or Connect
AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPhone › Apple announces iPhone 5s: Touch ID fingerprint security, 64-bit A7 CPU, new gold option coming Sept. 20
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Apple announces iPhone 5s: Touch ID fingerprint security, 64-bit A7 CPU, new gold option coming... - Page 7

post #241 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zozman View Post
 

 

I try to put my feelings aside with a lot of this stuff, My personal feelings are pretty different, I'm playing devils advocate.

I don't post on an Apple forum to be a troll, I love the products, I think they are the best at what they do.
That's my personal feelings, the world doesn't always agree with me (i think they are nuts) but none the less, people are entitled to their opinions as stupid as they seem. 

When i said the iPhones cost more then they 'should', its more that id like it if the prices were as close to universal as they can be (meaning aside from local taxes & currency conversion, i want it to be the same).

Also when I say that the iPhones are too expensive, it's not an issue that impacts me so much, i'll still end up getting them, but it makes it a whole lot harder to recommend them to people that might not have the cash & if they ask, 'Why get an iPhone that cost alot more than the S4?, the S4 is very popular', I might say, 'the iPhones build quality is amazing, the echo system is great, best apps available & you don't have to stress about malware & apps have quality control', for me thats a big deal, i've spoken to many people that say, 'pffffft android works fine for me, UI isn't glitchy at all & they have the same sort of apps'.
I never end call them an idiot, but people have different standards.

 

I doubt this world is going to have equal currency exchange rates and equal tax rates.  

 

I just looked at Samsung's retail list price and they have the S4 for $765 in Australia and in the US, it's $699.  I'm sure part of the whole thing is Samsung is moving product from Korea as that is their home base, Apple's is US, so the currency conversion sucks.  Not much they can do about it, plus they both have that silly Australian tax added on top.


I think the these import taxes prevent products coming into your country which is a problem.  These governments, ALL OF THEM, seem to just want to tax everyone coming and going like they are entitled to it because they can't spend the tax revenues in a fiscally responsible manner, so WE, corporations, suffer because of it.

 

 For me, I wouldn't want to pay top dollar for a polycarb phone, that to me is a lower line product which is what Apple did. I'm sure for Polycarb, its decent, but I doubt Apple will make their top of the line products polycarb like Samsung does and they , for whatever reason, get away with it.  Samsung also seems to get away with shipping 4.2.2 instead of 4.3, which is the latest OS.  What's up with that?  People just don't seem to care that they are buying an obsolete product the day it's announced.  Go figure.

post #242 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by drblank View Post
 

 

I doubt this world is going to have equal currency exchange rates and equal tax rates.  

 

It won't, thats not what i was getting at, I can accept, currency exchange rates & tax rates, you can calculate for them, when they add a phantom price of top of those, thats my issue.

post #243 of 273
Originally Posted by Zozman View Post

 

Why is it legal to lie like that in reviews?

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply
post #244 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

 

Why is it legal to lie like that in reviews?

 

Seems pretty common on youtube, read the comment sections if you wan't to get in a bad mood really quickly.
Young kid trolls telling everyone how the world works, iSheep this & that.

post #245 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zozman View Post
 

 

Seems pretty common on youtube, read the comment sections if you wan't to get in a bad mood really quickly.
Young kid trolls telling everyone how the world works, iSheep this & that.

 

youtube's comment section is one of the worst places on the internet, on almost every video. If there were a Dalai Lama video you would get some vile douche claiming to want to anally rape him. They would do everyone a favour if they disabled comments completely.

AppleInsider = Apple-in-cider. It's a joke!

I've used macs since 1985 when I typed up my first research paper. Never used anything else never wanted to.
Reply
AppleInsider = Apple-in-cider. It's a joke!

I've used macs since 1985 when I typed up my first research paper. Never used anything else never wanted to.
Reply
post #246 of 273
Originally Posted by Zozman View Post

Seems pretty common on youtube, read the comment sections if you wan't to get in a bad mood really quickly.

