant that the Watch only works as a companion with the Note 3. Wont work with the S4 as a companion.

post #101 of 112
6 days before apple (possibly) releases there's probably means apple have better one released first, Samsung releases galaxy S5 with 5.2-5 inch screen and more junk than ever (including this) and 20 things filed for lawsuit for apple technology being ran through the scanners (3d), Samsung claims this patent before iPhone release of it, Everybody gets punished...
post #102 of 112

If you squint really hard the watch looks alot like the old nano on a strap

post #103 of 112
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If a fingerprint sensor appeared in a movie from 40 years ago, it's prior art. Therefore, Samsung wins.

way oversimplified.   yes, as to the concept of fingerprint scanning for security, which is clearly in the public realm.  no as to the specific technology used.  

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What the heck is that attached to the bottom of the watch? Is it like an extended battery? haha.

Curious now as this is how the watch looks like:

 

Your right.. That's something fishy going on then. Coz the screen shot above was from the exhibition happening at the Unpacked 2013 event. They have an additional metal layer on the top photograph. Prolly a larger batter, so it doesn't run out of juice at the event :D

post #105 of 112
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Your right.. That's something fishy going on then. Coz the screen shot above was from the exhibition happening at the Unpacked 2013 event. They have an additional metal layer on the top photograph. Prolly a larger batter, so it doesn't run out of juice at the event :D

 

I think it's an anti-theft attachment.  The hands-on videos sure make it look that way.


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Originally Posted by DroidFTW View Post

I think it's an anti-theft attachment.

 

WOW, that's idiotic, then. They've completely ruined the experience of wearing the device for thousands (which turns into millions by report and word of mouth), and by the time they correct the misconception, no one will give a frick.

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post #107 of 112
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I can't figure out what it is you're asking me.  If you're asking me a question you'll have to be more clear.

Rhetorical use of the question mark. The Gear does NOT work with the S4 (and that's odd) and it's a huge puzzler why the flagship device wouldn't be paired right out of the gate with the new gadget.

post #108 of 112
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I think it's an anti-theft attachment.  The hands-on videos sure make it look that way.

 

It's not an "anti-theft attachement", it's a metal clasp with a speaker in it. This video explains it:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/4/4692824/samsung-galaxy-gear-features-specs-release-date-price#ooid=Jta3Y1ZTqZ02Xk-tdzg-cLd2pAvNYPlc

Still looks like crap, though.

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post #109 of 112

hehehehehe

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Wait... It only works on their devices? Screw Samsung and their closed system. Androids supposed to be open, open, open. /s Lol

 

Android's open-ness means that OEMs have the right to install proprietary apps and interfaces on Android...

 

Of course, it would be nice if Samsung made some of their apps available on the Play store...

post #111 of 112
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Rhetorical use of the question mark. The Gear does NOT work with the S4 (and that's odd) and it's a huge puzzler why the flagship device wouldn't be paired right out of the gate with the new gadget.

That's attributed to the current S3 and S4 (except for the S4 Google Edition) not having native OS support for Bluetooth LE which the Samsung smartwatch uses. Because of that Samsung is being uncharacteristically quick to announce they'll be updating both of those devices to Jelly Bean 4.3 in the next few weeks, an Android version that does bake it in.

Obviously the OEM's can move faster on OS updates when they're motivated. 1hmm.gif
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Originally Posted by Noor Awan View Post
hehehehehe

 

Still laughing now that it didn't happen?

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