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post #41 of 165
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America gets the iPhone 5c for $99 (£63), we get it for £469 ($738). They have just made a lot of Brits their enemies now. Rip Off. This is an insult to Apple's British customers.

 

That's $99 with 2 year contract. And that's £469 without contract, which is still high but cheaper than in Germany! It's 599 EURO, versus 556 EURO in UK.

post #42 of 165
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That price is surprisingly high for a contract.  I was expecting $0 for the base model.  They may have increased the carrier profit so that the carriers may opt to do it for $0 but otherwise the C is not going to be a big hit.

 

Why? They've NEVER dropped the second tier model to zero. The C is the 5 replacement to get the world radio across more of the line alongside the 5S.

post #43 of 165
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Great. But I already have a 4S. I wanted an off contract phone.

 

Would have been better if they offered a 399 EURO 5C in one color (white) 8GB model, and dropped the 4S. I guess I have to wait another 6-12 months before they do.

post #44 of 165
Surprised they didn't make the 5C the low tier device. I was certain the whole purpose was to get rid of the 4S and standardise around the 4" display.

5C > 5 > 5S would have been a clear lineup in my opinion. The 5C is a somewhat questionable replacement for the 5. It's thicker and plastic for starters.
post #45 of 165

The unlocked iPhone 5C in the UK is 16GB: £469 ($737.22 USD)  and 32GB: £549 ($862.97 USD). Yikes! This is *not* a cheap phone by any measure!

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Surprised they didn't make the 5C the low tier device. I was certain the whole purpose was to get rid of the 4S and standardise around the 4" display.

5C > 5 > 5S would have been a clear lineup in my opinion. The 5C is a somewhat questionable replacement for the 5. It's thicker and plastic for starters.

 

Problem then would be: What's the difference between the 5C and the 5? One is plastic and the other is not. Everything else is the same, so differentiation is minimal. And Apple doesn't want plastic to be regarded as inferior. Better to have 8GB base model 5C -- but we have to wait another 6-12 months for that to happen.

post #47 of 165
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Normal tactics would have been to offer the "old" 5 for this price, which would have been a great deal, but now they keep the price and downgrade the offering from a 5 to a 5C

I agree. They should have kept iPhone 5 at $99 on contract with 5c free on contract. I think many who would have bought iphone 5 at $99 will not want 5c at that price. Also disappointed with only 8gb option for 4S.
post #48 of 165
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Problem then would be: What's the difference between the 5C and the 5? One is plastic and the other is not. Everything else is the same, so differentiation is minimal. And Apple doesn't want plastic to be regarded as inferior. Better to have 8GB base model 5C -- but we have to wait another 6-12 months for that to happen.

 

But it is inferior and peoples expectations were that with old 5 innards and plastic case we would see a significant price reduction.

post #49 of 165
Unlocked 5C will be $550 and $650. Where are the savings? That's what the iPhone 5 would have cost as the middle tier. So this is just a margin-building exercise? Then why is stock tanking? How are China and India going to afford these "cheap" phone off contract?
post #50 of 165

Those pastel colors are painful. They could have at least offered a black or dark gray color choice.

post #51 of 165
Disappointed by the price of the 5c. We don't want to be "stuck" with a 3-years contract (in Canada...). I'll forget about the idea of getting an iPhone as I don't expect Apple price policy to change. Unless I go with the 4s, but without contract it's costly for a 2 years old phone.

I somewhat understand their logic to not "hurt" the 5S (very nice by the way), but I would have liked to have the feeling that Apple cares about people who don't have big needs. I suppose they think that the can go have an Android phone, what might happen for me (never thought I could think that). Well, in the end, disappointed.
post #52 of 165

A little more aggressive price strategy would be great, like when they surprised us with $499 for the iPad; everyone was expecting $999. But in Asia, Apple can't go too low a price, because it will diminish the brand -- sounds funny but is true. Still, I desperately wanted an entry level 5C at 399 EURO. I don't want 30 pin connector or the 3.5 inch screen in the iphone line-up; it's not even in the iPod touch lineup.

post #53 of 165
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Those pastel colors are painful. They could have at least offered a black or dark gray color choice.

 

I'm not getting the cases either. Damn fugly IMO.

post #54 of 165
Frankly I am not all that impressed with the 5c or even the 5s for that matter, but anyone who thinks that the 5c is not going to be a big seller in the US is fooling themselves. Now that its comes in a wide array of candy like colors tweens and teenagers are going to bugging their parent's crazy to finally get them an iPhone. And at $99 (contract price) it going to be hard for parents to say no.
post #55 of 165

The iPhone 5C is not a cheap phone by any standard. How long can Apple go on pricing iPhones based on storage capacity... Will be getting a 5S upgrade from my 4S on contract hopefully :)

Unlocked iPhone prices from Apple HK Site (Non contract)

 

iPhone 5S 64GB $7188 HKD   = $926.98 USD

iPhone 5S 32GB $6388 HKD   = $823.81 USD
iPhone 5S 16GB $5588 HKD   = $720.64 USD

iPhone 5C 32GB $5588 HKD   = $720.64 USD
iPhone 5C 16GB $4688 HKD   = $604.57 USD

post #56 of 165
Change you title, it isn't red, it's pink.
post #57 of 165

I can't believe it's not slightly cheaper. I guess there's a method to the madness, but this is not a cheap phone for emerging markets. 

