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Apple to commence iPhone 5s advance reservations in China on Sept. 17th

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While most of the world will have to wait in line to purchase an iPhone 5s on launch day, consumers in Hong Kong and mainland China can take advantage of an advance reservations system beginning Sept. 17.

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The reservations scheme was first used by Apple following the iPhone 4's Chinese launch in an effort to control crowds at the company's retail stores and curb the burgeoning gray market resale industry, in which scalpers take advantage of launch scarcity to resell devices for significant premiums. The system has been deployed for every major Apple product launch since, including the iPhone 4S, iPad Mini, and iPhone 5.

Although the system ? in which customers choose their device, provide identification information, and then complete the purchase in-store at a designated time ? is not new, its use for the iPhone 5s launch is noteworthy for another reason: with preorders for Apple's flagship smartphone a non-starter anywhere else in the world due to suspected constraints on initial inventory, China is the only place consumers can ensure they receive a device on launch day.

Those wishing to reserve an iPhone 5s in mainland China or Hong Kong can do so via Apple's online store beginning Sept. 17, with pick-ups commencing at 8 a.m. local time on Sept. 20.

Apple is expected to move up to 35 million more iPhones in 2014 due to new carrier partnerships in Asia, with a significant percentage of those additional sales generated in China thanks to Apple's anticipated partnership with China Mobile. The state-owned wireless carrier is the largest in the world, with more than 740 million subscribers.
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Cool. Hope they can bring it to the US.

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Do I understand this correctly, the USA has to wait behind the Chinese? Apple, this is not fair. So China will buy up all the inventory and we in the good ole USA will wait behind the Chinese and get our 5s iPhones in a month or more? Time to sell my Apple Stock!
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Do I understand this correctly, the USA has to wait behind the Chinese? Apple, this is not fair. So China will buy up all the inventory and we in the good ole USA will wait behind the Chinese and get our 5s iPhones in a month or more? Time to sell my Apple Stock!

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This is so funny. All of the analyst believe that Apple can't sell 5C in China because of the price.

What does Apple do? But sell the 5S first and prove them ALL wrong!!!
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post #6 of 39

Apple obviously knows something that we don't. I think they are betting huge with 5C and 5S in the Chinese market!

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I guess Apple thinks it knows where its bread is 'going to be' buttered.

Which sort of segways to this:

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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

Cool. Hope they can bring it to the US.

 

I doubt it. This was obviously implemented because of the huge problem with those Chinese scalpers.

 

The Chinese scalpers are annoying enough in the USA (I still get mad when thinking about me standing in line for the iPad 2 launch, and those scumbag scalpers), but the problem is apparently far worse in China.

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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post

What does Apple do? But sell the 5S first and prove them ALL wrong!!!

 

Not quite, Chinese people have already started pre-ordering their 5c's.

 

Both the 5c and 5s will be available on the same day, 9/20, in China.

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Do I understand this correctly, the USA has to wait behind the Chinese? Apple, this is not fair. So China will buy up all the inventory and we in the good ole USA will wait behind the Chinese and get our 5s iPhones in a month or more? Time to sell my Apple Stock!

 

NSIS

 

I think it's because they have had issues with rioting at iPhone launches in the past in China. This way they can control access to the stores.

post #11 of 39
There is well over 100 million new smart phone customers for either the 5c or 5s in China alone, never mind India and Japan.

Apple has all the information months ago for this demand.
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I think China reservations for the 5S before anybody else it seems, is symbolic for Apple of the importance of the Chinese market. Also the 5S is Apple's most expensive iPhone, so the amount of initial orders from China won't be high enough to cause delays in launching the 5S elsewhere in the world, as it would say - in the States where more people can afford this premium model...maybe? Or it might just be to avoid scalping after all.
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Do I understand this correctly, the USA has to wait behind the Chinese? Apple, this is not fair. So China will buy up all the inventory and we in the good ole USA will wait behind the Chinese and get our 5s iPhones in a month or more? Time to sell my Apple Stock!