Originally Posted by Eluard View Post

youtube's comment section is one of the worst places on the internet, on almost every video.

 

The MST3K guys said it well: "Now to upload this to YouTube so twelve year olds can call me a gaywad."

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply
post #247 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eluard View Post

youtube's comment section is one of the worst places on the internet, on almost every video. They would do everyone a favour if they disabled comments completely.

Or take the entire service down. I don't know what is worse: the video's or the comments on them.
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
post #248 of 273
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post
Or take the entire service down.

 

Anything that acts as a money drain to Google should be left standing as long as possible.

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply
post #249 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Quote:
Or take the entire service down.

Anything that acts as a money drain to Google should be left standing as long as possible.

Ooh that's a good point!
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
post #250 of 273
wondering if the next ipad will get the fingerprint sensor as well......
post #251 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by rumormill View Post

wondering if the next ipad will get the fingerprint sensor as well......

I would assume it would.  I'm thinking they might eventually do this with laptops and maybe even on desktops somehow.  I would certainly like to have it on my iPad.   Adding the sensor on a laptop might be cool.

post #252 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by drblank View Post

I would assume it would.  I'm thinking they might eventually do this with laptops and maybe even on desktops somehow.  I would certainly like to have it on my iPad.   Adding the sensor on a laptop might be cool.

Fingerprint readers will be appearing on even more laptops than they already do, and extending to a slew of new tablets and smartphones from various manufacturers IMO. Synaptics, a long time player in touch sensors, has bought up the biometric fingerprint sensing firm Validity. Their fingerprint reader tech sounds an awful lot like Apple's TouchID doesn't it?
http://www.validityinc.com/technology.php

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/09/5808156/synaptics-enters-fast-growing.html
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
post #253 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


Fingerprint readers will be appearing on even more laptops than they already do, and extending to a slew of new tablets and smartphones from various manufacturers IMO. Synaptics, a long time player in touch sensors, has bought up the biometric fingerprint sensing firm Validity. Their fingerprint reader tech sounds an awful lot like Apple's TouchID doesn't it?
http://www.validityinc.com/technology.php

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/09/5808156/synaptics-enters-fast-growing.html

I'm sure there are similarities, whether they work as well I don't know, the article doesn't mention anything about that.  Then there is the price of the sensors, and the s/w that goes along with it.

 

Apple bought AuthenTec for a reason.    Sometimes it's solely on technology, sometimes it's just being able to buy a company for a target price and having willingness in selling the business.  That part, we probably will never know fully.  Quite frankly, having used the sensor on the 5S, it seems to work pretty well and that's the bottom line.  Other than that, it's how cheap they can make them and how fast they can spit them out from a production point of view.

 

Now, I have no idea if Validatity is copying Apple's sensor or not, I have no idea if it works as well and how it's priced, etc.  But Apple has the technology now and it's just a matter of them spitting out enough for production.

 

One thing is to have something on paper that says it works, and another to have physical product to show it works and then being able to produce large quantities at a certain price point.

 

Fingerprint sensors have been used in computers for a while now, it's just not as wide spread as what I think Apple plans on doing.  It's obviously cheaper for Apple to own the technology and to maybe come up with patents surrounding it to protect it somehow.

post #254 of 273
No, but their use of product placement(?) is a bit...'dodgy'

"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
post #255 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


Fingerprint readers will be appearing on even more laptops than they already do, and extending to a slew of new tablets and smartphones from various manufacturers IMO. Synaptics, a long time player in touch sensors, has bought up the biometric fingerprint sensing firm Validity. Their fingerprint reader tech sounds an awful lot like Apple's TouchID doesn't it?
http://www.validityinc.com/technology.php

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/09/5808156/synaptics-enters-fast-growing.html

So what's your point?  That there are other sensors on the market?  Well, all I care about is what Apple's using since I use and will continue to use Apple products unless I actually find something else that works better.  Which is highly unlikely.

post #256 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by drblank View Post

So what's your point?  That there are other sensors on the market?  Well, all I care about is what Apple's using since I use and will continue to use Apple products unless I actually find something else that works better.  Which is highly unlikely.

