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WSJ: Apple preparing 'iPhone 5C' shipments for China Mobile, hints at new deal

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Apple is reportedly set to ship a rumored less-expensive version of the iPhone to China Mobile, indicating that the two companies have finally signed an agreement that could see the iPhone access the world's largest cellular carrier's over 700 million subscribers.

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Rendering of iPhone 5C in white. | Source: AppleInsider


Citing people familiar with the matter, The Wall Street Journal on Friday reported Apple is prepping shipments of a low-cost iPhone, dubbed by many as the "iPhone 5C," to China Mobile, suggesting the Cupertino, Calif., company has finally reached an agreement with the Chinese telecom.

While an official signed agreement has not yet been announced, Apple's planned shipments strongly suggest a deal was reached after years of negotiations.

The sources say Apple asked partner supplier Foxconn to add China Mobile to the list of iPhone 5C recipients, though not much else is known about the purported plan. It is unknown if the carrier will be part of a launch expected to happen toward the end of September, but news of the deal may be announced at Apple's Sept. 10 media event.

A report on Thursday claimed current Apple partner carriers China Telecom and China Unicom would be taking receipt of both the iPhone 5C and the flagship "iPhone 5S" variant for a Sept. 20 release. China Mobile was said to be waiting in the wings and could debut the iPhone on its network as soon as November.

Apple will be holding a special event in the U.S. on Sept. 10, to be followed hours later by a separate event for China media.
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Try to act surprised on Sept 10.

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

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"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

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The rumor mill has taken all the fun out of Apple keynotes. Guaranteed to disappoint the pundits. Just you wait.

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

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Today the "C" means China. I wonder what it will be tomorrow.
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This will be huge for Apple! I think I read somewhere that China Mobile has a 3G penetration rate of around 30%, giving Apple a shot at nearly 200 million new potential customers. Can't wait to watch the the presser on Tuesdat!
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Absolutely so.  Watch AAPL tank on this news!

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The rumor mill has taken all the fun out of Apple keynotes. Guaranteed to disappoint the pundits. Just you wait.

 

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Absolutely so.  Watch AAPL tank on this news!

 

Why do we care so much what pundits and Wall Streeters think, and how the shares are doing? This seems to dominate the discussions herein. Isn't it more interesting to talk about technology and products?

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I can't wait to see what 'global' (which essentially means, 'with' as opposed to 'without' China) smartphone market shares look like one year from now.

 

 

Sammy is in for a very nasty surprise.

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Why do we care so much what pundits and Wall Streeters think, and how the shares are doing? 

I guess we're all investors now, not just consumers.... :\

 

But bragging rights too, I suppose.

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Why do we care so much what pundits and Wall Streeters think, and how the shares are doing? This seems to dominate the discussions herein. Isn't it more interesting to talk about technology and products?

 



Many of us here are stockholders. Most are long-term stockholders, but I have seen the posts of those I'd guess were day traders.

Speaking of which, it's interesting the stock hasn't exploded on the China Mobile rumor... Probably just a precursor to another massive short.

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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Try to act surprised on Sept 10.

 

Funny! Best post!

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Given that there are surely an immense number of well to do people amongst that 700 million subscriber base it would be a severe mistake to solely or even mostly offer a lower priced model to China Mobile subscribers.

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Today the "C" means China. I wonder what it will be tomorrow.

 

"Classic"?

 

I happen to hate the numbering. Much prefer the Macbook system: "Early 2011", "Air" or whatever, same with iPods.

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Given that there are surely an immense number of well to do people amongst that 700 million subscriber base it would be a severe mistake to solely or even mostly offer a lower priced model to China Mobile subscribers.

If the C works, so will the S, I am guessing. It probably won't be subsidized, that's all.

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Given that there are surely an immense number of well to do people amongst that 700 million subscriber base it would be a severe mistake to solely or even mostly offer a lower priced model to China Mobile subscribers.

Yes, except if new stories are to be believed, a lessor expensive model is a precursor for a China Mobile deal. This likely is to make up for China Mobile wanting to pay Apple less. 

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Now Bloomberg says a deal hasn't been finalized yet and won't be announced next week. LOL
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The rumor mill has taken all the fun out of Apple keynotes. Guaranteed to disappoint the pundits. Just you wait.

 

It's not the "rumor mill", it's the big news outlets that report the rumors as facts. I can't tell you how many times people come up to me (they know I'm an Apple person) and say, "Have you heard about the new phone Apple came out with?" Then they go on to list features that don't apply to any current Apple phone. I quickly correct them that it's only a rumor and Apple hasn't announced or released anything yet. Then they argue, "Yes they have, I heard it on such-and-such news."

