C is for Crap it try to make you believe aluminum is less superior than plastic
C is for.... (drolling and thinking anything begins with C)
the old iPhones were made with plastic. Cheap means cheap.
That’s because those accounts don’t post here anymore.
C is for FUD; cut it out.
Originally Posted by Marvin
Originally Posted by Marvin
Great points. I'd much rather have WiFi-ac than the fingerprint sensor. WiFi-ac would be something I would use all the time (at least when connected to a WiFi-ac router). The fingerprint sensor, meh, I could have waited another year or two for that, and probably not something I will use very often.
And considering how many music creation apps are now available I agree that it's disappointing that 24-bit audio DACs aren't part of the 5S equation. I can understand that 24-bit audio DACs are a more specialized feature that would only be appreciated by a small subset of customers, but WiFi-ac is something that every customer could potentially benefit from on a daily basis.
bad analogy. Apple can't produce enough phones to meet demand during every single iPhone release since 2008. Sorry, Apple has no rotten loaf of meat in the refrigerator for almost a decade. They sell out everything.
You will always give up customers no matter what price you set. Even at $400 you are giving a huge number of users the shaft. Bottom line is Apple is focused on the premium market.
Why is it so bad for people to expect something of any company, even if their expectation is unrealistic?
Huh. Go figure. I was taken to task the other day for saying that Apple's persona is that of a premium brand. Two or three members went after me for even suggesting that Apple is viewed as a premium brand. Nobody chimed in to say otherwise.
Before that, T. Cook said is was "religious" for many things, but not the dividends. Not sure that even S. Jobs could have hold
back 145 billions$ from the shareholders.
MacBook Air isn't a budget model? Mac Mini isn't a budget model? iPad mini? iPod nano? Shall I go on?
Apple is occupying as many categories as they can in electronics and computing. It's smart. People worried that the MacBook Air would cannibalize the sales of the MacBook Pro. It did. But that doesn't mean that Apple is making less money, it means they're selling more products. Apple offering to fill different needs at different price points means that sure, some people will buy a 5C who would have gotten a 5S, but some people will buy a 5C who would have gotten a cheaper, subsidized smartphone.
I understand you wanting to have Apple be associated only with the highest quality products and are concerned that this will be a step backwards in brand image for them, but I think they did a nice job with them—I don't think they look cheap, and am told they don't feel cheap either.
And just for the record, "Cookie cookie cookie starts with C."
You can buy a Dell Inspiron laptop from Amazon for $300. Or a Sansa MP3 player for 30 bucks. Those are what most people take to be budget models. Apple's product lineup, like any other manufacturer, has a bottom end, but that doesn't mean that viewed from the perspective of the entire market, that bottom end is automatically a budget model.
For branding reasons, companies put a floor on their price range. In the U.S. you can't get cheaper than a 1-series with BMW, but that car is certainly not a budget model. Fact is, BMW sells cars cheaper than the 1-series, but they go by the MINI brand name and has a totally separate dealer network. And even the MINI is still not a budget model.
From the Apple Corporate Governance Guidelines:
I. The Role of the Board of Directors
The Board oversees the Chief Executive Officer (the “CEO”) and other senior management in the competent and ethical operation of the Corporation on a day-to-day basis and assures that the long- term interests of the shareholders are being served. To satisfy its duties, directors are expected to take a proactive, focused approach to their position, and set standards to ensure that the Corporation is committed to business success through the maintenance of high standards of responsibility and ethics.
If the board would just remove that bit about the "long-term interests of the shareholders" then they and Cook could do what they want, and not worry about what the street or shareholders think. And everyone would all still make money. Every publicly traded company should remove any verbiage that leaves them beholden to shareholders. Keeps to much of a stranglehold on corporations - particularly in this Internet-charged era of insane stock pundits and raiders like Carl Icahn.
Here's the problem ... what does the plastic case get them?
They had to redesign a phone that people are going to put in a case anyway. So the whole color thing is ridiculous. The very fact Apple is selling a case for a phone that is being marketed based on its case color is ridiculous. If it were the bezel that was colored then maybe there would some rationale here for what they did. But it's not. Why not just keep making the previous year model and release a brand new case design every year? The net result would be the same and wouldn't require complete retooling.
I mean aren't they going to have to redesign the 5c at least every other year to continue to make it compelling? How long can they keep the same case design before the public starts looking elsewhere? So end the end, what does it actually save them, if they have to continue to support two phone designs at once, rather than a single design to gets downgraded over time?
Is it to keep the flagship phone separate and unique? In other words, to keep the number 2 model different from the number one? If so, will that actually work?
I get what you're saying but it's a totally different market, especially considering that 3rd party developers are involved. Apple sells millions of their products while BMW, Rolex, and Ducati are nowhere near that.
Consider that the iPhone5 most likely has a BOM under $200. Apple could honestly sell the 5C (which most likely cost even less than the 5 to make) for $450 and still have a grossly huge profit margin. Also, there something psychological with going under $500 in a person's mind. They begin to see the product not as cheap, or overly expensive, but closer to a mid tier product.