I've no idea why you'd be confused about the point. I stated it pretty clearly. ErictheHalfBee mentioned Validity as a potential competing supplier a few weeks ago as they've been supplying biometric sensors for a few years now.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/159346/leak-samsung-could-beat-apple-to-the-punch-with-fingerprint-sensor-in-note-3#post_2389571

As far as the questions you indicated you had about Validity there's been a few articles about them. Here's one:
http://www.citeworld.com/security/22399/iphone-fingerprint-scanner-better-biometrics
Edited by Gatorguy - 10/10/13 at 6:07am
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
post #257 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


I've no idea why you'd be confused about the point. I stated it pretty clearly. ErictheHalfBee mentioned Validity as a potential competing supplier a few weeks ago as they've been supplying biometric sensors for a few years now.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/159346/leak-samsung-could-beat-apple-to-the-punch-with-fingerprint-sensor-in-note-3#post_2389571

As far as the questions you indicated you had about Validity there's been a few articles about them. Here's one:
http://www.citeworld.com/security/22399/iphone-fingerprint-scanner-better-biometrics

They have a POTENTIAL competing product?  And why do I care?  I'm not designing products to use these types of sensors, so what good is it for me to know about something else?  It's like what good is it to know much about Android products if you have no desire to use them?  Kind of a waste of my time. 

 

If I were planning on designing a product to use finger sensors, then it might be of interest to me, but since I'm not, I have no interest in Validity.

post #258 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by drblank View Post

They have a POTENTIAL competing product?  And why do I care?  I'm not designing products to use these types of sensors, so what good is it for me to know about something else?  It's like what good is it to know much about Android products if you have no desire to use them?  Kind of a waste of my time. 

If I were planning on designing a product to use finger sensors, then it might be of interest to me, but since I'm not, I have no interest in Validity.

Then why bother commenting? Others may be interested in biometric sensing and who the players are even if you are not. So why should you care? The faster this appears as an authentication method in other mobile devices the faster it becomes a tested and accepted tech.
Edited by Gatorguy - 10/10/13 at 7:26am
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
post #259 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


I've no idea why you'd be confused about the point. I stated it pretty clearly. ErictheHalfBee mentioned Validity as a potential competing supplier a few weeks ago as they've been supplying biometric sensors for a few years now.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/159346/leak-samsung-could-beat-apple-to-the-punch-with-fingerprint-sensor-in-note-3#post_2389571

As far as the questions you indicated you had about Validity there's been a few articles about them. Here's one:
http://www.citeworld.com/security/22399/iphone-fingerprint-scanner-better-biometrics

I'm trying to figure out why you even bothered looking up Validity?  Are you planning on using it?   Apple isn't going to use another brand product when they just spent about $30 Million or so buying AuthenTec and another amount on R&D to come up with the products they are using and plan on using in other products. Obviously, Samsung didn't beat Apple to the punch with Fingerprint ID technology in the Note, did they?  NOPE.  Oh well.

post #260 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by drblank View Post

I'm trying to figure out why you even bothered looking up Validity?  Are you planning on using it?   Apple isn't going to use another brand product when they just spent about $30 Million or so buying AuthenTec and another amount on R&D to come up with the products they are using and plan on using in other products. Obviously, Samsung didn't beat Apple to the punch with Fingerprint ID technology in the Note, did they?  NOPE.  Oh well.

The news about Validity was in a press release today mentioned by Engadget among others.

So let's put it differently so that you can more easily recognize the benefit to you as an Apple customer. Synaptics hardware and IP is widely used and licensed in devices from nearly all computer/smartphone device users. Yes, even Apple licenses Synaptic IP. With Validity now part of the already well-entrenched Synaptic, biometric authentication tech should see a fast ramp-up. That should also mean that companies that may not see enough benefit to supporting Apple's TouchID as the sole entrant right now may find that with millions of Android/Windows devices also offering the feature it becomes a targeted option for mobile payments or other services.

