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Because there is nothing to demo. Bring someone on stage put his finger on the button and? And nothing, the iPhone is unlocked. So, what? That's all. Yeah, that's all.

What kind of demo would that be? A pretty short demo, don't you think?

 

I for one have never seen or used any fingerprint authentication device before, so I just would have liked to see it in action, and see how quickly it works. And as you said, it would have been a pretty short demo, so why not include it? This is afterall being touted as a big feature. I would have just liked to see it in action, but I guess that we'll know all about that soon enough when people and reviewers test it out.

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Man, was this disappointing or what? A year, they had a year and they come up with a fingerprint sensor that is good for nothing except unlocking you phone? This is all Apple is capable of? Really?

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Man, was this disappointing or what? A year, they had a year and they come up with a fingerprint sensor that is good for nothing except unlocking you phone? This is all Apple is capable of? Really?

iTunes purchases as well, and I don't doubt that they'll add more functionality to it sooner rather than later.
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Duh, stock selloffs often occur after Apple announcements, no matter what they announce.

 

Duh?  What are you 7?  Go ask your mommy if it's okay for you to be on the computer.

 

The well known saying goes "buy on rumor, sell on news". I think that is what he is referring to.

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I see we have the same usual, shitty responses as with after every single Apple keynote. Glad so many of you are "dissapointed" and "underwhelmed". Maybe it will motivate you to actually go and create something in your lives. The rest of us can appreciate the massive engineering and design efforts that Apple's products require, and the fact that these 2 phones will be by far their best selling devices ever. The 5S looks like a beast, and will be a massive upgrade from my Nexus4 which has been driving me a little crazy these last few months.The 5C is basically an improved 5, which is awesome because the 5 is still an incredible phone.  Can't wait. 

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I understood very well, but compared what the market trend, and competitors are doing, it's really nice new features that I care less about it, doesn't make me wanna jump to pre-order, not like previous generations, here at the office, almost 70 iPhone users have all the same feeling... 

 
With all those rumor leaked around, sure, I was prepared for the same iPhone 5 form factor, no bigger screen.
 
Go check out a HTC One, or Samsung S4, the screen looks amazingly gorgeous, very light weight, impressive battery life, and the features are just impressive. Samsung and Sony even have one model that's waterproof.
 
Can Apple's iPhone do that? No...
 
So, I'll stick to my iPhone 4S until I see a bigger 4.5" screen, better battery life, and waterproof (my son drools around the phone), and bigger storage capacity, I have a 64GB and can easily fill up with videos from both recording my son, and infant videos to entertain him.
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12 months for this?  Stock price is going to get crushed.  

Seriously, a whole year and all they did was double the processing power, greatly improve the camera, add a fingerprint sensor, improve the battery life, add an ultra-low power always-on motion sensor, improve the recording frame rates, add China and other international LTE variants, add some colors, and still manage to release to more countries and carriers faster than ever. Slackers.
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The 5S looks like a beast, and will be a massive upgrade from my Nexus4 which has been driving me a little crazy these last few months.The 5C is basically an improved 5, which is awesome because the 5 is still an incredible phone.  Can't wait. 

 

You own a Nexus? I've never thought that you'd be using any Android device.:lol:

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Welcome to Apple Insider, georgegiorgio.

Underwhelmed by your "newbie troll."

You need to try harder.  Definitely.

I understood very well, but compared what the market trend, and competitors are doing, it's really nice new features that I care less about it, doesn't make me wanna jump to pre-order, not like previous generations, here at the office, almost 70 iPhone users have all the same feeling... 

 
With all those rumor leaked around, sure, I was prepared for the same iPhone 5 form factor, no bigger screen.
 
Go check out a HTC One, or Samsung S4, the screen looks amazingly gorgeous, very light weight, impressive battery life, and the features are just impressive. Samsung and Sony even have one model that's waterproof.
 
Can Apple's iPhone do that? No...
 
So, I'll stick to my iPhone 4S until I see a bigger 4.5" screen, better battery life, and waterproof (my son drools around the phone), and bigger storage capacity, I have a 64GB and can easily fill up with videos from both recording my son, and infant videos to entertain him.
post #50 of 135

There goes my lifeproof case. I'm really looking forward to trying this feature out.

