Originally Posted by jungmark
Enough of this Forstall crap. If he was that great, someone would have lured him away from Apple years ago.
I'm not totally against Forstall, people make mistakes, it's just that he should have added certain features that are in iOS 7 that should have been there several years ago, and he kind of messed up with Maps. I think he was a little over his head.
I have mixed feelings about skeuomorphic design. In the audio recording industry it is commonly used as they make plug ins and apps to look just like the actual product and it gives the user, which are usually used to using the hardware version of the same product, so they can EASILY see the settings and know what it means, if the interface is too different from an actual product they still use, it confuses them. I can completely see how some people like and prefer that type of design concept. But if you are developing an app that has no real "hardware" version that you are emulating, then it might not work as well. I do like the 3D icons they have on OS X and hope they don't get rid of those. Some developers come out with some cool designs, some don't. But I can tell at a glance sometimes what version I'm using because some developers change the icon of the app for each version.
Either way, Scott is still an advisor to Apple and he still gets a paycheck, just not as big. He's still useful I think, on some level, just not in upper management. Which just means he might not be suited in that role. Some people get to upper management and now how to deal with that role and some don't. Some are better at advising and giving a different perspective to think about. I wish I was in some of the meetings in terms of direction for the product. I sometimes see some obvious things that are being overlooked. I think all Apple products should have IR built in so someone can use a remote control to control the device or the device can transform into a remote control depending on what the device is, but I still think IR is useful at some level for ALL devices.
Getting back to Scott, maybe he didn't want to leave Apple, which I don't think he did. I just think his ego got the best of him, but he's still an advisor to my knowledge. Heck, the guy is probably rich enough where he could retire if he invested his money properly if he didn't want to work for Google, Microsoft or someone else doing something similar. Maybe he's going to start his own software company.