...and that sir benefits you as an Apple user.
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
post #261 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


The news about Validity was in a press release today mentioned by Engadget among others.

So let's put it differently so that you can more easily recognize the benefit to you as an Apple customer. Synaptics hardware and IP is widely used and licensed in devices from nearly all computer/smartphone device users. Yes, even Apple licenses Synaptic IP. With Validity now part of the already well-entrenched Synaptic, biometric authentication tech should see a fast ramp-up. That should also mean that companies that may not see enough benefit to supporting Apple's TouchID as the sole entrant right now may find that with millions of Android/Windows devices also offering the feature it becomes a targeted option for mobile payments or other services.

...and that sir benefits you as an Apple user.

Hold on Buckaroo..

 

First off, what IP does Apple license for Synaptic?  They were licensing multi-touch for the track pad,for which both got sued from Elan who sued Synaptics and then Apple for using Synaptics's license.

 

To my knowledge Apple doesn't license the fingerprint ID technology as Apple bought AuthenTec and they've been developing their own.

 

Now, I still am trying to figure out how Apple users benefit if Android and Windows users are using similar technology?  Where is your logic on this one?


Edited by drblank - 10/10/13 at 10:54am
post #262 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by drblank View Post

Hold on Buckaroo..

First off, what IP does Apple license for Synaptic?  They were licensing multi-touch for the track pad,for which both got sued from Elan who sued Synaptics and then Apple for using Synaptics's license.

To my knowledge Apple doesn't license the fingerprint ID technology as Apple bought AuthenTec and they've been developing their own.

Now, I still am trying to figure out how Apple users benefit if Android and Windows users are using similar technology?  Where is your logic on this one?

You just answered your own question about Apple being a Synaptic licensee. 1rolleyes.gif For those who weren't aware of it there's an article here:
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+is+Forced+Into+MultiTouch+Settlements+Tastes+its+Own+Medicine/article23676.htm

As for why other companies adopting fingerprint authentication would benefit Apple user, read my post again. It shouldn't be confusing. Apple users would benefit if other companies adopted Thunderbolt too.
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
post #263 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


You just answered your own question about Apple being a Synaptic licensee. 1rolleyes.gif For those who weren't aware of it there's an article here:
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+is+Forced+Into+MultiTouch+Settlements+Tastes+its+Own+Medicine/article23676.htm

As for why other companies adopting fingerprint authentication would benefit Apple user, read my post again. It shouldn't be confusing. Apple users would benefit if other companies adopted Thunderbolt too.

I know i answered my own question, I didn't know if you knew what Apple was actually licensing because you made it sound like Apple was licensing fingerprint related technology, not the multitouch related technology.

 

Fingerprint ID and Thunderbolt technology is not even in the same ball park.  Why?

Fingerprint ID technology is just a means to secure a device so no third party hardware has to be developed past the sensor.  An Android or WIndows phone using another brand of Fingerprint ID will not have any effect on an Apple user that is using Apple's fingerprint technology.

 

Now, let's move to Thunderbolt.  The reason why if more companies put Thunderbolt ports on their products would help is that it would open up the products by 3rd parties to make more Thunderbolt related products and in larger quantity to hopefully bring down the costs.  That's the ONLY way that having more PC mfg use Thunderbolt will help an Apple user.  But so far, there are plenty of Thunderbolt products on the market and as more Apple computers get sold, more companies have more people to sell product to, so the adoption rate is actually doing pretty well.  I actually think it's being adopted faster than Firewire in some ways.

 

But to compare Thunderbolt and Fingerprint ID technology?  Please.  there is no correlation between the two whatsoever. 

