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Not to be outdone by Apple's iPhone 5s, Samsung pledges 64-bit chips in next Galaxy phones

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After Apple announced that the A7 chip in its iPhone 5s will be the first 64-bit smartphone processor on the market, Samsung quickly revealed that its next-generation Galaxy handsets will also go 64-bit.

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Samsung co-CEO Shin Jong-kyun spoke with The Korea Times about his company's future plans, and revealed that upcoming Galaxy-branded handsets will add 64-bit processing. The company's current flagship Galaxy S4 and recently announced Galaxy Note 3 run 32-bit processors.

The Samsung executive didn't give a timetable for its 64-bit debut, but the South Korean company has historically released one new Galaxy S and one new Galaxy Note handset per year. As such, it's possible that Samsung may not have a major 64-bit smartphone on the market until 2014.

"Not in the shortest time, but yes, our next smartphones will have 64-bit processing functionality," Shin said.

When the iPhone 5s was unveiled by Apple on Tuesday, the company touted the "desktop-class" processing power of its new custom made A7 processor. The CPU includes over a billion processor, which doubles its predecessor, the A6.

The A7 is also twice as fast in raw processing power and graphics performance, and is a whopping 40 times faster than the chip found in the original iPhone. To take advantage of the 64-bit capabilities of the A7, Apple's iOS 7 mobile operating system has also been updated with a 64-bit kernel, libraries and drivers.

Critics of Samsung have contended that the company follows Apple's lead in technology rather than innovating with its own new features and capabilities. Apple agrees, and is embroiled in a number of patent infringement suits against its rival, accusing the company of copying popular products like the iPhone, iPad, and iOS platform.
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Let's face it, they need all the speed they can get to power that pig of an OS.

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Samsung issues press release stating that the next Galaxy S5 will incorporate 64bit CPU, an improve camera and a fingerprint reader. And will come in a variety of colors. -Samsung out.

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It will probably have a 64-bit processor, running an OS incapable of anything beyond 32-bit. So it will be a useless hardware spec like everything else Android. But, you know, because it's open source it will be out soon and be whizbang.
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what a surprise

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This just goes to show how things are.

Samsung adds whatever new "innovative" feature and as far as the public goes Apple couldn't care less.

Apple changes something and Samsung has to come up with a "me-too" announcement.
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Copycats!
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Samsung are an embarrassing company. I'm surprised more people in the western world buy into their garbage.
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Surprised they didn't announce a 65-bit processor... 'Cause that extra bit would make it THAT MUCH better than Apple's puny little girly-man of a 64-bit processor.
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It will probably have a 64-bit processor, running an OS incapable of anything beyond 32-bit. So it will be a useless hardware spec like everything else Android. But, you know, because it's open source it will be out soon and be whizbang.

 

Yeah I was thinking...Android I don't believe even supports 64-bit processing so whats the use? And, I don't believe there to be any kind of developer kit to make things 64-bit on Android. 

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"Released in late 2011, ARMv8 represents a fundamental change to the ARM architecture. It adds a 64-bit architecture, named "AArch64", and a new "A64" instruction set"

"ARM announced their Cortex-A53 and Cortex-A57 cores on 30 October 2012"

As Samsung uses these designs, everyone should have known since 2011 (or 30 oct 2012) that samsung would be offering a 64 bit ARM design

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Samsung issues press release stating that the next Galaxy S5 will incorporate 64bit CPU, an improve camera and a fingerprint reader. And will come in a variety of colors. -Samsung out.

Samsung's next gen I will be able to run 8 x the malware at the same time and upload your personal data to twice as many Chinese and Russian hackers as current models.
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It will probably have a 64-bit processor, running an OS incapable of anything beyond 32-bit. So it will be a useless hardware spec like everything else Android. But, you know, because it's open source it will be out soon and be whizbang.

This guy nails it. Spot on!

 

Just as Samsung introduced Galaxy S2 with dual core with Android Gingershit that supported only single-core.

 

Would be interesting how many apps are designed multicore on the Google Playstore and how many single core.

 

This just shows how Apple truly values the customer experience as a whole and refuses to engage in the stupid spec-sheet war like the others do.

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The Next Big Thing is here states Samsu.... I mean Apple.
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Just as I suspected, once again apple copied Samsung before Samsung releases a product.
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Unlike iOS, Android will get even more fragmented. They'll end up having two iterations similar to what MS had to go through with Windows 32 vs Windows 64.

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64 bit processor with a 32 bit operating system with a 2 bit user experience.  Way to go Samsung!

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For their sake, I hope this is something Samsung has been working on all along, and not something rushed to market based on an artificial deadline (e.g.: CEO sees Apple keynote, writes an email to phone dept calling for 64-bit chips in 6 months). 

