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Originally Posted by tmayes86 View Post
 

 

Read what I'm suggesting...

 

"My point is, can we stop doubling speed every year and give us an all day battery life? Similar to what they did with the MacBook Air this year."

 

I know a couple of backpackers who really like these, needed because they use their phone as their navigation gps mapper.

 

http://www.mophie.com

post #42 of 58
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Originally Posted by Dickprinter View Post

Why and how? He's both an Apple fan but feels he's not getting the battery life he should be getting getting. How does one invalidate the other? Maybe he just needs guidance or education. 

You do not need to mention you're an Apple fan. You're here, so we're pretty sure you like Apple unless you're trolling.

Also not many smart phones get 16 hrs on one charge unless it weighs like a brick.
post #43 of 58
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Originally Posted by jfc1138 View Post
 

 

I know a couple of backpackers who really like these, needed because they use their phone as their navigation gps mapper.

 

http://www.mophie.com

 

Yeah that's what I use as well.

post #44 of 58

Will our iPhone 5 battery cases work for the 5s? I know it is practically identical but wondering about the extra flash for the camera. Just wondering if the case will cover that flash or not. 

 

Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. 

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Originally Posted by tmayes86 View Post

Read what I'm suggesting...

"My point is, can we stop doubling speed every year and give us an all day battery life? Similar to what they did with the MacBook Air this year."

I don't think that's how processor upgrades work. If it were, why hasn't any other manufacturer come out with an all-day phone?

You can't simply under clock the processor and double your battery life. Igzo screens, incremental processor upgrades, software optimization etc etc will slowly increase battery life, as phones have done the past few years.

Until we get supercapacitors I don't think we will see huge leaps like you hope.
post #46 of 58
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Okay professor, so how can I get through my long travel days without my phone dying?

Let's first establish a baseline.

1) Charge your phone to 100%, shut it down, restart, turn Airplane mode, put the phone down, and come back in a couple of hours, the longer it sits there the more accurate the measurement will be, easiest is probably to do this overnight. 

 

2) Next test is to do the same but switch on WiFi (you can turn on WiFi individually in Airplane mode.

 

3) Do the same as 1) but go out of Airplane mode but keep Wifi shutdown, and also look under General -> Usage -> Cellular Usage what the count is there and what it is at the end of the experiment.

 

With a network on, there is obviously some randomness as you might receive a lot of emails one hour but not the next. There are more tests one can do, with Bluetooth, notifications, iCloud, Location services, and so on, or doing 3) in different locations. In particular location services can be enabled app by app which can give a lot granularity. GPS is really sucking the battery dry fast, I can drain my battery within a couple of hours if I want to, in particular if the GPS signal is weak (eg, inside a car). 

 

The point of this is to isolate the biggest battery eaters, and hopefully not using some of them can be accomplished with only a small loss in overall phone functionality. But if test 1) doesn't match the quoted standby time something is amiss (extrapolate, ie, in 2.5 h should go down only 1%, but that is not very accurate, 99.4% can round down to 99% and 98.5% can round up to 99%, but doing that overnight should give some usable results). And travelling is tough, no doubt, there is simply way to much network switching. But sometimes, only extra battery cases or chargers will get you

 

My iPhone 5 (which is almost a year old has gone through my day and still has 73% (ok, the day is not fully over). Usage was limited to  2.5 h of podcasts, including download them, an hour of radio streaming and a few RSS readers refreshing and reading. But only Apple's own 'Cell Network Search', 'Diagnostics & Usage' and 'Genius for Apps' have accessed location services.


Edited by noirdesir - 9/12/13 at 4:15pm
post #47 of 58
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Originally Posted by jungmark View Post


You do not need to mention you're an Apple fan. You're here, so we're pretty sure you like Apple unless you're trolling.

Also not many smart phones get 16 hrs on one charge unless it weighs like a brick.

 

That's just it, if a post isn't praising an Apple device or someone voices an issue about their PERSONAL experience, then he thinks they're trolling. No constructive help or suggestions, just "shut up and go away". If he is intolerant of it then he should just go away.

 

Edit: He obviously has no kids. With a 3 year old asking "Why, Daddy" 50 times a day, he'd tell him/her to "go away" before long.

Why does Apple bashing and trolling make people feel so good?

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post #48 of 58
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Originally Posted by ScartArt View Post
 

4S and 5 are both really poor for battery life, my old 4 was much better. The biggest benefit for Apple producing a bigger screened iPhone would be so they can fit in a larger battery. Having a phone that can last all day shouldn't be too much to ask.

 

Battery ratings stayed the same or have gone:

- 3G to 3GS: up

- 3GS to 4: up

- 4 to 4S: down (except for the ones using 3G which went up, likely the 3G chips got better but the A5 used more juice than the A4)

- 4S to 5: up

- 5 to 5S: up

 

The problem likely is that the newer OSes simply can do more and more in the background (eg, iCloud), app usage might also have gone up.

post #49 of 58
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Originally Posted by Dickprinter View Post

That's just it, if a post isn't praising an Apple device or someone voices an issue about their PERSONAL experience, then he thinks they're trolling. No constructive help or suggestions, just "shut up and go away". If he is intolerant of it then he should just go away.

Edit: He obviously has no kids. With a 3 year old asking "Why, Daddy" 50 times a day, he'd tell him/her to "go away" before long.

There's the thing though, you can say I have an issue with my iPhone/Mac/whatever but as soon as you say "big Apple fan here" or list your Apple purchases, we get skeptical. Have you ever heard sports fans saying "been a fan since 1980 and have all their season highlights on DVD. "

Oh you can have an opinion just as long as you don't predict doom because you don't see the value is something.
post #50 of 58
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My 4S lasts a couple of days with moderate use, never had issues at all.