 

To an Apple user its just a matter of Apple spitting out more devices with the technology and then for Apple to allow 3rd party s/w to leverage it and whether or not the Windows/Android crowd does it using Validity or Synaptics is NOT going to affect the Apple user in any way shape or form only in perception that Fingerprint ID technology is valid.  It's more just perception than anything else, Buckaroo.

post #264 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by drblank View Post

I know i answered my own question, I didn't know if you knew what Apple was actually licensing because you made it sound like Apple was licensing fingerprint related technology, not the multitouch related technology.

It's more just perception than anything else, Buckaroo.

Well, we two "Buckaroos" can continue the discussion over in the AI thread about it now that they've reported the sale.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/160065/synaptics-buys-samsung-partner-validity-to-take-on-apples-authentec-touch-id-feature#post_2414774
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
post #265 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


Well, we two "Buckaroos" can continue the discussion over in the AI thread about it now that they've reported the sale.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/160065/synaptics-buys-samsung-partner-validity-to-take-on-apples-authentec-touch-id-feature#post_2414774

All I care about is that Apple's technology works well.  What the others do I could give a rip.  Just because Scamscum wants to use Validity sensors is their only way to make it appear like they are as good as Apple's technology.  And?  It's not going to make Android any better.  All it does it helps Apple in marketing their own fingerprint technology, but we all know who brought out the technology first.  What I like about Apple's technology is they figured out that when you press your finger on the sensor that it's not always perfectly lined up the same way as when you trained it, so they basically have you train the sensor where you finger is in different positions as it helps read the fingerprint better even if you are slightly off axis.  I don't know if the Validity sensors are going to do that.  I'm sure over time, if Validity is copying Apple, maybe Apple might have to sue them over it, much like Synaptics got sued by Elan.  Obviously, Apple chose the wrong IP and they got sued over it, but that happens sometimes.  Maybe Synaptics isn't the best partner to use in the first place.   either way, Apple does it their way now and they don't have to rely on a Validity or Synaptics for Fingerprint technology, they have their own.

post #266 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by thataveragejoe View Post
 

If the phone has less than 4GB RAM (probably) the 64bit is largely useless, especially for the average consumer. A nice surprise though. Outpacing the ARMv8's to the market. 

You know, y'all are just displaying your ignorance.

 

The ARMv8 architecture is unquestionably faster and more efficient - the only question that remains is how much of the greater performance of the A7 is due to the generic ARMv8 AArch64 mode and how much is Apple's secret sauce - because it's the generic ARMv8 portion that'll eventually roll downhill to Android.

 

Although nothing will entirely cancel out the design misstep that is Dalvik, faster scaler processing will help reduce the jutter that interpreter instantiation/JIT transcoding causes in the scrolling of content and other real-time tasks.

post #267 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by thataveragejoe View Post
 

These are largely meh. This could be the big breakthrough in scanning tech, but it's not exactly like everyone's clamoring for it.

As others noted, this isn't really a positive or negative. Other OEMs have started offering double the storage at 199/299 price points.

You know, no one was clamoring for a touchscreen phone when the original iPhone was introduced.

 

What I have heard people clamoring for are:

 

1. NFC - a chipset without a cause. At least where I live, there's really nothing you can do with it.

 

Well, I guess Google/Android has found a use - initial contact and configuring other devices. Too bad they couldn't have just use wifi - but then again, this was an attempt to find a viable use for NFC.

 

2. A bigger screen.

 

Android users talk about it like it was somehow a great innovation. And patentable. "They should sue Apple if they try to use it,"

 

The manufacturers of a lot of Android devices are now providing screens which display more data than the human eye can perceive, costing users battery life and CPU time needlessly, just so they can keep up in the specs game. Others are now making 4K noises.

 

The larger screen on Android was a serendipitous event caused by the lower overall efficiency of Dalvik (an interpreter) vs. binary machine code and a more optimized kernel. Apple's kernel has always been optimized for low UI latency vs. a generic linux kernel optimized for high specmark numbers. Android has always required a stronger processor for the same performance, and that costs power. In addition, Android manufacturers were desperate to differentiate themselves from the competitors - which eventually became keeping up with the Jones - so they started adding LTE chipsets before they were ready for prime time eating more power. In order to power all the extra junk, they needed a much bigger battery and the whole kit scaled up from there. In order to keep it from looking like a postage stamp on a brick, they threw on a bigger display.