LOL do you even have apple stock you short seller.

 

I love this move as I hate all those scalpers and ppl waiting in line/store will be true users.

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Slightly off topic but related: anyone know what's become of all those people who were waiting in line outside the 5th Ave store in NYC days before the event on the 10th? Have they gone home yet? Or are some of them really waiting till the 20th...
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I agree they have people standing in line with all cash buying them up ! last time i waited in line on the fifth ave store in manhattan and apple employees said they were all sold out and I complained about them buying them all up and they said it was nothing they can do about it and I said i'm in contract and I can't get a phone is ridicules So they pulled me aside and said to come back when they call me ! and they did.  

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I guess Apple thinks it knows where its bread is 'going to be' buttered.

Which sort of segways to this:

http://www.longlongtimeago.com/llta_fables_monkeycroc.html

I think you mean segues .... 1biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post

This is so funny. All of the analyst believe that Apple can't sell 5C in China because of the price.

What does Apple do? But sell the 5S first and prove them ALL wrong!!!

That is what they should have done here. And had a similar reservation system.
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post

There is well over 100 million new smart phone customers for either the 5c or 5s in China alone, never mind India and Japan.

Apple has all the information months ago for this demand.

I prefer to make ignorant assumptions about foreign markets from the hubris and convenience of my sofa. /s

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Do I understand this correctly, the USA has to wait behind the Chinese? Apple, this is not fair. So China will buy up all the inventory and we in the good ole USA will wait behind the Chinese and get our 5s iPhones in a month or more? Time to sell my Apple Stock!
/s

Plus I believe the China phones will be completely different SKUs.
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I think China reservations for the 5S before anybody else it seems, is symbolic for Apple of the importance of the Chinese market.
Bingo.
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post #20 of 39
China?! Hey thanks, Tim. Way to show how much you value consumers in your own country.
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One thing I find odd about AT&T is that you pay the same monthly fee regardless if you are on contract or not. The upside to iPhone though is that since you can sell a one year old phone for more than what it costs to put a down payment on a new iPhone, even the 64 GB, it only makes sense to upgrade every year. You're paying the same fee every year anyway, why not have the latest iPhone? It is basically a one time investment to always have the latest kit.

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Originally Posted by rhbellmor View Post

Do I understand this correctly, the USA has to wait behind the Chinese? Apple, this is not fair. So China will buy up all the inventory and we in the good ole USA will wait behind the Chinese and get our 5s iPhones in a month or more? Time to sell my Apple Stock!

Its a reservation system, not exactly preorder, you don't remember the chaos in China with the egg throwing from scalpers? The earlier date is probably to check demand so they have time to move the goods around. Seriously doubt Apple will let any one country have all their iPhones, that's saying Apple is not in control of their own inventory.

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/s

Plus I believe the China phones will be completely different SKUs.
Bingo.

Yeah, even the box has Chinese writing all over it.
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I am concerned, to be honest.

Almost 20h after the pre-orders opened, the iPhone 5C -- in all five colors, for all carriers, and in all memory options -- is still available for delivery on 09/20!?

Has this ever happened before? Can this be right?

Don't they usually sell out in less than one hour? 

I worry....

Don't worry, they can make 10s of millions per day and have 6 full days to be cranking these puppies out like crazy. Plus, in case you missed it, they are taking pre-orders in 100 countries.

A few days from now the Pacific will be darkened by the fleets of FedX aircraft flying out of China. There will be so much mass moving in one direction that it will spin up the Earth on its axis.

Meanwhile in Texas, Googlrola is churning out 14.2k MotoX phones per day... Everyone say, "Ooooh!"
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That is what they should have done here. And had a similar reservation system.