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Also, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but as a lay person who is not completely brainwashed by Apple fever, as you seem to be, I'm predicting far more modest sales of the latest Apple devices, except perhaps in markets where their products have not been available previously. Even there, I don't see the masses clamoring for their iDevices as they have in the past. Remember this post, and quote me on it in time if you feel I was incorrect.

So by more modest, what do you speculate the launch weekend will produce? The iPhone 5 first weekend sales were about 5 million.

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Hey gals & guys,

 

throughout the entire keynote I had this massive feeling that a 'one more thing ...' was coming up. I was impressed how fast they flew over the features in software (iOS7+free apps) and hardware 5C & 5S. I could not believe it was over when Tim called Costello on the stage...

 

Still, I like the idea of the 5C to sparkle some color and to replace the iPhone 5. It's going to work great for younger people. And the iPhone 5S is (as iOS7) a great springboard into future updates and products. 64bit kernel? Already?! Whoa, faster than I dared to think about it. 

 

Looks like a MacBook Air with iOS 8 is just a shy year away. 

 

All good ... but fast keynote, really really fast, almost hectic when there was nothing else to add in... any thoughts on this?

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I just saw a video of Touch ID in action, and it seems to work extremely fast.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXU63NXzg5A&feature=player_embedded

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Samsung and Sony even have one model that's waterproof.

Oh yeah, the waterproof phone whose warranty is void if it is damaged by water. Awesome.
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post #55 of 135
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Still, the processor is good. 64 bit is good. And the motion coprocessor looks useful. I'll give them that. But the rest of the phone is a huge disappointment. The fingerprint is a gimmick without NFC. The processor would be good for true multitasking, but for true multitasking you need a bigger screen, so you can have two apps open on the same screen. That's why you need a bigger screen! Which Apple doesn't want to make!

 

64-bit is "good"? Who else has made the transition from 32 to 64 bit without changing form factor, shortening battery life and requiring developers to jump thru hoops? This might be the most understated processor upgrade in the history of computing.

 

*true* multitasking? Do you know what multitasking means? IOS has has multitasking from day one. What are you asking for is split screen display of two or more apps. Don't you agree that you need to understand technology before you can criticize it? :)

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Oh yeah, the waterproof phone whose warranty is void if it is damaged by water. Awesome.

I walked in once with my water-damaged iPhone. Told them what happened and they gave me a replacement. No fuss. No muss.

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I understood very well, but compared what the market trend, and competitors are doing, it's really nice new features that I care less about it, doesn't make me wanna jump to pre-order, not like previous generations, here at the office, almost 70 iPhone users have all the same feeling... 

 
With all those rumor leaked around, sure, I was prepared for the same iPhone 5 form factor, no bigger screen.
 
Go check out a HTC One, or Samsung S4, the screen looks amazingly gorgeous, very light weight, impressive battery life, and the features are just impressive. Samsung and Sony even have one model that's waterproof.
 
Can Apple's iPhone do that? No...
 
So, I'll stick to my iPhone 4S until I see a bigger 4.5" screen, better battery life, and waterproof (my son drools around the phone), and bigger storage capacity, I have a 64GB and can easily fill up with videos from both recording my son, and infant videos to entertain him.

 

OMG, you are trolling..  Never thought I will use the term as well.

:D

 

You have just conducted a survey on your group of 70 iPhone using colleagues? Samsung S4 HTC One? Both are in my office and screen looks amazingly shitty (especially on Samsung) with totally, utterly wrong colors, forcing my Fandroid colleague designer to check every colour scheme in iPhone :D...

 

Battery life? Don't be ridiculous....

 

You are one of the worst troller ever appear here and you should really try to do something more productive instead. Like buying a handkerchief or a napkin to your son.

post #58 of 135
In other news, the NSA can grab data directly off your phone without using Apple's servers, so the fact that the fingerprint information is kept only on your phone might not be as comforting as Apple would like you to think...
post #59 of 135
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Hey gals & guys,

 

throughout the entire keynote I had this massive feeling that a 'one more thing ...' was coming up. I was impressed how fast they flew over the features in software (iOS7+free apps) and hardware 5C & 5S. I could not believe it was over when Tim called Costello on the stage...