 

Also, is there a benefit if App developers don't code their apps to take advantage of this? I have no doubt about Apple's ability to influence developers to code for them. However, what incentive is there to do the same for Android, if Google doesn't retool Android for 64-bit architecture? IMO, the coordination between Google, Samsung and app developers is the biggest problem here, something Apple has a lot less problem with. 

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Man, if Samsung wasn't so pathetic, these press releases would be almost as funny as something the Onion would put out.

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"Released in late 2011, ARMv8 represents a fundamental change to the ARM architecture. It adds a 64-bit architecture, named "AArch64", and a new "A64" instruction set"

"ARM announced their Cortex-A53 and Cortex-A57 cores on 30 October 2012"

As Samsung uses these designs, everyone should have known since 2011 (or 30 oct 2012) that samsung would be offering a 64 bit ARM design

 

Hahaha that's just like saying since silicon was discovered in 1824 and everybody uses this element, everyone should have known since 1824 that samsung would be offering silicon chips. 

 

Even so, why didn't they offer it since everyone knows since 2011?!

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Apple said that they need 3 things to transfer to 64-bit quickly.
First, great hardware (iPhone 5S is great 1wink.gif,
second a 64 bit OS to take advantage of great hardware (iOS 7)
And third, support of developer comunity to adopt 64-bit. (NOONE has stronger developer support than Apple)

So we will have lots of smartphones with 64 bit rushing out next year. By that time Apple will have 90% of its users on 64 bit OS (iOS 7)
And I think over 50% percent of Apps remaked for 64 bit, that will run so fast on the 5S they will literally flew out the screen.

And those android fans with 64 bit 6 to 7 inch "phones" will have to wait for the google IO maybe even to fall before the 64 bit version of android get relased, then wait another 4-9 months to get it on their phone and last but most significant, they will literally have to wait for years before most of the android apps get tuned for 64-bit. This will fragment android even more.

Transition to 64-bit is what can Apple start and finish even before competition can react, thanks to great hardware, software and developers.

So noone cares that samsung phones will got some 16 core 3 Ghz 64-bit processor (with 4GB of RAM obviously) 6 months from now when there will be already a huge installed base of tens of millions of iPhones and iPads running 64-bit code under 64-bit OS on a 64-bit hardware.
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This is getting very juvenile.

 

I hope Apple is NOT getting into the "my-screen-is-bigger-than-yours" race.

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Also, the volume future Samsung phones will go to eleven.

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Of course they do because Apple does all of the R&D for Samsung.

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Who build the A7 chip is Samesung looks so surprised and tries to sell hot air now?
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Also, from now on Samsung Executives will wear jeans, sneakers and black turtlenecks to all product announcements

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Me too, me too!
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Samsung's next gen I will be able to run 8 x the malware at the same time and upload your personal data to twice as many Chinese and Russian hackers as current models.
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running 32-bit apps on a 32-bit OS.

 

...from a 2-bit company.

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What good is 64 bit hardware without 64 bit software? I think it may take Google a while to get Android at 64 bit so this is another marketing ploy by Samsung. Why doesn't the article mention this? As Apple said others aren't even talking about it.
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Samsung's next gen I will be able to run 8 x the malware at the same time and upload your personal data to twice as many Chinese and Russian hackers as current models.

 

+1

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There is NOTHING Koreans won't copy. Samsung should be renamed Monkey See.
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Samsung's next gen I will be able to run 8 x the malware at the same time and upload your personal data to twice as many Chinese and Russian hackers as current models.

Sorry to be the one to tell you, but our own NSA far outstrips China and Russia in terms of hacking, spying and built-in backdoor access.

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If ever Google wanted to go with a Chrome OS and leave Android to wither, as some have proposed, Chrome 64 seems like a good place to do it.
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What good is 64 bit hardware without 64 bit software? I think it may take Google a while to get Android at 64 bit so this is another marketing ploy by Samsung. Why doesn't the article mention this? As Apple said others aren't even talking about it.

First, I don't disagree with you at all. But we don't know what kit kat is going to be, as far as I know, nor does Apple so while I, too, believe it, just because Apple said its true doesn't mean it is
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Competition is good. Heaven forfend the day we should see only one mobile device maker.
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Monkey see...monkey do.  There's a surprise.

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Yeah I was thinking...Android I don't believe even supports 64-bit processing so whats the use? And, I don't believe there to be any kind of developer kit to make things 64-bit on Android. 

With the RAM increases nearing 4 GBs they just about have to go 64-bit.
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Let's face it, they need all the speed they can get to power that pig of an OS.

 

I don't know why they don't buy Blackberry.  I'm no expert, but from what I've heard it's a modern OS built on a unique Unix kernel.  

At least it would give them something to build on that makes more sense than a rip-off of Java bolted onto a rip-off of Unix.  

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They better hope Kit Kat is 64bit and there is app support for it by then.  LoL Shamesung!

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