 

Now I could see a bigger display, as long as they don't scale it up so much that I need to use it on my big comfy couch. Just widen it a tad, because something closer to a 4x3 orientation which is much more usable. In fact, it would be nice to offer them both - an iPhone 5 form factor and one that was a bit wider.

post #268 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Verne Arase View Post

Although nothing will entirely cancel out the design misstep that is Dalvik, faster scaler processing will help reduce the jutter that interpreter instantiation/JIT transcoding causes in the scrolling of content and other real-time tasks.

I take it 64-bit will benefit Android tremendously then? Because all I see when someone shows me something on their Android tablet is jitter. And lag, the response after touching an element is just, well, slow.
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
post #269 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumergo View Post
 

Apple delivers some fine new products and the stock tanks > 10 bucks.  Guess they didn't offer a "teleportation option" (or some other mega-wow app).  Great isn't it?  What does Apple have to do to get Wall Street etc., to believe they are a great US company and here for the long term?

Apple stock always tanks after announcement, and analysts are always way off in their guesstimation of reality.

 

It's always either Apple's going to sell 200 million (in which case they'll punish Apple later for not doing so), or this thing's crap and they'll sell only three dozen (in which case they'll punish Apple now).

post #270 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zozman View Post
 

 

Haha, nah, its one of the best places in the world :) for someone like me that loves tech, I still buy everything, just bitch about it online :P 

It's not like I'm trying to actually change things. 


Hey Zozman, I think the forum might say, "we rest our case" concerning the value of your contributions.

 

Unfortunately, you've spent many of your limited number of breaths and time on this planet, venting and typing to self-admittedly no avail - "HaHa, It's not like I'm trying to actually change things".

 

Thank you so much for your single-handed comments.

post #271 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumergo View Post
 


Hey Zozman, I think the forum might say, "we rest our case" concerning the value of your contributions.

 

Unfortunately, you've spent many of your limited number of breaths and time on this planet, venting and typing to self-admittedly no avail - "HaHa, It's not like I'm trying to actually change things".

 

Thank you so much for your single-handed comments.

 

Ummm...Thanks? i guess?.

 

to be fair, no one here is actually changing things, its a forum for people that like similar things to talk about said things & bitch about stuff & people that disagree, for anyone that didn't know this...Welcome to the internet.

 So i think i might be a bit more self aware than your average person (which is good & bad).

your comment is interesting, however, might be arrogant of me to say, My points were actuate & true (basically i was right) :p so I wont take any offence. 

not sure what you were reading...

 

have a nice day.

post #272 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zozman View Post
 

 

Ummm...Thanks? i guess?.

 

to be fair, no one here is actually changing things, its a forum for people that like similar things to talk about said things & bitch about stuff & people that disagree, for anyone that didn't know this...Welcome to the internet.

 So i think i might be a bit more self aware than your average person (which is good & bad).

your comment is interesting, however, might be arrogant of me to say, My points were actuate & true (basically i was right) :p so I wont take any offence. 

not sure what you were reading...

 

have a nice day.


Hey Zozman, nice reply.  You're right, I was being needlessly snotty.  I withdraw my post.

post #273 of 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumergo View Post
 


Hey Zozman, nice reply.  You're right, I was being needlessly snotty.  I withdraw my post.

 

No problems, I do the same thing sometimes, Damn internet makes it so easy sometimes.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: iPhone
  • Apple announces iPhone 5s: Touch ID fingerprint security, 64-bit A7 CPU, new gold option coming Sept. 20
AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPhone › Apple announces iPhone 5s: Touch ID fingerprint security, 64-bit A7 CPU, new gold option coming Sept. 20