 

Still, I like the idea of the 5C to sparkle some color and to replace the iPhone 5. It's going to work great for younger people. And the iPhone 5S is (as iOS7) a great springboard into future updates and products. 64bit kernel? Already?! Whoa, faster than I dared to think about it. 

 

Looks like a MacBook Air with iOS 8 is just a shy year away. 

 

All good ... but fast keynote, really really fast, almost hectic when there was nothing else to add in... any thoughts on this?

 

Don't think they will ever do "one more thing" again. Reason #1: They want it in the Steve Jobs museum. Reason #2: JK Shin has tainted that phrase by using it in his "Unpacked" presentations.

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Baffling! If they had demoed the new Touch ID, they could have showed how it works with iCloud Keychain in iOS 7 so you'd never have to remember another password again. 

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Also, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but as a lay person who is not completely brainwashed by Apple fever, as you seem to be, I'm predicting far more modest sales of the latest Apple devices, except perhaps in markets where their products have not been available previously. Even there, I don't see the masses clamoring for their iDevices as they have in the past. Remember this post, and quote me on it in time if you feel I was incorrect.

 

well, that's YOUR opinion too. i guess one person's brainwash is another's brain dead.

 

anyway, for me the fingerprint unlock and PW system is a huge deal. because (1) i really do hate having to punch in codes and PW's all the time, and (2) it will discourage muggers from attacking us on the sidwalks to steal our iPhones - which is a real issue here in SF and other cities. i'd buy the 5S just for that.

 

anyway, like many i'm on a two year cycle to get a latest iPhone. since i'm paying the full monthly price even if i don't. it's time again, and now there are easy trade in options too. but i will check out an unlocked deal with independent service first this time ...

 

as to sales, i think iOS 7 is actully the key. if people really like it then new iPhone sales should be huge. if not, then just ok. we'll know in a couple of months, look forward to hearing from you then.

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In other news, the NSA can grab data directly off your phone without using Apple's servers, so the fact that the fingerprint information is kept only on your phone might not be as comforting as Apple would like you to think...

 

crimeny, the NSA already has my thumbprint ... from my drivers license anyway.

post #63 of 135
I think we're getting a clearer picture of what the 5C is. Seems pretty clear Apple wasn't happy with the 4/4S cannibalization of the 5 and so a clear distinction is being made between the products.

The Verge has a hands on video of the 5C. They actually have nice things to say about it, and that it feels better than the plastic Samsung and LG phones.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/10/4714074/apple-iphone-5c-hands-on-pictures-video

Oh and the yellow phone they're showing in this video actually looks really nice. I thought I was going to hate the color matched wallpaper but seeing it on video it looks really nice. Much better than the leaked low res photos we saw.
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Seriously, a whole year and all they did was double the processing power, greatly improve the camera, add a fingerprint sensor, improve the battery life, add an ultra-low power always-on motion sensor, improve the recording frame rates, add China and other international LTE variants, add some colors, and still manage to release to more countries and carriers faster than ever. Slackers.

 

ROFL, when you have to say "add some colors" to make it look like they accomplished a lot you know it's a fail.  And sorry, but what does releasing to countries have to do with improving their products and creating new products?  Not that they've done much of the later recently.  

 

Improved speed and camera...pretty sure this happens every year no?

 

This is the biggest company in the world by market cap, so yeah, if that's it for essentially a 12 month quiet period it's pretty underwhelming. Hey, it's a great phone dont get me wrong, but is it going to convert people and keep current customers or is this going to keep the status quo? 

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Originally Posted by racingbull View Post

throughout the entire keynote I had this massive feeling that a 'one more thing ...' was coming up.

 

Steve's dead. Not sure why you thought that.

 

I'm glad it was just the iPhone. No need for Macs at this event.

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post #66 of 135

What I see is following:

 

- an upgrade to existing best phone, with funny color scheme to attract younger customers, costing some 100 bucks less than before and still keeping profits on same level. Great combination! It's clear to me ow why it's not cheaper.

- a 64-bit beast with awesome camera, fast authentication feature, very much improved CPU and GPU

 

These 2 models will sell very good and there is no doubt that there will be many that will buy competitive products. Times have changed and Apple is not alone in the market any more and I see no problem with it. iPhone is for me incomparably superior choice to S4 and HTC One with Android or whatever together and I really don't understand why would anyone else have problem with it. For me it is obvious that people who choose other phones are actually looking about other things and features than I do. Let them.