 

Though it's still entirely possible they'll have a td-lte version that is slightly cheaper for the China market. 

post #58 of 165

The 5¢  is indeed desperately cheap and stupid-looking for a grown consumer, it's however the precise hit when it comes to younger audience. The thing is in perfect accord with the childish experience of the iOS 7.

Apple is still unbeatable in search for new markets. ;)

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post #59 of 165
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But it is inferior and peoples expectations were that with old 5 innards and plastic case we would see a significant price reduction.

 

I agree, but it's not want Apple wants to communicate, obviously. If they are going to use plastic in iPhones in the future, they want to make it appear something "high grade" now. :) So they have to strike the iPhone 5 in the lineup. Ha! Funny Apple... Not really. Also if they did 5 -- 5c -- 5s, naming would be confusing, because it would seem iPhone 5 with no letter added is the low tier -- crazy, yes, but people would see it like that.

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I'm not getting the cases either. Damn fugly IMO.

 

I was watching the Engadget live stream and the person reporting said it best about those cases, "It looks like I can play Connect 4 on it"

post #61 of 165

The 5C is a 5 in internally. I know my daughter is thrilled she is going to to be able to get a pink 5C instead of a white or black 5.

post #62 of 165

$99 subsidized? That BS. No wonder they retires iPhone 5 because they won't be able to sell a single piece of color crappy phones at the same price. iPhone 5s upgraded? Well, if you like different color options and better camera, otherwise, you should stick with your iPhone 5. I guess many people are feeling stupid now for trading in their iPhone 5.

Wait and see Apple shares going down in the next few months.

post #63 of 165
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The 5C is a 5 in internally. I know my daughter is thrilled she is going to to be able to get a pink 5C instead of a white or black 5.

 

Not entirely, the cell radio for one is different. That wider global compatibility is what probably nudged the 5 out, they wanted the first two tiers to both be as compatible as possible. Say for China Mobile etc.?

post #64 of 165

I have no doubt that colored iPhones are going to be a success, especially in countries that sell iPhones with multi-year contract, but there are many countries where people simply want to buy off-contract. The strategy of keeping around older models has to go. Look, it happened with the iPod touch too; they kept the 4th gen in the line up when they introduced the 5th gen, but the 4th gen can't upgrade to iOS 7 -- see that strategy is really bad. And now they replaced that basic 4th gen with a 5th gen without a camera -- that's bad value. Apple has to add good value. iPad mini was good value in the iPad line-up. Keeping older version in iPod touch and iPhone line has to stop -- Apple has to create value throughout, even if the entry level is only 8GB -- what people buy always has to feel fresh, not like yesteryears. I mean, AppleTV is Apple at its best in value.

post #65 of 165
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$99 subsidized? That BS. No wonder they retires iPhone 5 because they won't be able to sell a single piece of color crappy phones at the same price. iPhone 5s upgraded? Well, if you like different color options and better camera, otherwise, you should stick with your iPhone 5. I guess many people are feeling stupid now for trading in their iPhone 5.

Wait and see Apple shares going down in the next few months.

 

People only one year into their 5 contract "trading in" would be stupid for a different reason than not appreciating the substantial changes in the 5s.

post #66 of 165
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Unlocked 5C will be $550 and $650. Where are the savings? That's what the iPhone 5 would have cost as the middle tier. So this is just a margin-building exercise? Then why is stock tanking? How are China and India going to afford these "cheap" phone off contract?

 

imo they need to introduce a cheaper model in China indeed.  For the US, selling the old 5 model in colors is a good move for the market it targets.

 

For my its all bad choices because I want a contract free phone and a bigger screen. From the look of it I will be moving to Android to replace my 4s

post #67 of 165
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I was watching the Engadget live stream and the person reporting said it best about those cases, "It looks like I can play Connect 4 on it"

 

Yeah, I can't believe people on here are complaining about the prices when the colours are terrible and will out of style within 6 months (well at least up until Easter).   Those Connect 4/5 cases are terrible as well.  As for the price, why did they even bother coming out with this when they simply could have slapped new colours on the 5 and sold it to kids for a reduced price?

post #68 of 165

As I've (no pun intended) said before...

 

This is Tim's year. If the 5C lands like a thud then there's going to be trouble at Apple.

 

It damn near feels like a Performa moment to me.

 

[the 5C is not the type of phone that people are expecting from Apple... unless it's much cheaper than announced]

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post #69 of 165
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So, to recap, 0/10 from iFixit, better(?) telephony chip, and slightly better FaceTime camera.

...AND a better battery, AND larger screen pixels so brighter screen (not more pixels), AND faster wi-fi.

AND to correct AI: The color is PINK according to Apple, not red.
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post #70 of 165

Very disappointed by the high price.

 

This changes nothing about the price of Apple's phones internationally.

