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Originally Posted by AnalogJack View Post
 

Let's acknowledge that without Apple there would be no Samsung smartphone, or Phablet. Apple singlehandedly created an entire new genre of objects. All the infrastructure was already there but no one knew how to make it work. Without iOS, Android would not have been invented.

 

Originally Posted by andrzejls View Post
 

What AnalogJack was referring was the OS not Smartphone. So since iOS is UNIX based, it did not have any role/influence in development of Android. Stating that if not for iOS Android would not exist is not correct.

did you read AnalogJack he clearly mentioned  smartphone.... and my point is that without IOS and the iPhone, Android would not have been hijacked from a camera OS, into an OS for smartphones. There would have been a linux/unix or whatver based smartphone OS eventually, but who knows when it would have been invented/delveloped if it were not for Jobs & Apple

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Originally Posted by wakefinance View Post
 

Apple has not made innovative software additions since Siri, which was quickly surpassed by Google Now in almost every way.

 

Apple didn't make Siri.  Apple purchased Siri and took over development.

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post #123 of 132
Hey,

What i expect them to eventually do is have a line up where the cheapest iPhone will have a 4 inch screen and a normal iPhone will have a 4.5 inch- 4.7 inch screen next year (maybe the iPhone 6), then they will release a 'Phablet' iPhone that will have a 5.5 inch.

If we have a look back at old Apple products ( http://www.technologeek.net/a-look-back-at-apple-products-of-old/), we can clearly see that the more an Apple device is recent, the more the screen is bigger. This is why I think that the next iPhone could have a bigger screen 1wink.gif

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post #124 of 132
Originally Posted by wakefinance View Post
Apple has not made innovative software additions since Siri, which was quickly surpassed by Google Now in almost every way.

 

Hey, thanks for the lies.

 

Originally Posted by DroidFTW View Post
Apple didn't make Siri. Apple purchased Siri and took over development.

 

Gotta give that a 4/10; you can do better than that.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

 

Samsung is copying LG by making a refrigerator.

Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a refrigerator.

Samsung is copying Smeg by making a refrigerator.

Samsung is copying GE by making a refrigerator.

Samsung is copying KitchenAid by making a refrigerator.

Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a refrigerator.

Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a refrigerator.

Samsung is copying LG by making a microwave.

Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a microwave.

Samsung is copying GE by making a microwave.

Samsung is copying KitchenAid by making a microwave.

Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a microwave.

Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a microwave.

Samsung is copying Sharp by making a microwave.

Samsung is copying Maytag by making a microwave.

Samsung is copying Electrolux by making a microwave.

Samsung is copying Apple by making a laptop.

Samsung is copying Dell by making a laptop.

Samsung is copying HP by making a laptop.

Samsung is copying Acer by making a laptop.

Samsung is copying NEC by making a laptop.

Samsung is copying Sony by making a laptop.

Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a laptop.

Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.

Samsung is copying RIM by making a phone.

Samsung is copying Motorola by making a phone.

Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.

Samsung is copying Nokia by making a phone.

Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.

Samsung is copying GE by making a washing machine.

Samsung is copying Maytag by making a washing machine.

Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a washing machine.

Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a washing machine.

Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a washing machine.

Samsung is copying Miele by making a washing machine.

Samsung is copying Electrolux by making a washing machine.

Samsung is copying Westinghouse by making a TV.

Samsung is copying Sony by making a TV.

Samsung is copying Sharp by making a TV.

Samsung is copying LG by making a TV.

Samsung is copying Vizio by making a TV.

Samsung is copying Fujitsu by making a TV.

Samsung is copying JVC by making a TV.

Samsung is copying Philips by making a TV.

Samsung is copying Sanyo by making a TV.

Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a TV.

Samsung is copying Kodak by making a camera.

Samsung is copying Nikon by making a camera.

Samsung is copying Canon by making a camera.

Samsung is copying Sony by making a camera.

Samsung is copying GE by making a camera.

Samsung is copying Casio by making a camera.

Samsung is copying Apex by making a DVD player.

Samsung is copying Sony by making a DVD player.

Samsung is copying GE by making a DVD player.

Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a DVD player.

 

The list goes on, but Huddler wanted to submit it without my say-so.

 

See, they weren't first to do any of those things. Or maybe there's something more to the situation than your pathetic statement of "Apple is copying Samsung". Now be quiet.

 

You hilariously proved that, according to your own standards, all of Apple's products are copies.  Maybe not their original computer.

 

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Hey, thanks for the lies.

 

 

What was a lie?  That Apple hasn't put innovative software into iOS since Siri?  Or that Siri was quickly surpassed by Google Now in usefulness?  I'd like you to give reasons or examples for whichever one it is.

post #126 of 132
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Since Samsung are widely credited with inventing the phablet form factor I don't hold high hopes that you're going to rise to the task.

"Invent" is not the word I'd use. All Sammy did was add a diagonal inch to an existing shape. Are you gonna credit LG for "inventing" a 60" TV? Or another company for making a taller fridge?
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Originally Posted by jungmark View Post
Or another company for making a taller fridge?

 

You don't see many people clamoring for a 12' fridge. Maybe Samsung should pretend they know what we want and make one.

post #128 of 132
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"Invent" is not the word I'd use. All Sammy did was add a diagonal inch to an existing shape. Are you gonna credit LG for "inventing" a 60" TV? Or another company for making a taller fridge?

 

Don't forget the stylus!  That makes the Note a unique product.