 

All my iPhones (3G, 4, 5) have on maybe 99.5% of all days lasted through the day. Only when I travel or use the GPS more than just few times or something runs amok on the phone (it gets warm then and I restart it and the problem is solved), can things get tight, but I still last it through the day by just taking radical steps like airplane mode or a complete shutdown. One of the days when it did die was a few months back when it died about 10 minutes before I went to bed. I have strong WiFi at home and at work, don't know if that helps.

 

Right now mine is at 71% and I'm about to go to bed.

post #51 of 58
I find the power usage of my 4S to be all over the place. the other night I went to bed (around 11ish) at 75% so I didn't bother plugging it in. The alarm didn't go off at 6.30 as it was dead.

I have turned off everything and killed it between 8am and 2pm, using gps and touristing can be a hog.

Even tho some love to say apps dont consume power in the background, one of the most consistent powerhogs is iBooks. if I leave it in the background, I pretty much guarantee that my battery will disappear.

Hoping that the 5S will improving having to charge every afternoon (its on the charger now at 4pm - only listened to a bit of music all day, no real browsing).

I would be fine with a slightly thicker heavier phone if it gave me more battery life.
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post #52 of 58
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I find the power usage of my 4S to be all over the place. the other night I went to bed (around 11ish) at 75% so I didn't bother plugging it in. The alarm didn't go off at 6.30 as it was dead.

I have turned off everything and killed it between 8am and 2pm, using gps and touristing can be a hog.

Even tho some love to say apps dont consume power in the background, one of the most consistent powerhogs is iBooks. if I leave it in the background, I pretty much guarantee that my battery will disappear.

Hoping that the 5S will improving having to charge every afternoon (its on the charger now at 4pm - only listened to a bit of music all day, no real browsing).

I would be fine with a slightly thicker heavier phone if it gave me more battery life.

That is strange. My 4S doesn't have that problem. I go to bed with 30% and it may drop to 20% but never had it drop to 0%. Something is happening. Perhaps GPS is still sucking the life out if it. Do you have any geo fencing reminders?
post #53 of 58
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That is strange. My 4S doesn't have that problem. I go to bed with 30% and it may drop to 20% but never had it drop to 0%. Something is happening. Perhaps GPS is still sucking the life out if it. Do you have any geo fencing reminders?

 

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That is strange. My 4S doesn't have that problem. I go to bed with 30% and it may drop to 20% but never had it drop to 0%. Something is happening. Perhaps GPS is still sucking the life out if it. Do you have any geo fencing reminders?

 

Yep, monitoring location service access is a key step in understanding power use (with geo fencing using location services). Same applies for any network usage. And things can crash in the background without any clear indication only that the device gets warm. 

post #54 of 58
"Now with iOS 7, I'm getting 3-4 hours of battery life. Awful."

Anyone spot the catch in the rye?
post #55 of 58
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Originally Posted by AndrewofArabia View Post

Lies. Straight up lies. I love Apple, but I've found that their battery claims with iPhone 5 to be total BS. Everyone I know with an iPhone 5 complains about how it bleeds battery life even when its in sleep mode, even with auto brightness off, and with brightness at 40%. Now with iOS 7, I'm getting 3-4 hours of battery life. Awful.

 

 

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Originally Posted by ScartArt View Post
 

4S and 5 are both really poor for battery life, my old 4 was much better. The biggest benefit for Apple producing a bigger screened iPhone would be so they can fit in a larger battery. Having a phone that can last all day shouldn't be too much to ask.

 

I don't share your experience at all. And my experience spans dozens of iPhone 5 units we deploy at work. I don't want to impugn anyone's integrity. But 3-4 hrs? I flat out refuse to believe it.

post #56 of 58

my son has had his 4s for nealy one year he put the charger in and it did start to charge but now it wont charge at all?

post #57 of 58
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my son has had his 4s for nealy one year he put the charger in and it did start to charge but now it wont charge at all?

"Nearly one year" means it's near the end of the warranty: best to get it looked at right away as a failure to hold a charge in that short a time is an indication something is wrong: either the charger or cable (try another one of each?) or the unit itself. Does it charge and hold a charge when connected to the computer he syncs it to? If so then the charger is bad.

post #58 of 58
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my son has had his 4s for nealy one year he put the charger in and it did start to charge but now it wont charge at all?

 

 
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"Nearly one year" means it's near the end of the warranty: best to get it looked at right away as a failure to hold a charge in that short a time is an indication something is wrong: either the charger or cable (try another one of each?) or the unit itself. Does it charge and hold a charge when connected to the computer he syncs it to? If so then the charger is bad.

My daughter's iP4 (almost 3.5 years old) just did the same thing. Upgraded to iOS7 and it was working fine. Took a full charge overnight, plugged it again after she got home from school (she's a power user) and it wouldn't charge. No charging beep, nothing. I told her to run it down to 0% and try again but now when she plugs in to charge she gets the empty battery on the screen and nothing else.  Last time I checked her battery health with an app it reported 65% charge capacity. It easily has over 1700 charge cycles on it. There was no indication the battery was about to fail and the diminished capacity is totally expected given the amount of charges. Does a battery go that quickly with no warning?

 

I have an iPod mini that has been charged at least 2000 times and it still gives me 3 hours of tune playback.....and that sucker has been through a FULL clothes washer cycle!!!! A testament to Apple design and build quality. 

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