 

Crud.

post #71 of 165
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Unlocked 5C will be $550 and $650. Where are the savings? That's what the iPhone 5 would have cost as the middle tier. So this is just a margin-building exercise? Then why is stock tanking? How are China and India going to afford these "cheap" phone off contract?

The stock market is looking for increasing share not margins. And new products. The run up to this announcement assumed both. Cheaper iPhones. And a new device. We got the same strategy as last year except last years model ( the 5) looks cheaper. Because plastic looks cheaper. And no new device.

Did they really plan for this or was the phone just too expansive to produce?
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post #72 of 165
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Yeah, I can't believe people on here are complaining about the prices when the colours are terrible and will out of style within 6 months (well at least up until Easter).   Those Connect 4/5 cases are terrible as well.  As for the price, why did they even bother coming out with this when they simply could have slapped new colours on the 5 and sold it to kids for a reduced price?

 

Kids care very little about the actual color (maybe more about faceplate color) but every kid I know that is "given" an iPhone is "required" to have a case. What matter the color of the phone if you're going to skin it. Kids also like to differentiate and there is a lot of pretty cool cases out there. Why would anyone case a 5C other than maybe to protect the screen. If you're going to get a 5C and case it then you would have been better off with an IP5, there is a gynormus selection of cases available for it. I doubt there will be as big a market/variety for 5C cases.

China radio compatibiity is not very high on an American kids list of must have features.

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imo they need to introduce a cheaper model in China indeed.  For the US, selling the old 5 model in colors is a good move for the market it targets.

 

For my its all bad choices because I want a contract free phone and a bigger screen. From the look of it I will be moving to Android to replace my 4s

 

I hear you. Can't afford iPhone, don't want yesteryear's model. Every other Apple product you buy feels fresh after the refresh occurs. I mean MacBook Air, iMac, Mac mini; they don't keep yesteryear's models after the refresh. They have done away with it with the iPod touch. Sigh...

 

Thing is, I don't want an Android; I have a crappy one and would love an Apple. I love my new MacBook Air even though it doesn't have IPS. I love my iPad mini. They present to me value compared to what you can buy from the competition. The 4S is not value. I will buy a cheap feature phone that can only make calls and do SMS and have great battery life. I will go pre-iPhone revolution and wait for the entry level iPhone 5C next year.

post #74 of 165
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As I've (no pun intended) said before...

This is Tim's year. If the 5C lands like a thud then there's going to be trouble at Apple.

It damn near feels like a Performa moment to me.

The 5C is a winner, no IF about it. It has slightly superior specs to the iPhone 5, which was the leading selling iPhone Apple ever offered. PLUS, it comes with iWorks free.
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Disappointed by the price of the 5c. We don't want to be "stuck" with a 3-years contract (in Canada...). I'll forget about the idea of getting an iPhone as I don't expect Apple price policy to change. Unless I go with the 4s, but without contract it's costly for a 2 years old phone.

I somewhat understand their logic to not "hurt" the 5S (very nice by the way), but I would have liked to have the feeling that Apple cares about people who don't have big needs. I suppose they think that the can go have an Android phone, what might happen for me (never thought I could think that). Well, in the end, disappointed.

 

Canada doesn't have 3 year plans anymore. Just so you are kept up to date.

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post #76 of 165

So everyone was bitching about the thought of Apple releasing a "cheap" iPhone.

 

Now everyone is bitching that it's not cheap enough.

 

Nice to see nothing's changed.

 

Whatever. Apple will sell a gazillion of these.

post #77 of 165

iPhone 5c(hildren) $739 and $869 here in Australia. This phone is unapologetically aimed at the US market.

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post #78 of 165

Maybe if we all write Tim Cook that we want an entry level iPhone 5c instead of a 4s...? Remember when Apple lowered the price of the original iPhone with $200-$300? Come on... let's contact him... I think, Apple will treat 2013 as a transition year. iPod touch eventually has to go lower in price. iPod shuffle replaced with nano. iPhone 5c will eventually take the place of the current iPod touch in price point.

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The 5C is a winner, no IF about it. It has slightly superior specs to the iPhone 5, which was the leading selling iPhone Apple ever offered. PLUS, it comes with iWorks free.

Yawn. There was no reason to replace the 5 with a cheap plastic cover unless the phone was much cheaper than the 5 would have been. The 5 could have had iWork's for free.
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I hear you. Can't afford iPhone, don't want yesteryear's model. Every other Apple product you buy feels fresh after the refresh occurs. I mean MacBook Air, iMac, Mac mini; they don't keep yesteryear's models after the refresh. They have done away with it with the iPod touch. Sigh...

Thing is, I don't want an Android; I have a crappy one and would love an Apple. I love my new MacBook Air even though it doesn't have IPS. I love my iPad mini. They present to me value compared to what you can buy from the competition. The 4S is not value. I will buy a cheap feature phone that can only make calls and do SMS and have great battery life. I will go pre-iPhone revolution and wait for the entry level iPhone 5C next year.

Load the new iOS7 onto an iPhone 4S from eBay and Voilá, you will have an iPhone on the cheap!! What better value can you have??
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