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Where are they likely to go? Well, a larger iPhone is guaranteed I'd submit. A larger iPad? That's a different matter. I've yet to be convinced on that one.

Then there are unsexy sounding areas like watches and TVs: I think watches and TVs aren't going away any time soon and both are areas of innovation ripe for tapping. Besides Kuro owners, no one loves their TV. That's a problem. TVs are way too complex and the average living room has too many remotes (more than one is too many) or one of those ghastly, ghastly universal remotes that needed programming. Problems that can only be solved by creating a great, simple, sexy, integrated television, which Apple could do. It's the way forward and ultimately the only way I see this space going. You think the console wars are tough? The AIO TV wars will be a blood bath.

My own personal view on the iWatch is it actually has to be a music player first and formost (something Apple may or may not realise). And to do that one of the bigger innovations we need in that space are sexy, wireless Apple EarPods of some kind that charge easily and probably magnetically. I'm thinking wireless in-ear headphones, like those ones that don't exist.

Now, getting back to what I think Apple 'should' do? I believe they should make a decent wireless light bulb (I'm deadly serious) that can be set up and connected to your network by simply turning it on for the first time and tapping your iPhone against it, whereby you'd receive an on-screen success notification, and from that point on iOS would take care of the rest via the built in Apple designed bulb management app that is easily accessible via Control Centre. I'm talking no additional hardware required besides the bulb and your iPhone; no bridging hardware, and for the love of God no ridiculous gimmicks or colour light options. You don't just add wireless to your bulb to make it a complicated, gimmick-ridden mess. You add wireless to your bulb to help simplify your life. Something nowhere near achieved at this point.
Edited by Ireland - 1/14/14 at 5:08pm
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What is wrong with microsoft? Well, they got too cosy. They had a good product for its time and lost site of the emerging competition, including Apple, who's ideas they copied and developed in the first place. Apple may well go the same way. The very people who have given it the lead it has are beginning to look cosy and establishment. Jonny Ives, even Cook. Life in technology is short and fast moving.

 

I look at my apple computers. The old ones now obsolete, sit on shelves gathering dust. Operating systems now inoperable. How long ago was that? My latest iMac way outshines its predecessor in terms of performance by miles. My iPad2 is so yesterday. My  iPhone 5 will probably have to be replaced next year by a more powerful model.

 

There is no real competition in the desk top area yet. There will always be a market if decreasing, for desk tops in specialist areas, but laptops and iPads are already taking over in day to day usage. What about a virtual desktop?

 

Minimalism is a fashion trend and fashions go out of fashion, although I love the sleek lines of my current Apple kit. It is also so 'Western'.  World-wide, what is 'in' today is 'out' tomorrow and the world wide view is rapidly taking over both technologically and stylistically.

 

The latest Google moves look on the surface, odd, But there could be method in their actions. It suggests that they are thinking more ahead than Apple. whether it's the right or wrong way remains to be seen. At least it is indicative of an understanding that future technology will be developed in response to some know some unknown future needs will be in may ways radically different from todays.

 

One could see the Apple 'spaceship' being like an old western town, besieged, not by native indians but by more flexible companies with more radical ideas, technologies and products than their narrow, ageing stuff. Remember Microsoft?

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Apple is starting an experiment OS iOS built in the car. Then an integration into the Maps apps so you can track/ disable your stolen car.

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What is wrong with microsoft? Well, they got too cosy. They had a good product for its time and lost site of the emerging competition, including Apple, who's ideas they copied and developed in the first place. Apple may well go the same way. The very people who have given it the lead it has are beginning to look cosy and establishment. Jonny Ives, even Cook. Life in technology is short and fast moving.
The last word I'd use to describe Apple is "cosy". To put it simply everything hot on the market right now is a copy of something Apple brought to the market new.

Now the question is do they need to debut something new again? Well that is a certainty but lets not be in a rush here, iPad really hasn't been with us that long. Further new isn't always about hardware, Apple is making great strides with software that are at times understated or not acknowledged by the community.
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I look at my apple computers. The old ones now obsolete, sit on shelves gathering dust.
Yeah so what, my old Commodore, Heathkit, and various Linux builds have all passed on. Of course I don't leave the dead and dying on the shelf, that is a waste of space.
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Operating systems now inoperable. How long ago was that? My latest iMac way outshines its predecessor in terms of performance by miles. My iPad2 is so yesterday.
You are shooting your credibility here if you are still on an iPad2.
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My  iPhone 5 will probably have to be replaced next year by a more powerful model.
Only if you really want to.
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There is no real competition in the desk top area yet. There will always be a market if decreasing, for desk tops in specialist areas, but laptops and iPads are already taking over in day to day usage. What about a virtual desktop?