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Originally Posted by zippy2shoes View Post

I just want to point out that the whole lack of buttons and gestures is already being done and it is not new.  Samsung has some gestures currently in their Android implementation (It is called TouchWiz - not  fan of this one - I prefer HTC's "Sense" version) and the bezel disappearing is practically here and has been for some time in the Android market.

Also note that Google's recommendation (for some time) is that there are no physical buttons and that they be replaced by virtual buttons (which I've had on my phone for nearly 2 years).  


I think the largest problem on this site is that the vocal minority shout down anyone who tries to show what most people know:  Apple has fallen behind and they need to get back in the game.  You can dicker on word definitions about what is 'copying' or cry about how some companies mimicked/copied/were inspired by another UI but when it comes down to it, people should be concerned that they are getting a great product for what they are paying for it.  Especially if you are paying a premium for said phone.

There is no point debating with people who use dictionaries to make their points because they are missing the big picture which is this:   Apple designed something great with the iPhone. Acknowledged.  They lead the pack for a few years but are now so focused on suing people and calling out others that they have gone away from what they used to do best.  They are also too proud to admit mistakes and as a result they have been slow to keep up with the market.   "People don't want a 7 inch tablet", "4 inch phone is the optimal size", "We don't want multiple versions of our phones".. blah blah.. I'm paraphrasing yet but the point is Apple has gone back on every single one of these statements and they are going to do more.   I suspect they will finally cave on their "our keyboard is perfect" statement because let's face it, it is painful to use an iPhone to type after you've used Swype or another similar keyboard.

Apple needs to compete and they first have to catch up where they are deficient and due to the fierce competition on the Android + BB and WP, they have a tough job in front of them.  Apple is not going to the first to release the flex displays because it will be LG or Samsung.  Apple may beat everyone with the first projector enabled phone but that  is up in the air.

I ask only that you try to look at the technology objectively.  We've all been wrong in our lives and will be again but you need to admit when you are wrong.  Apple will release a larger iPhone and just like you were all wrong about the iPhone 5c ("It will never happen", "that's not Apple!", etc...), you will be wrong on this and you will continue to put down smart and insightful people on this site.

It's so refreshing to read an intelligent and articulate post.

With more posters like you, we might just salvage this site for those who are genuinely interested in intelligent debate about Apple products and the tech industry.
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post #130 of 132
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Originally Posted by blackbook View Post

If I remember correctly Palm was the first post-iPhone smartphone to use an entirely touch sensitive front panel that surrounded their multitouch screen?
 

 

A novel concept is one that no one else has conceived of before you. I doubt no one has thought of adding touch detection to an entire front panel. It's more a design decision rather than an innovation.

 

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Anyway my point was with the screen tech available today Apple is likely planning on completely overturning the market with their larger iPhone.

It won't look like an HTC or Samsung. It will be the ultimate minimalist look with no buttons or distractions at the front of the phone.
 

I agree that, if Apple goes the big screen route, they will do it differently. But I am not sure about doing away with buttons and *distractions*. For one thing, the home button is now a fingerprint scanner. For another, some of those so-called distractions include a front camera, microphone and speaker, all of which are best located on the front. Finally, to repeat myself, making the front nothing but a touchscreen is a design decision and not an innovation, unless you can think of a heretofore unheard of application that can only work with *no distraction*.

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Originally Posted by jungmark View Post

"Invent" is not the word I'd use. All Sammy did was add a diagonal inch to an existing shape. Are you gonna credit LG for "inventing" a 60" TV? Or another company for making a taller fridge?
I think there's an interesting distinction to be made, and it's not unlike the problem that some people had with the iPad, saying it was just a big iPod touch. In a sense that's right, it is, and the Note is just a big Galaxy S, or just a small Galaxy Tab, but the size difference means a substantial difference in how the thing is used. I'm not a particular fan of the phablet size but clearly it does allow for some use cases that put it as a happy medium between phone and tablet. The large-ish screen allows for dual-apps on screen, a better canvas for using the stylus for annotation, a better reading environment than a phone, with more portability than the tablet, and probably more (ask someone who has one for more, I'm no expert). Disagree with the specifics if you want, but many would disagree with you, so I think that, and the sales, and the many criticisms of Apple's absence from the phablet space makes it worthy of some credit.

Maybe it's just a fortuitous effect of a try-every-size strategy, but how Samsung got there isn't particularly important. They are there and they are generally accepted as being the first there, which is what counts.

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I've been anticipating a gap-filling 6" device from Apple for some time. The "iPad Nano" perhaps?

Eventually: 13" iPad "Pro", 10" iPad, 8" iPad Mini, 6" iPad "Nano" (hybrid phone/pad?), 4" iPhone, 4" iPod Touch%u2026

That 6" middle-ground device could incorporate their evolving voice-based communication (FaceTime, now with the Audio-only feature coming with iOS7), or provide a cellular-based voice option. Either way, between FaceTime and Skype, not much prevents a person from using any iOS device as a 'phone'. Perhaps this will take that further.

By the time it might release, I also see no reason to need to put it up to your head (like a handset). Headphones, bluetooth headset, speaker%u2026 for some even a 'smart watch' option might work. Plenty of options to easily imagine there.

I like the potential in any case!

 

Also a 2'' watch, and a 27'' tablet for artists and managers (you have to see all these rows in Excel for iPad), and of course the 200'' Apple iSurface. Totally agree. /s

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

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Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

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