 

I am certainly not disappointed with what was presented.

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The keynote is on Apple TV now
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"Touch ID can be used for passcodes to unlock the device ..."  

 

What does this actually mean though?  If TouchID (a fingerprint) can be used to unlock the device, why not say that?  Does this mean you need a fingerprint *and* a passcode to unlock the device?  In conjunction with the picture posted beside the statement this is clear as mud.  

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Steve's dead. Not sure why you thought that.

 

I'm glad it was just the iPhone. No need for Macs at this event.

 

simply because all the keynote was too fast, almost frenetic and left me with a feeling that they really had to rush to pack everything in that keynote.

 

Usually there are updates with stats about usage, sales etc. They completely skipped that. By 10.30am they were done with updates, iOS7 AND iPhone 5C ... 40 mins for iPhone 5S and done, pronto. dazzling.

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"Touch ID can be used for passcodes to unlock the device ..."  

 

What does this actually mean though?  If TouchID (a fingerprint) can be used to unlock the device, why not say that?  Does this mean you need a fingerprint *and* a passcode to unlock the device?  In conjunction with the picture posted beside the statement this is clear as mud.  

 

Either or...

 

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I just saw a video of Touch ID in action, and it seems to work extremely fast.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXU63NXzg5A&feature=player_embedded

 

Infuriating.  They *also* fail to actually clearly demo what's going on, or how it actually works.  

Then they do ten minutes of blah blah about the (slightly) better camera.  

 

Grrr... 

 

It's the flagship feature of the new product.  Why isn't Apple providing any information on this?  

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Infuriating.  They *also* fail to actually clearly demo what's going on, or how it actually works.  

Then they do ten minutes of blah blah about the (slightly) better camera.  

 

Grrr... 

 

It's the flagship feature of the new product.  Why isn't Apple providing any information on this?  

 

 

What are you confused about?

 

You can EITHER scan your print OR enter a passcode.

 

The only thing unclear is whether you can require BOTH be entered in settings for double security.

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

Infuriating.  They *also* fail to actually clearly demo what's going on, or how it actually works.

 

Ever stop to think that maybe it's not that simple when having to have multiple people demo on the phone at once?

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12 months for this?  Stock price is going to get crushed.  

 

Maybe, but only because the stock price is completely removed from reality. What I do know is that the iPhone will sell more than ever, continue to be the best selling phone by a huge margin, and Apple will make even more in profit.

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I can't help to say that I don't feel the magic anymore...still love my Apple products but sure would be nice to get that Tech buzz again...
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Originally Posted by TechProd1gy View Post
I can't help to say that I don't feel the magic anymore...still love my Apple products but sure would be nice to get that Tech buzz again...

 

Maybe read anything at all about the product, then.

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MacApfel, I heard none of the new features work.

I think I need to set this right: the new iPhone looks great! And if I had the money I would instantly replace my current iPhone 5. The thing is, as many here said, it would have been really interesting to see this possibly distinctive feature in action. Instead, all they said was 'it gets better with usage'. In the past Apple showed more confidence with feature introductions, touting it as great and demoing this. I would have enjoyed this at today's keynote.
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I just saw a video of Touch ID in action, and it seems to work extremely fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXU63NXzg5A&feature=player_embedded

Nice that they show the setup where it scans multiple parts to get a good scan of the finger. The overall OS runs really fast too. No matter how many core they put into competing phones, they still can't seem to achieve that level of fluidity.

Interesting comments on that video btw. 1wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Marvin View Post
Interesting comments on that video btw. 1wink.gif

 

Seriously, do the Android manufacturers have a warehouse of people in China for posting anti-Apple comments? I refuse to believe humanity is this stupid overall.

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Man, was this disappointing or what? A year, they had a year and they come up with a fingerprint sensor that is good for nothing except unlocking you phone? This is all Apple is capable of? Really?

I think this finger print sensor is a very powerful law enforcement device.  Imagine that it will record the finger print of a thief and be turned over to law enforcement upon request by the legitimate owner. 

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