 

It's getting old.

 

It's fun to guess what's coming, as long as you keep an open mind and don't carried away in all the rumors and speculation. Honestly, I've never been disappointed with any of their keynotes and product announcements, they're always fun and usually interesting.

 

So having said all of that, my guess, in order of likely hood...

 

1. The "C" stands for COLOR. This is the most obvious.

 

2. The "C" stands for CLOUD. Along with an iTunes account, it will require users to sign up for an iCloud account. The phone will have minimal internal storage (8GB, maybe 16GB) keeping costs down and carriers happy with all the data usage from users using iCloud for more and more storage.

 

3. The "C" stands for CHINA. This new iPhone 5C is a model made specifically for China Mobile, featuring built-in apps and services for the carrier. Apple only made 6 million original iPhones - there is far, far more potential sales with China Mobile. I'm guessing in a year Apple will have sold 50+ million iPhones on this carrier alone.

 

4. The "C" stands for COMMERCIALS. For the lower price of the phone, Apple will subject users to ads in each of its stores: AppStore, iTunes, iBookStore, Apple Store, etc., and possibly even inject ads into Mobile Safari.


Edited by mjtomlin - 9/6/13 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post

It's not the "rumor mill", it's the big news outlets that report the rumors as facts. I can't tell you how many times people come up to me (they know I'm an Apple person) and say, "Have you heard about the new phone Apple came out with?" Then they go on to list features that don't apply to any current Apple phone. I quickly correct them that it's only a rumor and Apple hasn't announced or released anything yet. Then they argue, "Yes they have, I heard it on such-and-such news."

 

It's getting old.

 

It's fun to guess what's coming, as long as you keep an open mind and don't carried away in all the rumors and speculation. Honestly, I've never been disappointed with any of their keynotes and product announcements, they're always fun and usually interesting.

 

I propose this quote be auto-posted in every rumor thread.

 

2. The "C" stands for CLOUD. Along with an iTunes account, it will require users to sign up for an iCloud account.

 

I don't think that's legal, is it? And the two accounts are the same.

 
 4. The "C" stands for COMMERCIALS. For the lower price of the phone, Apple will subject users to ads in each of its "stores"; AppStore, iTunes, iBookStore, Apple Store, etc., and possibly even inject ads into Mobile Safari.

 

This is from the timelines where Hitler won. :lol:

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The rumor mill has taken all the fun out of Apple keynotes. Guaranteed to disappoint the pundits. Just you wait.

And the fact that we constantly read the rumors from the mill.
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The C is for COOK. The 4S was Siri / Steve. The 5C is for China / Tim.
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The C stands for cook lol!

 

Here are a few more possibilities:

 

The C stands for CANDY (because the new phones and OS look like colorful candy crush Skittles)

 

The C stands for CAN'T TOUCH US WE'RE GONNA SELL 700 MILLION IPHONES IN CHINA MOTHER *****RS

 

The C stands for CRUNCH ON THAT, KIT KAT!   HA!

 

The C stands for CRUSHING IT IN CHINA

 

What I hate about the damn analysts squawking, is that they're going to build up impossible expectations of Apple selling a quadrillion phones in the last days of the quarter.

 

Watch the "market" be "disappointed" that Apple "only" doubled their market share in a month.

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I don't think that's legal, is it? And the two accounts are the same.

 

Not sure why it wouldn't be legal? If the service is considered essential to the operation of the device, functionality would be greatly diminished if you chose not to sign up for it. Therefor, it would be required if you wanted all the advertised features.

 

iCloud and iTunes accounts are not the same. iCloud is a services account, iTunes is a content account and there are separate places for entering each, however, they can share the same log in credentials.

 

 

From Apple's support page...

 

"When you set up your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch, you can use the same Apple ID for iCloud services and purchases on the iTunes Store, App Store, and iBooks Store. You can also use one Apple ID for iCloud services and another Apple ID for store purchases (including iTunes in the Cloud and iTunes Match). You will get all the benefits of iCloud whether you use the same Apple ID for iCloud and store purchases, or different IDs for each."

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Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post

iCloud and iTunes accounts are not the same.

 

iCloud accounts are iTunes accounts. There's absolutely no point to signing up for both when you're forced to sign up for iCloud.

 

The only reason to have two accounts is if you had the latter before iCloud existed, since we can't merge them yet.

Originally posted by Relic

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