Minimalism is a fashion trend and fashions go out of fashion, although I love the sleek lines of my current Apple kit. It is also so 'Western'.  World-wide, what is 'in' today is 'out' tomorrow and the world wide view is rapidly taking over both technologically and stylistically.
Having emotional issues are we? Frankly what is "in" or "out" is a personal thing. If you follow herds than you are subject to the whims of herd mentality.
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The latest Google moves look on the surface, odd, But there could be method in their actions. It suggests that they are thinking more ahead than Apple. whether it's the right or wrong way remains to be seen. At least it is indicative of an understanding that future technology will be developed in response to some know some unknown future needs will be in may ways radically different from todays.
Apple has never been public about future technologies, so to compare the two companies is ridiculous. Honestly how can you really know if Apple is thinking ahead if it is there policy to never discuss what is happening in R&D.
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One could see the Apple 'spaceship' being like an old western town, besieged, not by native indians but by more flexible companies with more radical ideas, technologies and products than their narrow, ageing stuff. Remember Microsoft?

Of course other companies are going to go after Apple, they after all are there to get a piece of the pie. However being successful is a whole different story. You probably aren't old enough to realize this but there where literally hundreds of computer companies trying to get a piece of the pie before IBM delivered the PC. Almost everyone of those companies are gone now except for Apple. Even IBM left the PC market long ago.
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The last word I'd use to describe Apple is "cosy". To put it simply everything hot on the market right now is a copy of something Apple brought to the market new.

Is that really true? I had a smartphone before the iPhone (Ah Windows Mobile 5, how I am glad you are gone). I worked with tablets before the iPad (stock control in a warehouse, security audits in secure buildings). I had an Archos mp3 player before the ipod.

 

 

Apple certainly brought new life into the market, but it's not really fair to say they brought everything new. Apple has always taken the ideas existing out there and refined them brutally until what's left is as sleek and simple as possible.

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Of course it is really true, I wouldn't have said it otherwise.
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Is that really true? I had a smartphone before the iPhone (Ah Windows Mobile 5, how I am glad you are gone).
You didn't have a smart phone running UNIX. Comparing Windows Mobile 5 to a smart phone as embodied in the iPhone makes about as much sense as comparing a 1930's phone to a cell phone of any type.
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I worked with tablets before the iPad (stock control in a warehouse, security audits in secure buildings).
Yep I've seen such also but again that is like comparing a Commodore Vic 20 to a Mac Pro. The idea of tablets has been around in movies and television well before those warehouse machine. What Apple did is realize a viable system that people actually want to use instead of drop at the earliest possible moment for something more useful.
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I had an Archos mp3 player before the ipod.
But who delivered products the mass market wanted?
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Apple certainly brought new life into the market, but it's not really fair to say they brought everything new.
In many cases it is completely fair. When iPad arrived it was effectively a device completely new to the market. It was so functional that it effectively displaced many of those task specific units. It is the first tablet people would buy with their own hard earned cash.
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Apple has always taken the ideas existing out there and refined them brutally until what's left is as sleek and simple as possible.
I don't buy that either. Previous to iPhone you had at best a very narrow idea of what a smart phone could be. Honestly if the ideas embodied in the iPhone existed before its debut why was it seen as ground breaking and why have so many tried to copy it afterward? IPhone is an example of a completely new approach to a cell phone.

If you go back to earlier years both the Apple 2 and the Mac/Lisa where very unique for their times. Sure the idea of a Windowed interface originated at Xerox but that is a very small component of the effort and innovation put into the Mac concept.
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 Of course it is really true, I wouldn't have said it otherwise.
You didn't have a smart phone running UNIX. Comparing Windows Mobile 5 to a smart phone as embodied in the iPhone makes about as much sense as comparing a 1930's phone to a cell phone of any type.

That's a bit ridiculous. It had a full screen (resistive, not capacitive). A full (if poor) web browser. It supported applications and accessories. The iPhone was way way better for sure, but it wasn't 'entirely new'.

 

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 Yep I've seen such also but again that is like comparing a Commodore Vic 20 to a Mac Pro. The idea of tablets has been around in movies and television well before those warehouse machine. What Apple did is realize a viable system that people actually want to use instead of drop at the earliest possible moment for something more useful.

Yeah I don't deny Apple's products were superior. I just take issue with you saying 'entirely new'.

 

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 Honestly if the ideas embodied in the iPhone existed before its debut why was it seen as ground breaking and why have so many tried to copy it afterward? IPhone is an example of a completely new approach to a cell phone.

  It really isn't, this is just hyperbole. The original iPhone couldn't even run local apps. It was very much a stripped down but radically simplified and 'smoothified' version of the same concepts.

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