Apple determined that offering pre-orders for both the 5c and 5s at the same time would overload the internets and cause a blackout in the western USA. Apple is once again protecting you from yourself. All bow to the omniscience of Tim while intoning, "Jooooooooooooooobbbbs."
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post #26 of 39
All that bullcrap about "building machines in America" and "Designed in California". Then this, speaking on principle. Man we need Steve back.
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Sorry, Apple, but this is a bunch of horse excrement!

 

Mark

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Sorry, Apple, but this is a bunch of horse excrement!

Sorry Mark, but only Microsoft makes products in brown.
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Originally Posted by Mark Booth View Post
Sorry, Apple, but this is a bunch of horse excrement!

 

How do you say, "Get the eff over it," in Chinese? 

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How do you say, "Get the eff over it," in Chinese? 

Yea - I mean really, they released the iP 3 was it, here in NZ first.
Not a squeak about that.
post #31 of 39
Must be some kinda of deal Apple made with the biggest telco in the world. One way to get $$$$$$$ fast with the masses.

Trying to please the Chinese audience.........but it's ok. I can wait.
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lol - You should be first in line CM !

Calls are free from there I hear, no sim no contract 1smoking.gif
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Must be some kinda of deal Apple made with the biggest telco in the world. One way to get $$$$$$$ fast with the masses.

Trying to please the Chinese audience.........but it's ok. I can wait.

Most original theory so far...plausible.

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lol - You should be first in line CM !

Calls are free from there I hear, no sim no contract 1smoking.gif

 

Lol.......CM is just a nick. It's fun to have a nick which people find it amusing. 

 

No thanks. I prefer in the country I stay in. I rather die than stay in a country like that.......

 

Plus I hate queues. You will be surprise people over there have started lining up..........to be first in line......to be the FIRST IN THE WORLD to get their hands on the first official 5s.

 

I will wait for it to cool down before signing with my telco.

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I prefer to make ignorant assumptions about foreign markets from the hubris and convenience of my sofa. /s

Some called it educated guessing especially those clever people at Wall Street.
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All that bullcrap about "building machines in America" and "Designed in California". Then this, speaking on principle. Man we need Steve back.

Remember how depressed Steve was over the reception given to the iPad from the geek press and the geek Internet echo chamber? It's in the biography.

I would never suggest what Apple would do if he were still around, but maybe Apple has a better chance of getting a good reception for the new phones from their soon-to-be biggest market, China.

Good thing I'm not running Apple. I'd punish the Americans with shortages for months for being such Samsung suckers.
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Remember how depressed Steve was over the reception given to the iPad from the geek press and the geek Internet echo chamber? It's in the biography.

I would never suggest what Apple would do if he were still around, but maybe Apple has a better chance of getting a good reception for the new phones from their soon-to-be biggest market, China.

Good thing I'm not running Apple. I'd punish the Americans with shortages for months for being such Samsung suckers.

I think this pre-order business doesn't necessarily mean that on Sept 20, Americans won't have any iPhone 5s' to buy. I think Apple has already created an initial allocation for each launch country, pre-order system or not. Which is why I think Apple ought to open preorders for every launch country. Don't make people stand in line.

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post #38 of 39

More facts and less sensationalisation please:

 

The Chinese and US iPhone 5s (and 5c) do not share the same cellular hardware, US stock can not be diverted to China on a whim, it has to be manufactured specifically for the market, meaning that at least the first three weeks of iPhone 5s' are already pre-defined into allocated regions.

 

The China bound 5s model number is A1530, which is only shared with: Australia & New Zealand, HK, Korea and Singapore. Only those countries would be at risk of a last-minute stock diversion to China, should China have a larger than expected demand.

 

The US 5s model number is A1533 (For AT&T, T-Mobile & Verizon) A1453 (For Sprint). Only shared with Canada, Puerto Rico, and in the case of the A1453 also Japan.

 

The reservation system for China only serves the purpose of preventing predatory reselling. It does not play into their week-0 stock allocation, and is stock limited (otherwise the queuers would become disorderly.)

post #39 of 39
Obviously people in china are probably more willing for the 5C so this might not get very many preorders for 5S
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